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So shoot me
« on: September 08, 2020, 12:45:05 PM »
I changed my mind, but wear a mask
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Re: So shoot me
« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2020, 12:52:23 PM »
Agree with everything you said more or less. Just wondering, isn't the point of a mask for when you can't or likely can't social distance? That's where I see an issue. If the closest person is 100 feet away, WTH should I wear a mask? If I'm in a shul that safely provides 6ft between people and I know I will keep to it, so why should I have to wear a mask? Obviously if it's a shul that isn't social distancing, then that's a different story.

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Re: So shoot me
« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2020, 12:53:59 PM »
I changed my mind, but wear a mask

Almao!!! You're a legend, dude.
Please wear a mask.

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Re: So shoot me
« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2020, 12:59:24 PM »
Agree with everything you said more or less. Just wondering, isn't the point of a mask for when you can't or likely can't social distance? That's where I see an issue. If the closest person is 100 feet away, WTH should I wear a mask? If I'm in a shul that safely provides 6ft between people and I know I will keep to it, so why should I have to wear a mask? Obviously if it's a shul that isn't social distancing, then that's a different story.

It's a bit of both. We discussed viral loads, i.e. if 100 people singing and 5 are infected, the viral load causes the other 95 to possibly be infected.

Hence masks, proper ventilation etc lower capacity and the like

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Re: So shoot me
« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2020, 01:01:42 PM »
Agree with everything you said more or less. Just wondering, isn't the point of a mask for when you can't or likely can't social distance? That's where I see an issue. If the closest person is 100 feet away, WTH should I wear a mask? If I'm in a shul that safely provides 6ft between people and I know I will keep to it, so why should I have to wear a mask? Obviously if it's a shul that isn't social distancing, then that's a different story.

A few reasons.
1) While 6 feet is generally used, many studies have shown that droplets travel much farther when one coughs or sneezes.
2) IINM, 6 feet is for outdoors. Indoors, aerosolized particles remain in the air for long periods of time and can move around the room with help of fans or HVAC.
3) Social distancing doesn't stop the particles from settling on surfaces. Unless those surfaces are cleaned regularly between people using them, a mask is the best way to keep those surfaces from becoming contaminated.
Please wear a mask.

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Re: So shoot me
« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2020, 03:43:13 PM »
I changed my mind, but wear a mask

Changed your mind regarding what, your opinion re covid?

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Re: So shoot me
« Reply #6 on: September 08, 2020, 04:04:44 PM »
Changed your mind regarding what, your opinion re covid?

No I changed my mind about the whole post.   Haha it was a piece of work!

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Re: So shoot me
« Reply #7 on: September 09, 2020, 01:52:17 AM »
Agree with everything you said more or less. Just wondering, isn't the point of a mask for when you can't or likely can't social distance? That's where I see an issue. If the closest person is 100 feet away, WTH should I wear a mask? If I'm in a shul that safely provides 6ft between people and I know I will keep to it, so why should I have to wear a mask? Obviously if it's a shul that isn't social distancing, then that's a different story.
Don't know what he said but virus particles can linger in the air indoors for a long time if you aren't wearing a mask, and one can get infected even 6 feet or more away from others.
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Re: So shoot me
« Reply #8 on: September 09, 2020, 05:26:50 PM »
Don't know what he said but virus particles can linger in the air indoors for a long time if you aren't wearing a mask, and one can get infected even 6 feet or more away from others.

What about riding a bicycle outdoors? Is the risk of contracting or spreading COVID-19 greater than head injury risk, to justify the practice of wearing a face mask while riding a bicycle without a helmet?
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Re: So shoot me
« Reply #9 on: September 09, 2020, 07:33:02 PM »
What about riding a bicycle outdoors? Is the risk of contracting or spreading COVID-19 greater than head injury risk, to justify the practice of wearing a face mask while riding a bicycle without a helmet?
:) I see it alot all over BOS
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Re: So shoot me
« Reply #10 on: September 09, 2020, 08:18:34 PM »
:) I see it alot all over BOS

It's probably very common in all "progressive" and "liberal" areas.
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Re: So shoot me
« Reply #11 on: September 09, 2020, 08:41:41 PM »
What about riding a bicycle outdoors? Is the risk of contracting or spreading COVID-19 greater than head injury risk, to justify the practice of wearing a face mask while riding a bicycle without a helmet?

1) People should wear helmets while bike riding. Pointing out that a person is doing one thing wrong doesn't mean they are also wrong for doing another thing.

2) You're equating two different types of risk - risk to yourself (head injury) and potentially exponential risk to others (COVID-19). As another example, there's no hypocrisy in thinking its ok for you juggle flaming hammers and knives in your backyard (high risk of injury) while also not wanting you to knock over a line of people at the grocery store like dominoes (much lower risk of harm).

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Re: So shoot me
« Reply #12 on: September 09, 2020, 08:54:21 PM »
1) People should wear helmets while bike riding. Pointing out that a person is doing one thing wrong doesn't mean they are also wrong for doing another thing.

2) You're equating two different types of risk - risk to yourself (head injury) and potentially exponential risk to others (COVID-19). As another example, there's no hypocrisy in thinking its ok for you juggle flaming hammers and knives in your backyard (high risk of injury) while also not wanting you to knock over a line of people at the grocery store like dominoes (much lower risk of harm).

Plz dont juggle flaming whatever we had enough with wildfires

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Re: So shoot me
« Reply #13 on: September 09, 2020, 10:18:55 PM »
potentially exponential risk to others
What is your source for this while outdoors?
Just because things turned out a certain way doesn't mean you were right.

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Re: So shoot me
« Reply #14 on: September 09, 2020, 10:39:08 PM »
What is your source for this while outdoors?

I don't wear a mask (and do wear a helmet) while biking, assuming there aren't many people around. So I don't have a source, because I think it's probably fine.

Comment was only intended to explain the problems with the bizarre claim above, which used somebody's failure to wear a helmet as some sort of evidence that wearing a mask in those situations is wrong/hypocritical. The two types of risk are apples and oranges in terms of (i) who is being placed at risk - you or others (ii) degree of risk and (iii) potential ripple effects of that risk. Even if the risk of transmitting in this situation is minuscule, it's not hypocritical (some may reasonably even say it's admirable) to take precautions that serve to eliminate even a small risk to others that has a ripple effect. Definitely stupid not to wear a helmet though. 

But anyway, I'm driving this thread way off the rails... stay safe and stay considerate, everybody.