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Possible to land before shabbos?
« on: May 30, 2023, 10:19:04 PM »
Hi all,

Are either of these flight options risky to get to Jerusalem before shabbos?

Lh419 Dulles to Fra Thursday 6:10 pm
2 hr 10 minute layover
Lh686 Fra to tlv. Lands 15:25 on Friday.

VS 22 IAD to LHR Thursday 6:15
1 hr 35 minute layover
Vs 457 lands Friday 3:40 pm

Thanks!

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Re: Possible to land before shabbos?
« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2023, 10:23:30 PM »
Hi all,

Are either of these flight options risky to get to Jerusalem before shabbos?

Lh419 Dulles to Fra Thursday 6:10 pm
2 hr 10 minute layover
Lh686 Fra to tlv. Lands 15:25 on Friday.

VS 22 IAD to LHR Thursday 6:15
1 hr 35 minute layover
Vs 457 lands Friday 3:40 pm

Thanks!

Technically doable but I wouldn't take any of them.

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Possible to land before shabbos?
« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2023, 11:41:00 PM »
Hi all,

Are either of these flight options risky to get to Jerusalem before shabbos?

Lh419 Dulles to Fra Thursday 6:10 pm
2 hr 10 minute layover
Lh686 Fra to tlv. Lands 15:25 on Friday.

VS 22 IAD to LHR Thursday 6:15
1 hr 35 minute layover
Vs 457 lands Friday 3:40 pm

Thanks!
General rule of thumb is scheduled landing at least 7 hours before shabbos.

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Re: Possible to land before shabbos?
« Reply #3 on: May 30, 2023, 11:47:49 PM »
General rule of thumb is scheduled landing at least 7 hours before shabbos.
What's the Cheshbon with this rule?

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Possible to land before shabbos?
« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2023, 11:52:24 PM »
What's the Cheshbon with this rule?
Flights can be delayed after boarding for as much as 4 hours without deplaning. 1 hour after landing to taxi/get luggage. 1 hour from TLV to typical chareidi areas. Leaves an hour to get ready for shabbos.

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Re: Possible to land before shabbos?
« Reply #5 on: May 31, 2023, 01:32:13 AM »
Thank you all!

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Re: Possible to land before shabbos?
« Reply #7 on: May 31, 2023, 01:03:10 PM »
This should be a master thread
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Re: Possible to land before shabbos?
« Reply #10 on: June 30, 2023, 09:41:00 AM »
 stuck because of a delayed flight: "They want to stay in Israel"
Dozens of ultra-Orthodox are stuck in Israel and are desperate for help after the EasyJet flight from Tel Aviv to Manchester that was supposed to take off at 1:30 PM was postponed for an unknown time. In the field they are not allowed to go back to stay in Israel in order not to violate Shabbat. "Yes, not to desecrate Shabbat
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Re: Possible to land before shabbos?
« Reply #11 on: June 30, 2023, 09:41:12 AM »
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Re: Possible to land before shabbos?
« Reply #12 on: June 30, 2023, 09:56:32 AM »

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Re: Possible to land before shabbos?
« Reply #13 on: June 30, 2023, 10:04:52 AM »
לאחר שעות מורטות עצבים, יונה ויזל, רל"ש ח"כ יעקב אשר, נכנס לעובי הקורה והפעיל את כל צמרת ההנהלה בנתב"ג לשחרור הנוסעים שומרי השבת שהיו אמורים לטוס לאנגליה. ל'בחדרי חרדים' נודע כי בשעה זו הנוסעים כבר מקבלים את מזוודותיהם בטרמינל 3 בדרכם הביתה לשבת.
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Re: Possible to land before shabbos?
« Reply #14 on: June 30, 2023, 10:08:21 AM »
Was originally scheduled to leave yesterday at 9pm.



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Re: Possible to land before shabbos?
« Reply #15 on: June 30, 2023, 12:13:33 PM »
Why weren't they allowed to reenter the country? Visa/passport issues? Obviously leaving from the departure area in TLV isn't the typical flow of passengers, but presumably things come up with some frequency where travelers have to cancel trips after security and passport control.

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Re: Possible to land before shabbos?
« Reply #16 on: July 01, 2023, 06:09:09 PM »
Why weren't they allowed to reenter the country? Visa/passport issues? Obviously leaving from the departure area in TLV isn't the typical flow of passengers, but presumably things come up with some frequency where travelers have to cancel trips after security and passport control.
The problem was probably with the luggage.
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Re: Possible to land before shabbos?
« Reply #17 on: July 01, 2023, 09:47:47 PM »
Hi all,

Are either of these flight options risky to get to Jerusalem before shabbos?

Lh419 Dulles to Fra Thursday 6:10 pm
2 hr 10 minute layover
Lh686 Fra to tlv. Lands 15:25 on Friday.

VS 22 IAD to LHR Thursday 6:15
1 hr 35 minute layover
Vs 457 lands Friday 3:40 pm

Thanks!

With any layover option, a delay in either leg could cause you issues. Granted you can choose not to travel if your first leg is delayed, but you might not always have that choice (e.g. tarmac delay), and even if you do it means you won’t actually make it to Israel and might have to potentially forfeit both the trip and the ticket cost.
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