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Re: Is Covid Spiking in Boro Park?
« Reply #380 on: September 09, 2020, 04:11:50 PM »
Hearing that there were close to 30 Hatzoloh calls for covid in Cedarhurst/ North Woodmere?
Can't be, they all wear masks so transmission and viral loads are much smaller/ non existent. Only lakewood has covid calls.

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Re: Is Covid Spiking in Boro Park?
« Reply #381 on: September 09, 2020, 04:21:42 PM »
Not true.
K. Someone who lives in the area mentioned this. I guess they did not have accurate info.

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Re: Is Covid Spiking in Boro Park?
« Reply #382 on: September 09, 2020, 04:22:39 PM »
Can't be, they all wear masks so transmission and viral loads are much smaller/ non existent. Only lakewood has covid calls.

That's not true. My wife teaches in a BY in that area and the students are not required to wear masks. We aren't happy about it, but the school made policy.

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Re: Is Covid Spiking in Boro Park?
« Reply #383 on: September 09, 2020, 04:34:17 PM »
That's not true. My wife teaches in a BY in that area and the students are not required to wear masks. We aren't happy about it, but the school made policy.
I know some yeshivas left it up to the teachers..

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Re: Is Covid Spiking in Boro Park?
« Reply #384 on: September 09, 2020, 04:49:34 PM »
I have no inside knowledge regarding Hatzolah calls in the 5T. I do know that a shul in NW send out an email that there was a guest in the community over Shabbos who subsequently tested positive. He davened in several shuls - with a mask - but also attended a kiddush where he ate without a mask. So it is possible that this created an uptick in the area.

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Re: Is Covid Spiking in Boro Park?
« Reply #385 on: September 09, 2020, 04:50:45 PM »
That's not true. My wife teaches in a BY in that area and the students are not required to wear masks. We aren't happy about it, but the school made policy.

For comparison, here is BY Baltimore rules, which are being fully enforced. Some will love them, some will think they are excessive:

-Students without completed and signed forms will not be admitted to school. Once others have gone to class, any such student will be led to a quarantine spot and remain there until a form is submitted. The office will be able to address such situations only after school has begun. Students who arrive at school once the school day has started must turn in their forms before proceeding anywhere else in the building.

- Completing and signing COVID forms on a daily basis is demanding and challenging – but our key to being able to have safe, regular school.

-Masks need to be worn at all times except during lunch time (according to the guidelines below) and regular mask breaks at the end of each period.

-Enter and exit the building according to the front doors’ grade designations.

-Snacks may be eaten only when you are sitting at your desk, distanced from others, during mask off times, or outside if distanced. Bring your snack with you to class beforehand. This may be hard to get used to, but there is no eating, drinking, or snacking except according to the guidelines outlined here.

-Under these circumstances, we have received a psak that students eating in the classrooms may wash for motzei in the bathroom and make the bracha as you dry your hands outside the bathroom.

-Students may eat lunch at their distanced desks or outside (nowhere else in the building). You may eat with others outside if you are distanced at least five feet apart. There is very little room for this out front, and you may eat in the field. Those who eat in the classrooms may afterwards walk outside unmasked, if distanced from others. The auditorium will be available to a different grade each day for distance eating. We have extended lunch time several minutes in order for the options above to be more feasible. If you are out of earshot of the bell, be sure to bring a watch. You must be on time to afternoon classes.

-Students may also walk briefly outside unmasked and distanced during afternoon break. It is your responsibility to be back in class on time.

-Students will receive lockers, but you are asked to arrange your belongings so that you will go to your locker only infrequently during the day. Also, please avoid going to your locker regularly at the end of the day.

-Loitering at lockers or in the hallways or bathrooms will not be permitted, even masked. Be prepared to spend spare time at your desk in the classroom.

·        When walking in corridors, stay to the right, as will be indicated by directional arrows.
·        We plan to provide cleansers (or you can bring your own), so that classes can wipe down any desks used, which you will leave before the next class.  Homeroom classes will remain in the same classroom throughout the morning.
-Grades will be kept in their individual, designated areas (in general).

-Staircases will be designated: Front stairs- eleventh grade; Back stairs- ninth grade; Middle stairs- tenth and twelfth grade.

-For afternoon classes, we will be alternating asking different parts of the alphabet to wait for one minute after the bell before leaving class, to prevent hallway crowding. We will start the year with one arrangement and alternate during the year.

-At school starting and ending times, remain distanced as you wait your turn to enter or leave.

-Students are expected to remain and interact only in their designated grade areas during the school day.

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Re: Is Covid Spiking in Boro Park?
« Reply #386 on: September 09, 2020, 04:57:38 PM »
For comparison, here is BY Baltimore rules, which are being fully enforced. Some will love them, some will think they are excessive:

-Students without completed and signed forms will not be admitted to school. Once others have gone to class, any such student will be led to a quarantine spot and remain there until a form is submitted. The office will be able to address such situations only after school has begun. Students who arrive at school once the school day has started must turn in their forms before proceeding anywhere else in the building.

- Completing and signing COVID forms on a daily basis is demanding and challenging – but our key to being able to have safe, regular school.

-Masks need to be worn at all times except during lunch time (according to the guidelines below) and regular mask breaks at the end of each period.

-Enter and exit the building according to the front doors’ grade designations.

-Snacks may be eaten only when you are sitting at your desk, distanced from others, during mask off times, or outside if distanced. Bring your snack with you to class beforehand. This may be hard to get used to, but there is no eating, drinking, or snacking except according to the guidelines outlined here.

-Under these circumstances, we have received a psak that students eating in the classrooms may wash for motzei in the bathroom and make the bracha as you dry your hands outside the bathroom.

-Students may eat lunch at their distanced desks or outside (nowhere else in the building). You may eat with others outside if you are distanced at least five feet apart. There is very little room for this out front, and you may eat in the field. Those who eat in the classrooms may afterwards walk outside unmasked, if distanced from others. The auditorium will be available to a different grade each day for distance eating. We have extended lunch time several minutes in order for the options above to be more feasible. If you are out of earshot of the bell, be sure to bring a watch. You must be on time to afternoon classes.

-Students may also walk briefly outside unmasked and distanced during afternoon break. It is your responsibility to be back in class on time.

-Students will receive lockers, but you are asked to arrange your belongings so that you will go to your locker only infrequently during the day. Also, please avoid going to your locker regularly at the end of the day.

-Loitering at lockers or in the hallways or bathrooms will not be permitted, even masked. Be prepared to spend spare time at your desk in the classroom.

·        When walking in corridors, stay to the right, as will be indicated by directional arrows.
·        We plan to provide cleansers (or you can bring your own), so that classes can wipe down any desks used, which you will leave before the next class.  Homeroom classes will remain in the same classroom throughout the morning.
-Grades will be kept in their individual, designated areas (in general).

-Staircases will be designated: Front stairs- eleventh grade; Back stairs- ninth grade; Middle stairs- tenth and twelfth grade.

-For afternoon classes, we will be alternating asking different parts of the alphabet to wait for one minute after the bell before leaving class, to prevent hallway crowding. We will start the year with one arrangement and alternate during the year.

-At school starting and ending times, remain distanced as you wait your turn to enter or leave.

-Students are expected to remain and interact only in their designated grade areas during the school day.
What's a "mask break"?

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Re: Is Covid Spiking in Boro Park?
« Reply #387 on: September 09, 2020, 05:24:08 PM »
its like a kit kat break

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Re: Is Covid Spiking in Boro Park?
« Reply #388 on: September 09, 2020, 05:34:03 PM »
WhatsApp going around. No clue if it’s accurate.
Hi All

Just letting everyone know that COVID cases are on the rise in 5T/Far Rock with at least 2 people from Far Rockaway in critical condition. Although many of the cases are mild,and one may be over confident that they did or didn’t get very sick previously now is not the time to be less vigilant. Everyone should continue to wear a mask, social distance and wash their hands. If there’s not a need to be in groups one shouldn’t overexposed themselves in those elements. I.E. shopping can be done online over the phone. No meals with Friends etc.

3 weeks ago Hatzalah had Zero COVID calls. 2 weeks ago we had 3. This past week we had 20+. Fact don’t lie.
2 people who were perfectly healthy 3 weeks ago are now on vents (YOUNG PEOPLE)
facts don’t lie.

Having anitbodies doesn’t protect you. There are people who previously had antibodies and no longer have. People who have antibodies can still Transmit Covid as much as anyone else.

Having a negative Covid test yesterday doesn’t protect your friends/family today.

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Re: Is Covid Spiking in Boro Park?
« Reply #389 on: September 09, 2020, 05:36:55 PM »
WhatsApp going around. No clue if it’s accurate.
Hi All

Just letting everyone know that COVID cases are on the rise in 5T/Far Rock with at least 2 people from Far Rockaway in critical condition. Although many of the cases are mild,and one may be over confident that they did or didn’t get very sick previously now is not the time to be less vigilant. Everyone should continue to wear a mask, social distance and wash their hands. If there’s not a need to be in groups one shouldn’t overexposed themselves in those elements. I.E. shopping can be done online over the phone. No meals with Friends etc.

3 weeks ago Hatzalah had Zero COVID calls. 2 weeks ago we had 3. This past week we had 20+. Fact don’t lie.
2 people who were perfectly healthy 3 weeks ago are now on vents (YOUNG PEOPLE)
facts don’t lie.

Having anitbodies doesn’t protect you. There are people who previously had antibodies and no longer have. People who have antibodies can still Transmit Covid as much as anyone else.

Having a negative Covid test yesterday doesn’t protect your friends/family today.
X post in the Lakewood thread where people were swearing up and down that it was a fringe medical position that people with antibodies can transmit it.

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Re: Is Covid Spiking in Boro Park?
« Reply #390 on: September 09, 2020, 05:42:02 PM »
X post in the Lakewood thread where people were swearing up and down that it was a fringe medical position that people with antibodies can transmit it.
It’s just an unverified WhatsApp post. Don’t put stock in it.

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Re: Is Covid Spiking in Boro Park?
« Reply #391 on: September 09, 2020, 05:50:11 PM »
X post in the Lakewood thread where people were swearing up and down that it was a fringe medical position that people with antibodies can transmit it.
It is. And some random WhatsApp post doesn’t make it any less fringe.

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Re: Is Covid Spiking in Boro Park?
« Reply #392 on: September 09, 2020, 05:53:31 PM »
What's a "mask break"?

Its a 5 minute break halfway through a 40 minute class. Everyone can remove their masks and breathe normally. Girls are not allowed to talk to their neighbors in class during this break.

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Re: Is Covid Spiking in Boro Park?
« Reply #393 on: September 09, 2020, 06:01:45 PM »
Its a 5 minute break halfway through a 40 minute class. Everyone can remove their masks and breathe normally. Girls are not allowed to talk to their neighbors in class during this break.
Doesn't this mostly defeat mask wearing? Shouldn't the mask breaks be outdoors?

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Re: Is Covid Spiking in Boro Park?
« Reply #394 on: September 09, 2020, 06:52:39 PM »
Doesn't this mostly defeat mask wearing? Shouldn't the mask breaks be outdoors?

It’s really fascinating that all rabbanim/community leaders don’t consult you when making plans since you seem to think that you’re right and everyone else is wrong.

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Re: Is Covid Spiking in Boro Park?
« Reply #395 on: September 09, 2020, 07:36:00 PM »
It’s really fascinating that all rabbanim/community leaders don’t consult you when making plans since you seem to think that you’re right and everyone else is wrong.
Do you have anything objective to say? @shaulyaakov made an objective statement and you replied with a subjective statement.

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Re: Is Covid Spiking in Boro Park?
« Reply #396 on: September 09, 2020, 07:36:23 PM »
Doesn't this mostly defeat mask wearing?

IMO, ahhh yes

Shouldn't the mask breaks be outdoors?
That wouldn’t be practical....500 girls walk out of the building for 5 minutes each class period. It takes 5 minutes just to get out of the building.

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Re: Is Covid Spiking in Boro Park?
« Reply #397 on: September 09, 2020, 07:55:21 PM »
It’s really fascinating that all rabbanim/community leaders don’t consult you when making plans since you seem to think that you’re right and everyone else is wrong.
Do you want everyone to get covid? Seriously, you can't actually defend decisions being made, you just respond "well that's what was decided".

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Re: Is Covid Spiking in Boro Park?
« Reply #398 on: September 09, 2020, 08:25:26 PM »
People who have antibodies can still Transmit Covid as much as anyone else.

Source?

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Re: Is Covid Spiking in Boro Park?
« Reply #399 on: September 09, 2020, 09:19:58 PM »
Source?
A random WhatsApp poster who probably has zero clue of what they are talking about. I only posted it for the first part which alleged multiple Hatzoloh calls due to covid. If anything I would call it baloney. It certainly doesn’t sound logical that those with antibodies would be immune to the disease yet would build up a high enough viral load to shed it and infect others.