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Crown Heights as a COVID-19 lab
« on: September 09, 2020, 05:36:01 PM »
While many Jewish communities have common aspects of Jewish (social) living that probably helped spread COVID-19 back in March and April, I don't know if there's another community like Crown Heights, where hospitality and thousands of guests and visitors from all over the world are the norms.

During the Feb-Apr period it seems like anywhere between 60% and 80% of the community contracted the virus, and by this point everyone was likely exposed in some way or another to it.

In a regular year, there would be hundreds of Bochurim arriving by now, with a few hundred staying for the year in Yeshiva, and hundreds more coming only for Tishrei. And then you would have a few hundred married people coming for Sukkos. This year is different. We will only be able to say in retrospect how so.

About 150 bochurim arrived since late August with the intent of staying in 770 to learn for anywhere between 3 months to a year. A quarantine in CT was arranged for them, and ostensibly they were all tested for COVID-19 upon conclusion of the quarantine before coming to Crown Heights in recent days.

I just heard that apparently some of those that completed the quarantine have now tested positive for COVID-19 in Crown Heights.

This is a developing story.
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Re: Crown Heights as a COVID-19 lab
« Reply #3 on: September 09, 2020, 09:17:59 PM »
While many Jewish communities have common aspects of Jewish (social) living that probably helped spread COVID-19 back in March and April, I don't know if there's another community like Crown Heights, where hospitality and thousands of guests and visitors from all over the world are the norms.

During the Feb-Apr period it seems like anywhere between 60% and 80% of the community contracted the virus, and by this point everyone was likely exposed in some way or another to it.

In a regular year, there would be hundreds of Bochurim arriving by now, with a few hundred staying for the year in Yeshiva, and hundreds more coming only for Tishrei. And then you would have a few hundred married people coming for Sukkos. This year is different. We will only be able to say in retrospect how so.

About 150 bochurim arrived since late August with the intent of staying in 770 to learn for anywhere between 3 months to a year. A quarantine in CT was arranged for them, and ostensibly they were all tested for COVID-19 upon conclusion of the quarantine before coming to Crown Heights in recent days.

I just heard that apparently some of those that completed the quarantine have now tested positive for COVID-19 in Crown Heights.

This is a developing story.
I heard that the tests that they took at the end of quarantine came back today and 1 person had corona

Doesn't seem like anyone of them are going back to quarantine

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Re: Crown Heights as a COVID-19 lab
« Reply #4 on: September 09, 2020, 09:42:35 PM »
don't they suppose to quarantine in 1414?

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Re: Crown Heights as a COVID-19 lab
« Reply #5 on: September 09, 2020, 11:00:59 PM »
don't they suppose to quarantine in 1414?
No, they are only let into 1414 of they have proof they had it/antibodies.
They are staying elsewhere

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Re: Crown Heights as a COVID-19 lab
« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2020, 12:21:00 AM »


During the Feb-Apr period it seems like anywhere between 60% and 80% of the community contracted the virus, and by this point everyone was likely exposed in some way or another to it.


That's a ridiculously high number. I'm not a math guy, but the Gedalia Society was quite extensive and I don't think you get anywhere close to that number.
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Re: Crown Heights as a COVID-19 lab
« Reply #7 on: September 10, 2020, 10:23:39 AM »
That's a ridiculously high number. I'm not a math guy, but the Gedalia Society was quite extensive and I don't think you get anywhere close to that number.
https://covid19ch.blogspot.com/2020/05/covid-19-update28.html
70% of 25-65 y/o
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Responses to the survey continue to come in, and any numbers below will be updated as we obtain new information and as we continue to analyze. Based on the responses so far, it would seem that a little over 70% of those in the age group 25-65 has been sick with a COVID-like illness, while only approximately 55% of those above age 65 have reported a COVID-like illness.
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Re: Crown Heights as a COVID-19 lab
« Reply #8 on: September 10, 2020, 10:31:52 AM »
Just because things turned out a certain way doesn't mean you were right.

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Re: Crown Heights as a COVID-19 lab
« Reply #9 on: September 10, 2020, 10:36:55 AM »
And what percent fits into that demographic?
dunno.
In general, that post is probably the most coherent attempt at quantifying herd/heard immunity here

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Re: Crown Heights as a COVID-19 lab
« Reply #10 on: September 10, 2020, 01:12:35 PM »
https://covid19ch.blogspot.com/2020/05/covid-19-update28.html
70% of 25-65 y/o

That's including anyone who reported any symptom at all, of which there are many, including some as vague as "fatigue". The survey also is more likely to be taken by people with symptoms than those without.
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Re: Crown Heights as a COVID-19 lab
« Reply #11 on: September 10, 2020, 02:24:36 PM »
That's including anyone who reported any symptom at all, of which there are many, including some as vague as "fatigue". The survey also is more likely to be taken by people with symptoms than those without.
I wonder about this. People who havenít had symptoms are perhaps more likely to care enough to participate as they are presumably more vulnerable.
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Re: Crown Heights as a COVID-19 lab
« Reply #13 on: September 12, 2020, 08:21:21 PM »
770 tried having everyone wear a mask
Friday night 3/4 had a mask one
Shabbos day about half

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Re: Crown Heights as a COVID-19 lab
« Reply #14 on: September 12, 2020, 10:14:52 PM »
770 tried having everyone wear a mask
Friday night 3/4 had a mask one
Shabbos day about half

Mincha/maariv was about 10%-20%
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