Crown Heights as a COVID-19 lab

[Essen est zich]

So no guidance from the gedalia society this year?

[ExGingi]

I'm not sure if Ukraine is a typo and it's meant to say Uzbekistan, or if there are more details here.

https://crownheights.info/chabad-news/741221/multiple-covid-cases-arrive-back-from-ukraine-on-chof-av-chartered-flight/

If indeed the chartered flight brought back COVID-19, I wonder what that says about the 3 day prior to flight COVID test requirement. I think these people might have tested in the US prior to departure and had their tests valid for the return. Alternatively, they could have all tested upon landing in Uzbekistan and had it valid for the return.

[AsherO]

I'm not sure if Ukraine is a typo and it's meant to say Uzbekistan, or if there are more details here.

https://crownheights.info/chabad-news/741221/multiple-covid-cases-arrive-back-from-ukraine-on-chof-av-chartered-flight/

If indeed the chartered flight brought back COVID-19, I wonder what that says about the 3 day prior to flight COVID test requirement. I think these people might have tested in the US prior to departure and had their tests valid for the return. Alternatively, they could have all tested upon landing in Uzbekistan and had it valid for the return.

Or they got special treatment and skirted the testing requirements.

Thanks for posting this, I came here to ask about an uptick in crown heights, it seems more people are masking up.

[Essen est zich]

I'm not surprised that the other 2 sites didn't cover this. I'm wondering who this leaked memo is as well...

[Mf1]

A relative was at their pcp in CH and was told by one of the pa's there that in a number of the CH overnight camps there were a few cases.

[Yehuda57]

A relative was at their pcp in CH and was told by one of the pa's there that in a number of the CH overnight camps there were a few cases.

I have no doubt that it will sweep through every camp and only a fraction of those that catch it will even know about it.

[AsherO]

I have no doubt that it will sweep through every camp and only a fraction of those that catch it will even know about it.

Fine for kids/teens. I’m worried about older unvaccinated people who will ch”v get reinfected 1.5 years after their first infection.

[Yehuda57]

Fine for kids/teens. I’m worried about older unvaccinated people who will ch”v get reinfected 1.5 years after their first infection.

I'm not saying it's a good thing they're getting infected, I'm just stating my opinion on what the metziis is. Though if they get it in overnight camps, they will have immunity when they come back home to the grandparents. Day camps are a bigger problem.

I'm also curious about the vaccination rate of the elderly, anecdotally, it's quite high. I hope that is representative

[AsherO]

I'm not saying it's a good thing they're getting infected, I'm just stating my opinion on what the metziis is. Though if they get it in overnight camps, they will have immunity when they come back home to the grandparents.

If some teens will recover from an asymptomatic infection in camp, others might catch it from them and come home to said grandparents with an asymptomatic infection.

I'm also curious about the vaccination rate of the elderly, anecdotally, it's quite high. I hope that is representative

Curious as well. I share your hopes.

[ExGingi]

Or they got special treatment and skirted the testing requirements.

Thanks for posting this, I came here to ask about an uptick in crown heights, it seems more people are masking up.

I confirmed yesterday with someone that was on the chartererd flight. They all got tested in US prior to leaving for re-entry into the US. Everyone was swabbed in their own home or office as part of the package price.

[Yaalili]

Or they got special treatment and skirted the testing requirements.

This.. based on knowledge from people on the flight.

[Yaalili]

I confirmed yesterday with someone that was on the chartererd flight. They all got tested in US prior to leaving for re-entry into the US. Everyone was swabbed in their own home or office as part of the package price.

Everyone did have to get “tested” but it was one of those that come back always “negative” was my understanding from some on the flight.

[ExGingi]

Everyone did have to get “tested” but it was one of those that come back always “negative” was my understanding from some on the flight.

I don't know about always coming back negative. Based on what I was told by someone who was on the flight, it was rather superficial. That being said, IME the tests administered upon landing in TLV are also very superficial.

But that is totally irrelevant. Supposedly exposure might have occurred in Almaty, with people from all over the world in attendance and large crowds coming together. A test administered in the US prior to departure would do nothing to detect a virus that was picked up in Almaty from someone arriving from elsewhere. And no regulations were skirted. A PCR test was conducted 3 days prior to departure from Almaty back to the US!

[whYME]

I'm not sure if Ukraine is a typo and it's meant to say Uzbekistan, or if there are more details here.

https://crownheights.info/chabad-news/741221/multiple-covid-cases-arrive-back-from-ukraine-on-chof-av-chartered-flight/

If indeed the chartered flight brought back COVID-19, I wonder what that says about the 3 day prior to flight COVID test requirement. I think these people might have tested in the US prior to departure and had their tests valid for the return. Alternatively, they could have all tested upon landing in Uzbekistan and had it valid for the return.

I assume Uzbekistan is a typo and you meant to say Kazakhstan? Or am i missing something here?

[ExGingi]

I assume Uzbekistan is a typo and you meant to say Kazakhstan? Or am i missing something here?

You are absolutely right. Uzbekistan was on my mind for a while, as my son was hoping to go there on Merkos Shlichus.

Almaty is indeed in Kazakhstan.

[Lurker]

I confirmed yesterday with someone that was on the chartererd flight. They all got tested in US prior to leaving for re-entry into the US. Everyone was swabbed in their own home or office as part of the package price.

Did the people on this flight interact with the shluchim at the kinnus which was happening there at the same time?

[gozalim]

Did the people on this flight interact with the shluchim at the kinnus which was happening there at the same time?

from what I heard there was about an hour overlap. flight group left about an hour after the shluchim arrived.
pan kloli was the overlap

[Lurker]

from what I heard there was about an hour overlap. flight group left about an hour after the shluchim arrived.
pan kloli was the overlap

BH. Not fantastic, but could have been much worse. Not that anyone is going to learn anything from this, but the blasé attitude towards a simple Covid test could have caused outbreaks in tens of Jewish communities, and in places with less than optimal healthcare to boot. The irony of going to Reb Levik's ohel giving no regard to anyone else....

[Essen est zich]

Does anyone know what the covid situation is in ch? Now that camps are back and bochurim are in town...

[AsherO]

Does anyone know what the covid situation is in ch? Now that camps are back and bochurim are in town...

I don't know that people will know if they have the new variant, but yes, I know a number of people who tested positive over the past couple of weeks in:
Monsey
Flatbush
Crown Heights
Great Neck
My pediatrician in Crown Heights sent out a notice that Delta is spreading through frum communities including Crown Heights.
Plenty of reports on DDF that cases are rising in Lakewood.

So yeah, it's real and it's here. Get vaccinated.