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Re: UAE and Israel announce peace and normalization talks
« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2020, 11:57:43 AM »
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Re: UAE and Israel announce peace and normalization talks
« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2020, 12:05:45 PM »
Etihad or Emirates F to TLV?  ;D

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Re: UAE and Israel announce peace and normalization talks
« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2020, 12:06:29 PM »
In exchange for freeze of Annexation

Sounds like the talk of annexation was a good negotiating tactic.
Just because things turned out a certain way doesn't mean you were right.

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Re: UAE and Israel announce peace and normalization talks
« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2020, 12:25:28 PM »
Sounds like the talk of annexation was a good negotiating tactic.

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Re: UAE and Israel announce peace and normalization talks
« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2020, 12:26:09 PM »
Etihad or Emirates F to TLV?  ;D

Will TLV work as a HC for the new AC for someone actually wanting to fly to AUH?
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Re: UAE and Israel announce peace and normalization talks
« Reply #6 on: August 13, 2020, 03:34:55 PM »
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Re: UAE and Israel announce peace and normalization talks
« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2020, 02:05:42 AM »
+10000000000000000000000000

Let's see how many more dividends will come from it.

No one in their right mind can claim that Bibi isn't as smart as it gets on the global political scene.

https://news.google.com/articles/CBMiOmh0dHBzOi8vd3d3LmhhYXJldHouY28uaWwvbmV3cy9wb2xpdGljcy8ucHJlbWl1bS0xLjkwNzE2MDPSAT5odHRwczovL3d3dy5oYWFyZXR6LmNvLmlsL2FtcC9uZXdzL3BvbGl0aWNzLy5wcmVtaXVtLTEuOTA3MTYwMw?hl=he&gl=IL&ceid=IL%3Ahe

Reading that article in Haaretz just cements @aygart's observation in my mind (with the writer seemingly so short-sighted, to put things mildly).

Netanyahu has created (and now almost totally cementes) a totally different paradigm in dealing with Arab countries - compartmentalizing (and virtually marginalizing) the "Palestinian issue". In order to allow those Arab countries to save face, he announces some extreme "anti Palestinian" measure, which he never intended to implement in the current environment (and Trump wisely put as part of the comprehensive deal, to be implemented only alongside all other parts), so he can "put it on hold" in exchange for opening up another country (where the locals mostly have no issue with Israel, Israelis or Jews, and quiet cooperation has been going on for years) to open fully normal relations (and very different from Jordan an Egypt - who have agreements based on the old paradigm, where the populace isn't interested in peace or acceptance of Israel and Israelis, while the rulers understand that peace and cooperation is at their best interest, and they are forced to juggle and appease their populace).
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Re: UAE and Israel announce peace and normalization talks
« Reply #10 on: August 14, 2020, 11:20:48 AM »
https://news.google.com/articles/CBMiOmh0dHBzOi8vd3d3LmhhYXJldHouY28uaWwvbmV3cy9wb2xpdGljcy8ucHJlbWl1bS0xLjkwNzE2MDPSAT5odHRwczovL3d3dy5oYWFyZXR6LmNvLmlsL2FtcC9uZXdzL3BvbGl0aWNzLy5wcmVtaXVtLTEuOTA3MTYwMw?hl=he&gl=IL&ceid=IL%3Ahe

Reading that article in Haaretz just cements @aygart's observation in my mind (with the writer seemingly so short-sighted, to put things mildly).

Netanyahu has created (and now almost totally cementes) a totally different paradigm in dealing with Arab countries - compartmentalizing (and virtually marginalizing) the "Palestinian issue". In order to allow those Arab countries to save face, he announces some extreme "anti Palestinian" measure, which he never intended to implement in the current environment (and Trump wisely put as part of the comprehensive deal, to be implemented only alongside all other parts), so he can "put it on hold" in exchange for opening up another country (where the locals mostly have no issue with Israel, Israelis or Jews, and quiet cooperation has been going on for years) to open fully normal relations (and very different from Jordan an Egypt - who have agreements based on the old paradigm, where the populace isn't interested in peace or acceptance of Israel and Israelis, while the rulers understand that peace and cooperation is at their best interest, and they are forced to juggle and appease their populace).
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-08-13/uae-israel-agreement-why-the-uae-chose-to-normalize-relations?srnd=premium-middle-east

Not only is Biden's take credit for this as being a part of the Arab Peace Initiative (which preceded Obama) ludicrous, but this agreement is a total repudiation of that entire process! It was only by taking the Palestinian aspect off the table that this was able to happen. The "Peace Initiative" and the various roadmaps were the biggest obstacles to peace.

This is recognized by Ben Rhodes.

Just because things turned out a certain way doesn't mean you were right.

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Re: UAE and Israel announce peace and normalization talks
« Reply #11 on: August 14, 2020, 12:04:09 PM »
We have a thread for the political BS: https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=119062.0
Can we keep this one OT?
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Re: UAE and Israel announce peace and normalization talks
« Reply #12 on: August 15, 2020, 10:14:43 PM »
We have a thread for the political BS: https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=119062.0
Can we keep this one OT?
Maybe stop littering that thread with BS.

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Re: UAE and Israel announce peace and normalization talks
« Reply #13 on: August 16, 2020, 08:24:28 AM »
Probably more related to the Lebanese political implosion.

https://m.jpost.com/arab-israeli-conflict/lebanons-president-says-country-could-consider-peace-with-israel-638806

The meaning of this is that the Lebanese are fed up with the Iranian proxies controlling their country.
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Re: UAE and Israel announce peace and normalization talks
« Reply #14 on: August 16, 2020, 09:28:14 AM »
Maybe stop littering that thread with BS.
That thread is in JS were it belongs. This thread is all politics but you call me out instead of those taking it off topic. You are pathetic!!!
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