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Re: Crown Heights as a COVID-19 lab
« Reply #150 on: September 14, 2020, 08:28:16 PM »
The supply of masks is welcome. Finally, there's an alternative to the hand dryer torture.
Is this another side effect of Covid-19?  ;D

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Re: Crown Heights as a COVID-19 lab
« Reply #151 on: September 14, 2020, 09:49:02 PM »
I was just in 770 for maariv by the Rebbe's minyan, from what I can see I would say mask usage was something like 85%, although of those probably 20% weren't covering their nose etc.

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Re: Crown Heights as a COVID-19 lab
« Reply #152 on: September 14, 2020, 09:50:08 PM »
The bocher in ot that tested positive yesterday on a rapid test, today came back the longer test as negative
All that for nothing, nunu

The whole yeshiva got tested today and took antibody test

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Re: Crown Heights as a COVID-19 lab
« Reply #153 on: September 15, 2020, 01:09:51 AM »
The bocher in ot that tested positive yesterday on a rapid test, today came back the longer test as negative
All that for nothing, nunu

That sentence can be said over and over millions of times over the last six months.

But then again, when we do things for ספק פיקוח נפש is it considered "for nothing"?
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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Re: Crown Heights as a COVID-19 lab
« Reply #154 on: September 15, 2020, 01:14:19 AM »
The bocher in ot that tested positive yesterday on a rapid test, today came back the longer test as negative
All that for nothing, nunu

The whole yeshiva got tested today and took antibody test
Rumor has it that other bocherim have tested positive by now
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Re: Crown Heights as a COVID-19 lab
« Reply #155 on: September 15, 2020, 02:21:27 AM »
Is this another side effect of Covid-19?  ;D
I was actually toying with the idea of sponsoring paper towels for weekdays during Tishrei, but I guess it's no longer needed.
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Re: Crown Heights as a COVID-19 lab
« Reply #156 on: September 15, 2020, 02:36:32 PM »
https://anash.org/770-to-remain-open-for-rosh-hashana/

Interesting twist: the Rov would like 770 to be closed, but is deferring to the doctors who believe it is safer to keep it open.
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Re: Crown Heights as a COVID-19 lab
« Reply #157 on: September 15, 2020, 03:13:09 PM »
https://anash.org/770-to-remain-open-for-rosh-hashana/

Interesting twist: the Rov would like 770 to be closed, but is deferring to the doctors who believe it is safer to keep it open.
Stam interesting, the rovs father in law is walking around in 770 with no mask
Nunu

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Re: Crown Heights as a COVID-19 lab
« Reply #158 on: September 15, 2020, 03:21:55 PM »
Stam,

The rov said to listen to the doctors, besides dr rosen and the gedalia society there are other doctors in ch and at least one of them has said that makes don't help
If I don't wear a mask I'm still following the rov bc I'm listening to a dr

What makes dr rosen and the gedalia society expert dr in corona virus? That's not there field
Dr rosen is a pediatrician and the person who is in charge of the gedalia society I believe is either a radiologist or anesthesiologist
Just like in other fields, for example law I don't go to a divorce lawyer for bankruptcy, so too by Corona it should work like that

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Re: Crown Heights as a COVID-19 lab
« Reply #159 on: September 15, 2020, 03:33:06 PM »
Stam,

The rov said to listen to the doctors, besides dr rosen and the gedalia society there are other doctors in ch and at least one of them has said that makes don't help
If I don't wear a mask I'm still following the rov bc I'm listening to a dr

What makes dr rosen and the gedalia society expert dr in corona virus? That's not there field
Dr rosen is a pediatrician and the person who is in charge of the gedalia society I believe is either a radiologist or anesthesiologist
Just like in other fields, for example law I don't go to a divorce lawyer for bankruptcy, so too by Corona it should work like that

Stam, you want to drei a kop, you can find a way to eat pork on Yom Kippur, too. Used to be a bunch of guys in Thailand that made a whole yomtov out of it.

Gedaliah Society is in close contact and guided by Dr. Avi Rosenberg of Johns Hopkins. He's been dealing with Covid since Jan in Italy. Not that it matters, because you're gonna do what you want to do.
When you find yourself agreeing with me more often than not, it's time for a cheshbon hanefesh.

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Re: Crown Heights as a COVID-19 lab
« Reply #160 on: September 15, 2020, 03:34:59 PM »
Stam,

The rov said to listen to the doctors, besides dr rosen and the gedalia society there are other doctors in ch and at least one of them has said that makes don't help
If I don't wear a mask I'm still following the rov bc I'm listening to a dr

What makes dr rosen and the gedalia society expert dr in corona virus? That's not there field
Dr rosen is a pediatrician and the person who is in charge of the gedalia society I believe is either a radiologist or anesthesiologist
Just like in other fields, for example law I don't go to a divorce lawyer for bankruptcy, so too by Corona it should work like that
Same as ditchek in Flatbush, generally the ones who make the most noise are not the most knowledgeable in that particular area.


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Re: Crown Heights as a COVID-19 lab
« Reply #161 on: September 15, 2020, 03:36:28 PM »
Stam interesting, the rovs father in law is walking around in 770 with no mask
Nunu
dunno that he takes orders from anyone... or that he can be kept from 770 for any length of time (mor than @ExGingi if you can imagine that)...
Stam,

The rov said to listen to the doctors, besides dr rosen and the gedalia society there are other doctors in ch and at least one of them has said that makes don't help
If I don't wear a mask I'm still following the rov bc I'm listening to a dr

What makes dr rosen and the gedalia society expert dr in corona virus? That's not there field
Dr rosen is a pediatrician and the person who is in charge of the gedalia society I believe is either a radiologist or anesthesiologist
Just like in other fields, for example law I don't go to a divorce lawyer for bankruptcy, so too by Corona it should work like that
אה"נ
as others here have said 'follow your rov', similarly here, follow your own רופא ידיד.
the benefit that he/they have is possibly:
*larger number of patients so bigger data pool
*the benefit of multiple people/professionals able to pool their energy and expertise on the topic
*they seem to be collecting data in coordination with hatzalah as well as the other local practices

and possibly העיקר
they're actually making statements on record.giving guidance beyond their own patients. so for public 'leadership' it's kinda the only voice there is

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Re: Crown Heights as a COVID-19 lab
« Reply #162 on: September 15, 2020, 04:00:30 PM »
Stam,

The rov said to listen to the doctors, besides dr rosen and the gedalia society there are other doctors in ch and at least one of them has said that makes don't help
If I don't wear a mask I'm still following the rov bc I'm listening to a dr

What makes dr rosen and the gedalia society expert dr in corona virus? That's not there field
Dr rosen is a pediatrician and the person who is in charge of the gedalia society I believe is either a radiologist or anesthesiologist
Just like in other fields, for example law I don't go to a divorce lawyer for bankruptcy, so too by Corona it should work like that

Dr Rosen is not only a pediatrician.
The Gedalia Society is made up of dozens of medical professionals in many specialties.
The person who you are referring to is a radiologist, and he'll be the first to tell you you shouldn't listen to rules if he was the one to make them. But he's not making trash up. He's given of his life for months now for nothing. He's not a community doctor. He's not even remotely responsible to do any of this. No other community in the world had what we had with the Gedalia Society. There's no exaggerating what an incredible impact he has made on the lives of thousands, and who is to know how many lives have been saved thanks to him and his co-society volunteers.
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Re: Crown Heights as a COVID-19 lab
« Reply #163 on: September 15, 2020, 08:02:36 PM »
Stam,

The rov said to listen to the doctors, besides dr rosen and the gedalia society there are other doctors in ch and at least one of them has said that makes don't help
If I don't wear a mask I'm still following the rov bc I'm listening to a dr

What makes dr rosen and the gedalia society expert dr in corona virus? That's not there field
Dr rosen is a pediatrician and the person who is in charge of the gedalia society I believe is either a radiologist or anesthesiologist
Just like in other fields, for example law I don't go to a divorce lawyer for bankruptcy, so too by Corona it should work like that

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Re: Crown Heights as a COVID-19 lab
« Reply #164 on: September 15, 2020, 08:04:13 PM »
https://anash.org/770-to-remain-open-for-rosh-hashana/

Interesting twist: the Rov would like 770 to be closed, but is deferring to the doctors who believe it is safer to keep it open.
what happened to: "i'm not a doctor, listen to what they say"? how does he even have an opinion that 770 should be closed?
Bichlal, the only thing that's clear, is that he's not making himself clear.