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Re: Crown Heights as a COVID-19 lab
« Reply #660 on: December 21, 2021, 05:23:50 PM »
and SCB is also known antivax?
Don't know, don't particularly care. AFAIK, as far as communal rabanus goes, he answers taharas hamishpacha questions. Not like people who are unsure about vaccines are running to anyone on that panel, which didn't include any of the CH Beis Din Rabanim, but did include a sofer, chiropractor, and chosson teacher.

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Re: Crown Heights as a COVID-19 lab
« Reply #661 on: December 21, 2021, 06:24:01 PM »
a sofer, chiropractor, and chosson teacher.
This sounds like the beginning of a joke

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Re: Crown Heights as a COVID-19 lab
« Reply #662 on: December 21, 2021, 06:27:34 PM »
This sounds like the beginning of a joke
unfortunately we're deep into the middle

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Re: Crown Heights as a COVID-19 lab
« Reply #663 on: December 21, 2021, 08:36:12 PM »
Don't know, don't particularly care. AFAIK, as far as communal rabanus goes, he answers taharas hamishpacha questions. Not like people who are unsure about vaccines are running to anyone on that panel, which didn't include any of the CH Beis Din Rabanim, but did include a sofer, chiropractor, and chosson teacher.
People are concerned about taharas hamishpacha issues that (may) arise from the vaccine, as well as fertility issues. Besides for dealing with such shailos, SCB is also considered a non-political Rov with no agendas and bias, as well as a mench (a bit uncommon in the rabbonus).

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Re: Crown Heights as a COVID-19 lab
« Reply #664 on: December 21, 2021, 08:38:15 PM »
People are concerned about taharas hamishpacha issues that (may) arise from the vaccine, as well as fertility issues.
::)

Call R' SBC if you want a taharas mishpacha Rov with no agendas.
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Re: Crown Heights as a COVID-19 lab
« Reply #665 on: December 21, 2021, 08:52:19 PM »
People are concerned about taharas hamishpacha issues that (may) arise from the vaccine, as well as fertility issues. Besides for dealing with such shailos, SCB is also considered a non-political Rov with no agendas and bias, as well as a mench (a bit uncommon in the rabbonus).
My only interaction with the rabbi was back when I was in yeshiva, and indeed he seemed like a talmid chacham of impeccable character, a most eidel, respectable mentch.

Intresting that those worried about the taharas hamishpacha implications of the vaccine weren't that concerned about the range implications from covid, which, anecdotally, are equal or worse than the vaccine effects.

And the fertility stuff is not based on anything, as discussed in other threads. What is noteworthy is that mumps carries fertility risks as well, and the anti vaxxers were loudly silent about that concern during the mumps outbreak a few years back.

Be all that as it may, what is to be gained from being on a panel with presentations made by a cavalcade of clowns without presentations from the other side of the debate? These presenters are selected and paid for by people with a clearly stated agenda, it's hardly an unbiased look at the facts for the benefit of the community.

It seems clear that either R' SCB (and perhaps others) agree with the other panelists in their anti vax stance, and were there to have their priors confirmed, or they were convinced into joining to give the presentation a veneer of respectability.

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Re: Crown Heights as a COVID-19 lab
« Reply #666 on: December 21, 2021, 08:59:50 PM »
My only interaction with the rabbi was back when I was in yeshiva, and indeed he seemed like a talmid chacham of impeccable character, a most eidel, respectable mentch.

Intresting that those worried about the taharas hamishpacha implications of the vaccine weren't that concerned about the range implications from covid, which, anecdotally, are equal or worse than the vaccine effects.

And the fertility stuff is not based on anything, as discussed in other threads. What is noteworthy is that mumps carries fertility risks as well, and the anti vaxxers were loudly silent about that concern during the mumps outbreak a few years back.

Be all that as it may, what is to be gained from being on a panel with presentations made by a cavalcade of clowns without presentations from the other side of the debate? These presenters are selected and paid for by people with a clearly stated agenda, it's hardly an unbiased look at the facts for the benefit of the community.

It seems clear that either R' SCB (and perhaps others) agree with the other panelists in their anti vax stance, and were there to have their priors confirmed, or they were convinced into joining to give the presentation a veneer of respectability.
you and I know not to worry about the TH 'fears' of the vaccine. But among the 'hesitant' population, the biggest 'hit' is his inclusion in that list, unfortunately

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Re: Crown Heights as a COVID-19 lab
« Reply #667 on: December 21, 2021, 09:00:42 PM »
Did he even say anything about vaccines?

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Re: Crown Heights as a COVID-19 lab
« Reply #668 on: December 21, 2021, 09:02:54 PM »
Did he even say anything about vaccines?
I've never seen him make public pronouncements of any kind. At most I imagine it could inform his answers to individuals.
But I'm looking forward (not) to certain people citing his participation in that event as some kind of 'proof'

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Re: Crown Heights as a COVID-19 lab
« Reply #669 on: December 21, 2021, 09:04:15 PM »
My only interaction with the rabbi was back when I was in yeshiva, and indeed he seemed like a talmid chacham of impeccable character, a most eidel, respectable mentch.

Intresting that those worried about the taharas hamishpacha implications of the vaccine weren't that concerned about the range implications from covid, which, anecdotally, are equal or worse than the vaccine effects.

And the fertility stuff is not based on anything, as discussed in other threads. What is noteworthy is that mumps carries fertility risks as well, and the anti vaxxers were loudly silent about that concern during the mumps outbreak a few years back.

Be all that as it may, what is to be gained from being on a panel with presentations made by a cavalcade of clowns without presentations from the other side of the debate? These presenters are selected and paid for by people with a clearly stated agenda, it's hardly an unbiased look at the facts for the benefit of the community.

It seems clear that either R' SCB (and perhaps others) agree with the other panelists in their anti vax stance, and were there to have their priors confirmed, or they were convinced into joining to give the presentation a veneer of respectability.
Don't know the Rabbi in questions, but +1 to most of that. However being on that board is clearly taking a stance and giving the movement legitimacy. That's the only possible answer to what can be gained.
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Re: Crown Heights as a COVID-19 lab
« Reply #670 on: December 21, 2021, 09:05:50 PM »
a sofer, chiropractor, and chosson teacher.
This sounds like the beginning of a joke
A sofer, a chiropractor, and a chosson teacher are sitting in a bar.

Sofer: “I hate when people meet me outside of work and ask me an opinion on a klaf. I spend so many hours on my craft, for the few minutes I have to relax there’s someone shoving parchment in my face. There’s nothing more annoying!”

Chiropractor: “You think you have it bad? I have people asking me for advice at events all the time. Imagine a guy comes up to you in public and insists on shoving his back in your face to ask if there’s anything wrong. There’s nothing more mortifying!”

Chosson Rebbi: “You think you have it bad?”
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Re: Crown Heights as a COVID-19 lab
« Reply #671 on: December 21, 2021, 10:09:34 PM »
who else was on the panel?

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Re: Crown Heights as a COVID-19 lab
« Reply #672 on: December 21, 2021, 10:15:54 PM »
Thanks for helping me practice אתכפיא. As much as you've piqued my interest I won't visit that website to satisfy it.
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Re: Crown Heights as a COVID-19 lab
« Reply #673 on: December 21, 2021, 10:17:06 PM »
Thanks for helping me practice אתכפיא. As much as you've piqued my interest I won't visit that website to satisfy it.
im popping here. just blocked it from phone and PC last night...

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Re: Crown Heights as a COVID-19 lab
« Reply #674 on: December 21, 2021, 10:35:42 PM »
who else was on the panel?
Someone mentioned to me, that all the ch rabanim were represented there

R heller son in law, one of R broin protiges, R osdoba son

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Re: Crown Heights as a COVID-19 lab
« Reply #675 on: December 21, 2021, 10:42:15 PM »
Someone mentioned to me, that all the ch rabanim were represented there

R heller son in law, one of R broin protiges, R osdoba son

thats what i thought. so basically definitely the middle one on your list would never have gone without permission, and i would safely assume that in the eyes of THE rov this is his way of saying that he heard "the other side" and still feel that people should vax.
the others didn't necessarily represent anyone

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Re: Crown Heights as a COVID-19 lab
« Reply #676 on: December 21, 2021, 10:56:26 PM »
IINM this thing happened almost a month ago

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Re: Crown Heights as a COVID-19 lab
« Reply #677 on: December 21, 2021, 11:17:21 PM »
was the event sponsored by that website, in an attempt to generate controversy clicks?

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Re: Crown Heights as a COVID-19 lab
« Reply #678 on: December 21, 2021, 11:55:05 PM »
IINM this thing happened almost a month ago
Correct, I'm wondering why it took a long time for the websites to post it

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Re: Crown Heights as a COVID-19 lab
« Reply #679 on: December 21, 2021, 11:55:14 PM »
was the event sponsored by that website, in an attempt to generate controversy clicks?
No