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Re: Is Covid Spiking in Boro Park?
« Reply #30 on: August 20, 2020, 11:26:21 PM »
We need Rabanim to collectively put a stop to this. New rule - you don't get a mesadar Kiddushin if your wedding has more than 50 or out of town guests who didn't quarantine.
יותר ממה שהתינוק רוצה לינק, האם רוצה להניק....

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Re: Is Covid Spiking in Boro Park?
« Reply #31 on: August 21, 2020, 12:36:36 AM »
Although a large gathering that includes a covid infected person has the potential to spread the disease to more people than a small wedding, I think the size of the wedding is not what we should concentrate on.
In the NY/NJ area, many have had it, perhaps most.  If we confine our guest list to locals, we're unlikely to have anyone with covid at the wedding. So noone is spreading it.
A good friend is making a wedding very soon.  I talked to her about relatives coming in from out of town.  She's thinking about politely disinviting them.

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Re: Is Covid Spiking in Boro Park?
« Reply #32 on: August 21, 2020, 07:28:53 AM »
She's thinking about politely disinviting them.

This needs to start happening wholesale. We need to wake up to the fact that things like this can have much larger implications for our local communities.
Please wear a mask.

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Re: Is Covid Spiking in Boro Park?
« Reply #33 on: August 21, 2020, 08:03:22 AM »
This needs to start happening wholesale. We need to wake up to the fact that things like this can have much larger implications for our local communities.
Considering this for the most part is the law, it's not so crazy to expect.

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Re: Is Covid Spiking in Boro Park?
« Reply #34 on: August 21, 2020, 08:32:03 AM »
Considering this for the most part is the law, it's not so crazy to expect.

Right or wrong, I don't think the legal argument is going to be what gets people to change the way things are being done.
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Re: Is Covid Spiking in Boro Park?
« Reply #35 on: August 21, 2020, 11:07:31 AM »
That wasn't anything close to an answer to what I asked. There doesn't need to be an exact number. Which of the following numbers would you say should make people uncomfortable? 20, 50, 100, 200, 500, 1000, 5000, 10000?
IMO it's not a number of cases that would be cause for concern, I would be concerned if there is significant community spread. The fact that every small cluster is traced back to a source (generally a simcha) and is contained fairly quickly means we're doing just fine.
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Re: Is Covid Spiking in Boro Park?
« Reply #36 on: August 21, 2020, 11:28:14 AM »
IMO it's not a number of cases that would be cause for concern, I would be concerned if there is significant community spread. The fact that every small cluster is traced back to a source (generally a simcha) and is contained fairly quickly means we're doing just fine.
+.75 There is still the potential that there are more out there than we know about and each cluster raises the potential for that exponentially.

Either way, having the Out of towners at the weddings and them passing it to locals, even if it is only those at the wedding, is not at all okay.
Just because things turned out a certain way doesn't mean you were right.

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Re: Is Covid Spiking in Boro Park?
« Reply #37 on: August 21, 2020, 11:29:53 AM »
+.75 There is still the potential that there are more out there than we know about and each cluster raises the potential for that exponentially.

Either way, having the Out of towners at the weddings and them passing it to locals, even if it is only those at the wedding, is not at all okay.
The question about spread is obviously how quickly and reliably people are getting tested, quarantining, and contact tracing.

If someone is going to an indoor minyan without masks and distancing days after a wedding, this could get bad very fast.

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Re: Is Covid Spiking in Boro Park?
« Reply #38 on: August 21, 2020, 11:31:45 AM »
The question about spread is obviously how quickly and reliably people are getting tested, quarantining, and contact tracing.

If someone is going to an indoor minyan without masks and distancing days after a wedding, this could get bad very fast.
Not really, enough people had it that none of these things spread.

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Re: Is Covid Spiking in Boro Park?
« Reply #39 on: August 21, 2020, 11:36:28 AM »
Not really, enough people had it that none of these things spread.
That's debatable. Let's say 40% had it. What that means is introducing community spread is harder, but once it's there, it's not as big of a factor if 1 spreader goes to shul where half didn't get it.

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Re: Is Covid Spiking in Boro Park?
« Reply #40 on: August 21, 2020, 11:40:20 AM »
That's debatable. Let's say 40% had it. What that means is introducing community spread is harder, but once it's there, it's not as big of a factor if 1 spreader goes to shul where half didn't get it.
I think your overblowing it. We didn't have new cases for months. Now that there's been a few isolated cases I think is 0 reason for concern and there is no reason to believe that they more then one of stories. Most schools in bp/willi/lkwd/monsey opened after pesach, life's been back to normal and now 4 months later there's a few cases.

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Re: Is Covid Spiking in Boro Park?
« Reply #41 on: August 21, 2020, 11:44:27 AM »
Either way, having the Out of towners at the weddings and them passing it to locals, even if it is only those at the wedding, is not at all okay.
Maybe OOTers should get tested before coming to weddings. It won't catch everyone but hopefully a good percentage
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Re: Is Covid Spiking in Boro Park?
« Reply #42 on: August 21, 2020, 12:25:13 PM »

If someone is going to an indoor minyan without masks and distancing days after a wedding, this could get bad very fast.
This has been happening for months with no evidence of community spread caused by it. If something changes all bets are off, but for the time being it looks like we're ok.
Maybe OOTers should get tested before coming to weddings. It won't catch everyone but hopefully a good percentage
This is a good idea, I think if rapid testing was more easily available it would be easier to implement.
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Re: Is Covid Spiking in Boro Park?
« Reply #43 on: August 21, 2020, 12:28:21 PM »
if rapid testing was more easily available it would be easier to implement.
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Re: Is Covid Spiking in Boro Park?
« Reply #44 on: August 21, 2020, 12:29:21 PM »
+1
There are already rules around this being ignored.