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Re: Is Covid Spiking in Boro Park?
« Reply #15 on: August 20, 2020, 10:02:43 PM »
I think a lot of people are tired of the trade-off between being safe from a virus which likely won't affect them versus not being able to lead normal lives. Not agreeing, just explaining.
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Re: Is Covid Spiking in Boro Park?
« Reply #16 on: August 20, 2020, 10:06:39 PM »
I think a lot of people are tired of the trade-off between being safe from a virus which likely won't affect kill them versus not being able to lead normal lives. Not agreeing, just explaining.

FTFY, and I don't disagree. I think people also make the mistake of confusing not dying with not being affected.
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Re: Is Covid Spiking in Boro Park?
« Reply #17 on: August 20, 2020, 10:09:24 PM »
FTFY, and I don't disagree. I think people also make the mistake of confusing not dying with not being affected.

I was intentionally vague with my word choice there. Flu is an awful illness but we still find people not inconveniencing themselves to get vaccinated or practice good hygiene.
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Re: Is Covid Spiking in Boro Park?
« Reply #18 on: August 20, 2020, 10:16:11 PM »
I was intentionally vague with my word choice there. Flu is an awful illness but we still find people not inconveniencing themselves to get vaccinated or practice good hygiene.

While you're not wrong that people don't give the flu the respect it deserves in terms of prevention, I think you do a disservice to compare the effects of the flu to Covid. I don't think there is a single person among us who can say that they know more people who have been affected by the flu over the last 30 or 40 years than they know people who were affected by Covid over the last 5 months.
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Re: Is Covid Spiking in Boro Park?
« Reply #19 on: August 20, 2020, 10:18:18 PM »
While you're not wrong that people don't give the flu the respect it deserves in terms of prevention, I think you do a disservice to compare the effects of the flu to Covid. I don't think there is a single person among us who can say that they know more people who have been affected by the flu over the last 30 or 40 years than they know people who were affected by Covid over the last 5 months.
We'll do anything to prevent the spread, unless it would prevent someone from Florida being able to eat their quarter chicken at a Simcha.

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Re: Is Covid Spiking in Boro Park?
« Reply #20 on: August 20, 2020, 10:21:28 PM »
I think I'm misunderstanding you. Are you saying that the Jews of NY and NJ no longer care if anyone gets the virus?
In the communities that are having these stories for the most part yes. Obviously in a perfect world we'd hope for no cases. But if the news is up in arms about 16 cases then they're doing quite alright for themselves.

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Re: Is Covid Spiking in Boro Park?
« Reply #21 on: August 20, 2020, 10:23:52 PM »
We'll do anything to prevent the spread, unless it would prevent someone from Florida being able to eat their quarter chicken at a Simcha.

I just find the irony... well, ironic. Just these past 3 weeks, I've been invited to 4 weddings, a few lchaims, and a bunch of brissim in FL. All of the invitations were Zoom invites, because each simcha had close family and a few friends only, and always less than 40 or 50 people. If we in FL don't invite people from FL to our Simchas, why would anyone in NY/NJ invite them???
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Re: Is Covid Spiking in Boro Park?
« Reply #22 on: August 20, 2020, 10:25:58 PM »
In the communities that are having these stories for the most part yes. Obviously in a perfect world we'd hope for no cases. But if the news is up in arms about 16 cases then they're doing quite alright for themselves.

And in your opinion, at what amount of cases would they not be doing quite alright for themselves?
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Re: Is Covid Spiking in Boro Park?
« Reply #23 on: August 20, 2020, 10:29:44 PM »
And in your opinion, at what amount of cases would they not be doing quite alright for themselves?
There's no magic number. But after 4 months of having been back to life being 100%normal, I think we can say they are just fine.

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Re: Is Covid Spiking in Boro Park?
« Reply #24 on: August 20, 2020, 10:34:05 PM »
There's no magic number. But after 4 months of having been back to life being 100%normal, I think we can say they are just fine.

That wasn't anything close to an answer to what I asked. There doesn't need to be an exact number. Which of the following numbers would you say should make people uncomfortable? 20, 50, 100, 200, 500, 1000, 5000, 10000?
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Re: Is Covid Spiking in Boro Park?
« Reply #25 on: August 20, 2020, 10:36:26 PM »
That wasn't anything close to an answer to what I asked. There doesn't need to be an exact number. Which of the following numbers would you say should make people uncomfortable? 20, 50, 100, 200, 500, 1000, 5000, 10000?
I think if there was 20+ new cases on a weekly basis after a bit people would start caring a drop. Less than that definitely not.

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Re: Is Covid Spiking in Boro Park?
« Reply #26 on: August 20, 2020, 10:40:11 PM »
I think if there was 20+ new cases on a weekly basis after a bit people would start caring a drop. Less than that definitely not.

So 16 isn't something to sneeze at, it's something to keep an eye on. Nothing to freak out about, but take notice, right?
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Re: Is Covid Spiking in Boro Park?
« Reply #27 on: August 20, 2020, 10:41:01 PM »
I think if there was 20+ new cases on a weekly basis after a bit people would start caring a drop. Less than that definitely not.
If there were 16 cases from one wedding then how far off can that be? There are already numerous wedding that have been behind the vast majority of new cases. In the end these weddings will be what causes another lockdown.
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Re: Is Covid Spiking in Boro Park?
« Reply #28 on: August 20, 2020, 10:48:01 PM »


In the end these weddings will be what causes another lockdown.

This. In addition, if there is chas veshalom another outbreak with people hospitalized, these weddings can again become an impetus for lack of care in hospitals which led to many deaths last time Rachmana litzlan

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Re: Is Covid Spiking in Boro Park?
« Reply #29 on: August 20, 2020, 10:49:36 PM »
If there were 16 cases from one wedding then how far off can that be? There are already numerous wedding that have been behind the vast majority of new cases. In the end these weddings will be what causes another lockdown.
We need Rabanim to collectively put a stop to this. New rule - you don't get a mesadar Kiddushin if your wedding has more than 50 or out of town guests who didn't quarantine.