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Re: Realistic vaccine date- end of 2021?
« Reply #810 on: February 11, 2021, 06:05:54 PM »

(I didnt fact-check)
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Re: Realistic vaccine date- end of 2021?
« Reply #811 on: February 14, 2021, 03:02:46 PM »

Some data on vaccines vs variants
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Re: Realistic vaccine date- end of 2021?
« Reply #813 on: February 14, 2021, 08:52:40 PM »
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/how-to-beat-the-pandemic-by-summer/ar-BB1dEcc7?ocid=uxbndlbing

Big fan of point #2, especially if we focus on the younger adults. The example given about headlights on cars was interesting, and I'd take it one step further. I'd rather have one headlight on every car on the road (or even half the cars on the road), than working headlights on parked cars.

The biggest mistake in this article, IMO, is the first paragraph:
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After nearly a year of social isolation and sacrifice in the long war on COVID-19, the end stage of the pandemic is finally in sight. Millions of Americans are being vaccinated each week, and the number of coronavirus-related hospitalizations in the United States has plunged by more than 40 percent in the past month.

Correlating the numbers going down from the second wave with the vaccine rollout may ultimately cause serious harm when the third wave hits.
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Re: Realistic vaccine date- end of 2021?
« Reply #814 on: February 15, 2021, 04:46:54 PM »
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Re: Realistic vaccine date- end of 2021?
« Reply #815 on: February 23, 2021, 08:12:35 PM »
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Re: Realistic vaccine date- end of 2021?
« Reply #816 on: February 23, 2021, 09:00:43 PM »

J&J doesnt have data from US clinical trials like AZN has? Idk why I conflated the two and thought thats what was holding up JNJs data from getting sent to the FDA

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Re: Realistic vaccine date- end of 2021?
« Reply #817 on: February 24, 2021, 02:50:07 AM »
Did J&J test on kids?
Does Israel have outstanding order with J&J?
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Re: Realistic vaccine date- end of 2021?
« Reply #818 on: February 24, 2021, 06:57:05 AM »
Did J&J test on kids?
Does Israel have outstanding order with J&J?

I think the answer to both questions is no:

https://www.reuters.com/article/health-coronavirus-j-j-idUSKBN27F2MP

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Re: Realistic vaccine date- end of 2021?
« Reply #821 on: February 24, 2021, 06:59:59 PM »
Reminds me of Whack-A-Mole

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Re: Realistic vaccine date- end of 2021?
« Reply #822 on: February 24, 2021, 08:11:55 PM »
Very nice. It isnt possible to make a hybrid that includes U.K. , SA, Brazil, LA, etc. variants all all in one?
As long as you have to pay Moderna individually...
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Re: Realistic vaccine date- end of 2021?
« Reply #823 on: February 24, 2021, 08:15:31 PM »
As long as you have to pay Moderna individually...

If they had an omni-variant vaccine then theyd likely be able to sell as much as they produce for a long while. I wonder if its a monetary thing like youre suggesting, or maybe there are scientific/technical development/production issues involved in bringing an omni-variant vaccine to market.

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Re: Realistic vaccine date- end of 2021?
« Reply #824 on: February 24, 2021, 08:52:18 PM »
The flu vaccine is 3-4 different vaccines at once and MMR is 3 in 1, so its definitely possible to multiples vaccines in one shot. I don't know if it possible or feasible to do a MRNA vaccine that way.