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Re: Is Trump sabotaging the USPS?
« Reply #120 on: August 17, 2020, 10:29:19 AM »
Informative article.

https://medium.com/@nharpermn/stop-panicking-about-the-post-office-8bcd689b9601
This is surprisingly not a hit piece (for the most part) and actually is very informative.
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Re: Is Trump sabotaging the USPS?
« Reply #121 on: August 17, 2020, 10:44:09 AM »
This is surprisingly not a hit piece (for the most part) and actually is very informative.
..but is it accurate?
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Re: Is Trump sabotaging the USPS?
« Reply #122 on: August 17, 2020, 11:00:24 AM »
Trump says USPS has been a disaster for many years. He claims 50 years but we know that is not true.
He is asked if veterans will be getting prescriptions late? His response was, no USPS is running very well.
You can't make this stuff up.
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Re: Is Trump sabotaging the USPS?
« Reply #123 on: August 17, 2020, 11:12:21 AM »
..but is it accurate?
Seems so to me. Since you have inside information, maybe you can tell us.
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Re: Is Trump sabotaging the USPS?
« Reply #124 on: August 17, 2020, 11:23:00 AM »
Seems so to me. Since you have inside information, maybe you can tell us.
Anything I posted will be a 100 page discussion. So it is better if do your own fact check. Start with the first one. See if there is a law for the creation of USPS and how it should be run.
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Re: Is Trump sabotaging the USPS?
« Reply #125 on: August 17, 2020, 11:59:12 AM »
Anything I posted will be a 100 page discussion. So it is better if do your own fact check. Start with the first one. See if there is a law for the creation of USPS and how it should be run.
It doesn't discuss whether or not there is a law, it says there is no constitutional requirement.
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Re: Is Trump sabotaging the USPS?
« Reply #126 on: August 17, 2020, 12:49:24 PM »
It doesn't discuss whether or not there is a law, it says there is no constitutional requirement.
...and you think it is not a hit piece?  ::)
Who enacted the law, congress?
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Re: Is Trump sabotaging the USPS?
« Reply #127 on: August 17, 2020, 01:20:14 PM »


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Re: Is Trump sabotaging the USPS?
« Reply #128 on: August 17, 2020, 01:44:05 PM »


Meh. The temptation/potential for a postal worker to grab cash from the envelope is a lot greater than opening a ballot, checking who you voted for and then deciding whether to let it through.

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Re: Is Trump sabotaging the USPS?
« Reply #129 on: August 17, 2020, 01:56:29 PM »
Meh. The temptation/potential for a postal worker to grab cash from the envelope is a lot greater than opening a ballot, checking who you voted for and then deciding whether to let it through.

My post wasn't serious. But I believe the point isn't whether they'd be motivated to mess with the ballots, but whether the system is secure enough to prevent fraud from happening.
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Re: Is Trump sabotaging the USPS?
« Reply #130 on: August 17, 2020, 02:01:04 PM »
...and you think it is not a hit piece?  ::)
Who enacted the law, congress?
Congress generally enacts laws. I'm sure you can see the difference between a law enacted by congress and the myth that the postal service is constitutionally mandated.
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Re: Is Trump sabotaging the USPS?
« Reply #131 on: August 17, 2020, 03:17:15 PM »
Many have been making the argument that absentee voting works, so universal absentee will also work. Just want to share my experience. In 2018 I helped 15-20 people who would not be able to vote in person to request an absentee ballot. Of those, more than half (including me) did not get their ballot until after election day.
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Re: Is Trump sabotaging the USPS?
« Reply #132 on: August 17, 2020, 03:28:00 PM »
My post wasn't serious. But I believe the point isn't whether they'd be motivated to mess with the ballots, but whether the system is secure enough to prevent fraud from happening.
Mail in voting is going to happen. The point should be what can we do to help USPS make this work. Cancelling overtime and dismantling the machines to process the ballots is not the answer.
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Re: Is Trump sabotaging the USPS?
« Reply #133 on: August 17, 2020, 03:29:18 PM »
Congress generally enacts laws. I'm sure you can see the difference between a law enacted by congress and the myth that the postal service is constitutionally mandated.
...and leaving the fact out that there is a law requiring USPS is dishonest. His whole article is like that.
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Re: Is Trump sabotaging the USPS?
« Reply #134 on: August 17, 2020, 03:33:28 PM »
Many have been making the argument that if absentee voting works, so universal absentee will also work. Just want to share my experience. In 2018 I helped 15-20 people who would not be able to vote in person to request an absentee ballot. Of those, more than half did not get their ballot until after election day.
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Re: Is Trump sabotaging the USPS?
« Reply #135 on: August 17, 2020, 03:34:19 PM »
...and leaving the fact out that there is a law requiring USPS is dishonest. His whole article is like that.
He didn't leave it out: "The clause gives Congress the ability to create post offices and the implied authority to create and provide services through the United States Postal Service. And Congress has."
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Re: Is Trump sabotaging the USPS?
« Reply #136 on: August 17, 2020, 03:44:36 PM »
He didn't leave it out: "The clause gives Congress the ability to create post offices and the implied authority to create and provide services through the United States Postal Service. And Congress has."
The constitution gives congress the authority. Now if you want to play word games as he did then that isn't fair. He should just stated the USPS is mandated by law.

“The United States Postal Service shall be operated as a basic and fundamental service provided to the people by the Government of the United States, authorized by the Constitution, created by an Act of Congress, and supported by the people.” 39 U.S.C. §101(a).

Like I said his whole article is like this and I can pick it apart piece by piece but isn't worth my time. If you really care your next assignment is to find out what happened to the 50-75 BILLION the USPS overpaid the pension fund.
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Re: Is Trump sabotaging the USPS?
« Reply #137 on: August 17, 2020, 03:51:52 PM »
Many have been making the argument that if absentee voting works, so universal absentee will also work. Just want to share my experience. In 2018 I helped 15-20 people who would not be able to vote in person to request an absentee ballot. Of those, more than half did not get their ballot until after election day.
Funny if you take the worse figures published about USPS they don't come close to what you and others are saying. I wonder why that is, NOT!!!
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Re: Is Trump sabotaging the USPS?
« Reply #138 on: August 17, 2020, 04:07:39 PM »
"We're making it so it is going to be good, and we're going to take care of our postal workers above all," Trump continued. "We're not firing people, but the way they ran that thing for many years, this isn't a Trump thing. ... This has been one of the disasters of the world, the way it's been run."

What a moron. He can't fire them.  ::)
A disaster is when you bankrupt a casino. That takes a special kind of idiot. And this idiot is doing it to the US. 
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Re: Is Trump sabotaging the USPS?
« Reply #139 on: August 17, 2020, 04:09:45 PM »
What is with this idiot. Does he say anything that is true?
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1295396978482802691
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