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Re: Realistic vaccine date- end of 2021?
« Reply #620 on: January 20, 2021, 02:38:08 PM »
More people have gotten the second dose in Israel then those who have gotten the first dose in OH - great job Dewine.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/after-record-infections-record-vaccines-israel-gives-200000-shots-in-past-day/

Ohio 456k (there is a delay in reporting Today's numbers). https://coronavirus.ohio.gov/wps/portal/gov/covid-19/dashboards/covid-19-vaccine/covid-19-vaccination-dashboard
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Re: Realistic vaccine date- end of 2021?
« Reply #621 on: January 20, 2021, 03:16:04 PM »
More people have gotten the second dose in Israel then those who have gotten the first dose in OH - great job Dewine.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/after-record-infections-record-vaccines-israel-gives-200000-shots-in-past-day/

Ohio 456k (there is a delay in reporting Today's numbers). https://coronavirus.ohio.gov/wps/portal/gov/covid-19/dashboards/covid-19-vaccine/covid-19-vaccination-dashboard

Israel effectively has as much supply as they can administer from Pfizer, can't say the same for OH. If OH had that things might (or might not) look different.
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Re: Realistic vaccine date- end of 2021?
« Reply #622 on: January 20, 2021, 04:08:53 PM »
Israel effectively has as much supply as they can administer from Pfizer, can't say the same for OH. If OH had that things might (or might not) look different.
Ohio has 968,250 doses and has given less than 50% of what they have - inexcusable. https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/covid-vaccine-tracker-global-distribution/

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Re: Realistic vaccine date- end of 2021?
« Reply #623 on: January 20, 2021, 04:21:39 PM »
Ohio has 968,250 doses and has given less than 50% of what they have - inexcusable. https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/covid-vaccine-tracker-global-distribution/
This has nothing to do with Israel giving 2.7 million doses.
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Re: Realistic vaccine date- end of 2021?
« Reply #624 on: January 20, 2021, 04:22:23 PM »
This has nothing to do with Israel giving 2.7 million doses.

Correct. They’re polar opposites and the contrast couldn’t be starker.
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Re: Realistic vaccine date- end of 2021?
« Reply #625 on: January 20, 2021, 04:26:30 PM »
This has nothing to do with Israel giving 2.7 million doses.
It has to do with that in Israel there is a sense of urgency to get things done and not waste doses or time, this even manifests itself in the creativity in acquiring enough doses, and here there is no sense of urgency. there has not been a significant uptick in doses over the last while.

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Re: Realistic vaccine date- end of 2021?
« Reply #626 on: January 20, 2021, 04:27:10 PM »
Correct. They’re polar opposites and the contrast couldn’t be starker.
Not sure why it had to be that way if it was managed properly.

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Re: Realistic vaccine date- end of 2021?
« Reply #627 on: January 20, 2021, 04:28:07 PM »
Not sure why it had to be that way if it was managed properly.

Big if.
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Re: Realistic vaccine date- end of 2021?
« Reply #628 on: January 20, 2021, 04:33:13 PM »
Big if.
That is what I am complaining about though the speed in getting an effective vaccine was amazing, the continued failure in managing the distribution from the top down is mind boggling - with time to prepare and now time to correct initial failures. I hope the Biden team does a better job though I am not very optimistic.

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Re: Realistic vaccine date- end of 2021?
« Reply #629 on: January 20, 2021, 04:37:05 PM »
That is what I am complaining about though the speed in getting an effective vaccine was amazing, the continued failure in managing the distribution from the top down is mind boggling - with time to prepare and now time to correct initial failures. I hope the Biden team does a better job though I am not very optimistic.

It might have been a good idea to pay the vaccine developers/big pharma per dose for getting them injected, with a bonus for getting each one they get done before a certain date.

And/or if the federal government would pay for vaccine production when stage III clinical trials started. We’d have tens of millions more doses on hand upon EUA.
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Re: Realistic vaccine date- end of 2021?
« Reply #630 on: January 20, 2021, 04:45:54 PM »
It might have been a good idea to pay the vaccine developers/big pharma per dose for getting them injected, with a bonus for getting each one they get done before a certain date.

And/or if the federal government would pay for vaccine production when stage III clinical trials started. We’d have tens of millions more doses on hand upon EUA.
Could not agree with more - If someone had an incentive things get moving, that is why the private sector always does a better job. In Israel either they care more about the people or Bibi feels it will get him re elected either way they are getting it done.

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Re: Realistic vaccine date- end of 2021?
« Reply #631 on: January 20, 2021, 04:47:41 PM »
Johnson & Johnson’s phase III data should be out shortly, can’t wait to see the results:

https://www.barrons.com/articles/johnson-johnsons-covid-19-vaccine-could-alter-the-course-of-the-pandemic-investors-will-soon-know-if-it-works-51610459381

Anyone read anything recent about this vaccine that isn’t stated in this article?

Fauci recently said we like won’t see data until February but he expects EUA in February.
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Re: Realistic vaccine date- end of 2021?
« Reply #635 on: January 20, 2021, 06:55:06 PM »
https://www.wyff4.com/article/philanthropist-melinda-gates-says-no-excuse-for-covid-19-vaccination-delays/35229423#

Big stink for Biden to “provide” 100m vaccines (doses). I’ll be impressed if he can actually get 100m 1st doses injected within 100 days. That’s realistic, but a feat.
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Re: Realistic vaccine date- end of 2021?
« Reply #636 on: January 20, 2021, 06:59:55 PM »
Big stink for Biden to “provide” 100m vaccines (doses). I’ll be impressed if he can actually get 100m 1st doses injected within 100 days. That’s realistic, but a feat.

Very feasible. We're not far from that pace as is. It's not even ambitious.

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Re: Realistic vaccine date- end of 2021?
« Reply #637 on: January 20, 2021, 07:32:00 PM »
Very feasible. We're not far from that pace as is. It's not even ambitious.
+1 We're at a pace of nearly 1 million doses per day, and we'll probably be over 1 million per day within a week or 2 unless supply runs really short.
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Re: Realistic vaccine date- end of 2021?
« Reply #639 on: January 20, 2021, 07:47:29 PM »
It looks like the goal of 100m is like a participation trophy.