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Re: Crown Heights as a COVID-19 lab
« Reply #120 on: September 13, 2020, 10:58:54 PM »
here's what I was referring to
At least one or two infections are in people who have never previously been ill, but who have previously been extensively exposed  while helping take care of others in their family at home who had been ill. This is worrisome because we had hoped that such a high degree of exposure in the home would mean that their body “saw the virus” in some unmeasurable way, and would recognise it again with an immunological response, but this is now called into question.

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Re: Crown Heights as a COVID-19 lab
« Reply #121 on: September 13, 2020, 11:00:30 PM »
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Re: Crown Heights as a COVID-19 lab
« Reply #122 on: September 13, 2020, 11:04:50 PM »
A little more than zero but not much.
so the 90% 'exposure' rate means very little.
The 70% infection rate should mean something. though by now, even if it was that high, it's been 'diluted' since...

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Re: Crown Heights as a COVID-19 lab
« Reply #123 on: September 13, 2020, 11:06:21 PM »
so the 90% 'exposure' rate means very little.
The 70% infection rate should mean something. though by now, even if it was that high, it's been 'diluted' since...
Or everyone thought they had it when really many fewer did, or it was a biased sample who actually got tested for antibodies, or a number of false positives for antibodies etc.

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Re: Crown Heights as a COVID-19 lab
« Reply #124 on: September 13, 2020, 11:06:25 PM »

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Re: Crown Heights as a COVID-19 lab
« Reply #125 on: September 13, 2020, 11:08:06 PM »
Or everyone thought they had it when really many fewer did, or it was a biased sample who actually got tested for antibodies, or a number of false positives for antibodies etc.

I was thinking about that also, How many people felt like they had it based on symptoms and never got tested for antibodies?

Or maybe the antibodies were based on some other stuff ?

Wasn't there multiple versions of the virus ? From my understanding you can get both of them

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Re: Crown Heights as a COVID-19 lab
« Reply #126 on: September 13, 2020, 11:08:57 PM »
From my understanding you can get both of them
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Re: Crown Heights as a COVID-19 lab
« Reply #127 on: September 13, 2020, 11:10:35 PM »
I was thinking about that also, How many people felt like they had it based on symptoms and never got tested for antibodies?

Or maybe the antibodies were based on some other stuff ?

Wasn't there multiple versions of the virus ? From my understanding you can get both of them
I don't want to go down the can of worms that is the antibody testing, as it seems in most places, so far there are no confirmed cases being reported of those with antibodies.

Therefore, more likely than not that people extrapolated "herd immunity" from a skewed sample of the population.

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Re: Crown Heights as a COVID-19 lab
« Reply #128 on: September 13, 2020, 11:12:34 PM »
I don't want to go down the can of worms that is the antibody testing, as it seems in most places, so far there are no confirmed cases being reported of those with antibodies.

Therefore, more likely than not that people extrapolated "herd immunity" from a skewed sample of the population.
If the antibodies only last a bit longer than 6 months, and the virus is already spreading at an accelerated pace, then it's pretty bad news.

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Re: Crown Heights as a COVID-19 lab
« Reply #129 on: September 13, 2020, 11:17:04 PM »
If the antibodies only last a bit longer than 6 months, and the virus is already spreading at an accelerated pace, then it's pretty bad news.

That is what was supposed to happen was with people were supposed to create a bubble where the virus wasn't growing, it didn't happen.


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Re: Crown Heights as a COVID-19 lab
« Reply #130 on: September 13, 2020, 11:23:22 PM »
link?

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-reinfection-hong-kong-man-different-strain/

There seems to be six different strains of the Coronavirus.

There is no actual solid data weather getting one strain protects you against the other.

Just as you can get multiple strains of flu or cold.

on the other hand studies are showing that some t cell immunity exists from other prior viruses.

My point is, we don't know and everyone is different

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Re: Crown Heights as a COVID-19 lab
« Reply #131 on: September 13, 2020, 11:24:45 PM »
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-reinfection-hong-kong-man-different-strain/

There seems to be six different strains of the Coronavirus.

There is no actual solid data weather getting one strain protects you against the other.

Just as you can get multiple strains of flu or cold.

on the other hand studies are showing that some t cell immunity exists from other prior viruses.

My point is, we don't know and everyone is different
don't think there's been any documented example of someone getting 'both' strains (any more than the 5-10 cases of 'reinfection' globally. and nobody seems to be suggesting that explanation there)

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Re: Crown Heights as a COVID-19 lab
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Re: Crown Heights as a COVID-19 lab
« Reply #133 on: September 14, 2020, 08:54:26 AM »
Just to put things into perspective, the following is from just one company I sell, and an overwhelming majority of those were for bochurim coming to Crown Heights (or the Ohel).



Getting a bunch of cancellatios this morning. Some yeshiva disallowed their talmidim from traveling, while separately some bochurim had to postpone their flights due to quarantine requirement due to exposure to a positive COVID-19.
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