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Re: COVID-19 Reinfection
« Reply #80 on: September 25, 2020, 03:35:35 PM »
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Re: COVID-19 Reinfection
« Reply #82 on: September 25, 2020, 04:42:18 PM »
twitter.com/avitalrachel/status/1309542974490058752

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Re: COVID-19 Reinfection
« Reply #83 on: September 25, 2020, 04:44:38 PM »
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: COVID-19 Reinfection
« Reply #84 on: September 25, 2020, 04:45:05 PM »

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Re: COVID-19 Reinfection
« Reply #85 on: September 25, 2020, 04:48:05 PM »
https://twitter.com/avitalrachel/status/1309542974490058752
DiBlasio was asking for this when he gave an unrealistic deadline of Tuesday.

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Re: COVID-19 Reinfection
« Reply #86 on: September 25, 2020, 04:54:34 PM »
DiBlasio was asking for this when he gave an unrealistic deadline of Tuesday.
It's not a deadline, it's an ultimatum.

The regulations have been ignored for months. Throwing stones in glass houses and such...

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Re: COVID-19 Reinfection
« Reply #87 on: September 25, 2020, 04:59:43 PM »
It's not a deadline, it's an ultimatum.

The regulations have been ignored for months. Throwing stones in glass houses and such...
What exactly does he expect to happen? Even if everyone locked down Wuhan style this week, the cases would still be rising by Tuesday.

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Re: COVID-19 Reinfection
« Reply #88 on: September 25, 2020, 05:03:03 PM »
What exactly does he expect to happen? Even if everyone locked down Wuhan style this week, the cases would still be rising by Tuesday.
I assume the goal is a shutdown, but not on Yom Kippur.

Again, these aren't regulations out of nowhere.

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Re: COVID-19 Reinfection
« Reply #89 on: September 25, 2020, 05:04:31 PM »
It's not a deadline, it's an ultimatum.

The regulations have been ignored for months. Throwing stones in glass houses and such...
They were basically given the green light to ignore the regulations by city hall. They knew exactly what was going on for months and did nothing to stop it. Now all of the sudden BDB and the DOH are coming in and closing schools and threatening lockdowns.

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Re: COVID-19 Reinfection
« Reply #90 on: September 25, 2020, 05:05:11 PM »
Im aware personally of 3 confirmed reinfections in Lakewood, all mild.
Are you serious?! Why is this not being publicized?
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Re: COVID-19 Reinfection
« Reply #91 on: September 25, 2020, 05:06:26 PM »
They were basically given the green light to ignore the regulations by city hall. They knew exactly what was going on for months and did nothing to stop it. Now all of the sudden BDB and the DOH are coming in and closing schools and threatening lockdowns.
It's not unexpected! Cases have been rising. I'm sure it was understood by the leaders that their green light was contingent on cases remaining low.

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Re: COVID-19 Reinfection
« Reply #92 on: September 25, 2020, 05:09:56 PM »
Are you serious?! Why is this not being publicized?
Because this would go against the Igud's approach. Every letter they've put out has urged people to get tested for antibodies.

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Re: COVID-19 Reinfection
« Reply #93 on: September 25, 2020, 05:11:04 PM »
Because this would go against the Igud's approach. Every letter they've put out has urged people to get tested for antibodies.
Are you insinuating that they are being maliciously misleading? Highly unlikely
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Re: COVID-19 Reinfection
« Reply #94 on: September 25, 2020, 05:13:05 PM »
It's not unexpected! Cases have been rising. I'm sure it was understood by the leaders that their green light was contingent on cases remaining low.
So then why not shut down today? If it’s so vital and necessary

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Re: COVID-19 Reinfection
« Reply #95 on: September 25, 2020, 05:16:32 PM »
So then why not shut down today? If it’s so vital and necessary
Politics. Same reason Israel reneged on closing shuls for Yom Kippur.

This whole line of argument is absurd. You specifically, and many people collectively have argued against the need for restrictions at every turn.

How would you have felt to have constant sheriff presence outside every shul, school, and wedding hall for 2 months? You would have screamed "herd immunity" and government overreach.

The city tried it your way, but unfortunately, the facts no longer bear out that there's herd immunity. So I'm really at a loss for what you would have wanted to have been done differently.

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Re: COVID-19 Reinfection
« Reply #96 on: September 25, 2020, 05:18:51 PM »
Are you serious?! Why is this not being publicized?
I have no interest in this discussion and won't post more unless it's straight information. However what I will say is that there are a very many cases of false positives as well as situations where iiuc people are still testing positive well after it's gone for a variety of reasons. there are recommendations to irigate your nose before getting retested and it supposedly helps a little.
That being said I can try to get exact information in these cases and present the facts when they were tested , where they were tested. what type of tests etc. Supposedly these three cases were positive around pesach and are positive again now.

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Re: COVID-19 Reinfection
« Reply #97 on: September 25, 2020, 05:21:37 PM »
I have no interest in this discussion and won't post more unless it's straight information. However what I will say is that there are a very many cases of false positives as well as situations where iiuc people are still testing positive well after it's gone for a variety of reasons. there are recommendations to irigate your nose before getting retested and it supposedly helps a little.
That being said I can try to get exact information in these cases and present the facts when they were tested , where they were tested. what type of tests etc. Supposedly these three cases were positive around pesach and are positive again now.
A positive followed by a negative, with antibodies and then positive again would be very alarming.


The science on antibodies has always been that they could start to wane at 6 months, and that's right where we are, so while this is bad, it really shouldn't shock anyone.

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Re: COVID-19 Reinfection
« Reply #98 on: September 25, 2020, 05:25:05 PM »
A positive followed by a negative, with antibodies and then positive again would be very alarming.


The science on antibodies has always been that they could start to wane at 6 months, and that's right where we are, so while this is bad, it really shouldn't shock anyone.
An old chavrusa of mine who lives in CH had COVID-19 before Pesach, donated Plasma, and just tested positive again:
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=2986721624908259&id=100007113528735
He writes positive PCR, negative PCR, antibodies and donated plasma, now headache and positive PCR. Mild symptoms the 2nd time.
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Re: COVID-19 Reinfection
« Reply #99 on: September 25, 2020, 05:27:33 PM »
He writes positive PCR, negative PCR, antibodies and donated plasma, now headache and positive PCR. Mild symptoms the 2nd time.