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Re: Is Trump sabotaging the USPS?
« Reply #100 on: August 16, 2020, 08:56:49 AM »
Do you understand there is different equipment needed for packages, flats, letters, ect?
Yes.
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Re: Is Trump sabotaging the USPS?
« Reply #101 on: August 16, 2020, 09:02:55 AM »
Yes.
Do you understand they don't have the equipment to sort letters?
What is the cheapest I can send a letter via UPS in state?
Will they deliver to every address in the country?
Why do they use USPS, especially in rural areas?

The bottom line is USPS is the only legal entity to handle these ballots. Now we going to help them succeed or help them to fail. All the rest of this stuff is just noise!!!
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Re: Is Trump sabotaging the USPS?
« Reply #102 on: August 16, 2020, 09:09:00 AM »
2019
UPS - 5.5B volume in a year
USPS - 142B volume in a year
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Re: Is Trump sabotaging the USPS?
« Reply #105 on: August 16, 2020, 10:41:16 AM »
I see consistency. He had an agenda against USPS from day one, nothing to do with the elections.
He has an agenda not based on facts. He is now just moved it to mail in voting.

Still all this is just noise. There will be mail in voting. USPS is the only one legally allowed to handle it. Are we going to help them or not?
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Re: Is Trump sabotaging the USPS?
« Reply #106 on: August 16, 2020, 11:14:46 AM »

I'm seeing articles online that they've been dismantling different types of LSM's that sometimes are less efficient than human sorting. Which type of LSM was dismantled at this USPS office in the complaints?
DBCS, these are the workhorses for letter mail. They process 32-36k/hr. You need two employees.
They also put the mail in walk sequence which saves a ton of time for the carrier. It does need to be run twice for this.
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Re: Is Trump sabotaging the USPS?
« Reply #107 on: August 16, 2020, 11:31:48 AM »
DBCS, these are the workhorses for letter mail. They process 32-36k/hr. You need two employees.
They also put the mail in walk sequence which saves a ton of time for the carrier. It does need to be run twice for this.
Link that it was that machine?
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Re: Is Trump sabotaging the USPS?
« Reply #108 on: August 16, 2020, 11:35:23 AM »
Link that it was that machine?
Where is your link saying they are not.
I checked personally with a P&DC.

GIYF: Most of the machines being dismantled in the facilities Motherboard identified are delivery bar code sorters (DBCS), into which letters, postcards and similarly sized mail (but not magazines and large envelopes, which are categorized as “flats” and sorted differently) are fed. The DBCS sorts the mail into one of hundreds of “stackers,” a slot about a foot long. Each slot is for a different destination, be it another post office or distribution facility.

A DBCS typically requires two workers to operate: one to feed the mail into the machine, and the other to collect the mail from the stackers and put them in the appropriate bins for transport. Running at peak efficiency, the machines can sort about 35,000 pieces of mail per hour, a remarkable and oddly mesmerizing feat. But during times of short staffing or low mail volume—both of which have occurred during COVID—DBCSs can be run with one and a half or even just a single worker, albeit less productively.
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Re: Is Trump sabotaging the USPS?
« Reply #109 on: August 16, 2020, 11:40:59 AM »
Where is your link saying they are not.
I checked personally with a P&DC.

GIYF: Most of the machines being dismantled in the facilities Motherboard identified are delivery bar code sorters (DBCS), into which letters, postcards and similarly sized mail (but not magazines and large envelopes, which are categorized as “flats” and sorted differently) are fed. The DBCS sorts the mail into one of hundreds of “stackers,” a slot about a foot long. Each slot is for a different destination, be it another post office or distribution facility.

A DBCS typically requires two workers to operate: one to feed the mail into the machine, and the other to collect the mail from the stackers and put them in the appropriate bins for transport. Running at peak efficiency, the machines can sort about 35,000 pieces of mail per hour, a remarkable and oddly mesmerizing feat. But during times of short staffing or low mail volume—both of which have occurred during COVID—DBCSs can be run with one and a half or even just a single worker, albeit less productively.
Wheres the link you copied this from?
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Re: Is Trump sabotaging the USPS?
« Reply #110 on: August 16, 2020, 11:44:17 AM »
I am still waiting for your link.  >:(
I'm seeing articles online that they've been dismantling different types of LSM's that sometimes are less efficient than human sorting. Which type of LSM was dismantled at this USPS office in the complaints?
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Re: Is Trump sabotaging the USPS?
« Reply #114 on: August 16, 2020, 07:41:48 PM »
So the whole thing was just a ploy? Shocker.
A ploy how?
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Re: Is Trump sabotaging the USPS?
« Reply #115 on: August 16, 2020, 09:21:34 PM »


Link that it was that machine?



Where is your link saying they are not.


Here's one that says they are the machines you are talking about

Informative article.

https://medium.com/@nharpermn/stop-panicking-about-the-post-office-8bcd689b9601

But about your FCM fallacy:

"The Postal Service has not hit its own goals for on-time delivery of any type of first-class mail in five years. Last year, the agency delivered only 80.88% of its three- to five-day single-piece first-class mailings on time, missing its goal by 14.37 percentage points."

https://www.propublica.org/article/the-postal-service-is-steadily-getting-worse-can-it-handle-a-national-mail-in-election
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Re: Is Trump sabotaging the USPS?
« Reply #116 on: August 16, 2020, 09:23:05 PM »
A ploy how?
Sounds to me they are taking 13.something percent of machines out. Many are losing part but not the whole machine, and others are moving to a new place to work. Sounds like an effort to help td he post office not hinder it.
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Re: Is Trump sabotaging the USPS?
« Reply #117 on: August 16, 2020, 09:32:29 PM »
But about your FCM fallacy:
Especially when you cherry pick numbers. Mail in voting will have priority.

"According to a report from the Postal Service’s Office of Inspector General, 95.6% of election mail nationally was delivered on time during the 2018 election, just below the agency’s target of 96%."

Everything I have said so far is correct and I am still wanting for your link saying people are more efficient than machines.

You are going to realize sooner or later that there is nothing I don't know about the processing equipment.  ;)
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Re: Is Trump sabotaging the USPS?
« Reply #118 on: August 16, 2020, 11:00:56 PM »
2019
UPS - 5.5B volume in a year
USPS - 142B volume in a year
Is this the number of packages delayed/lost?

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Re: Is Trump sabotaging the USPS?
« Reply #119 on: August 16, 2020, 11:10:01 PM »
Is this the number of packages delayed/lost?
No UPS had 4.3B of that.  :P
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