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Re: Crown Heights as a COVID-19 lab
« Reply #260 on: October 07, 2020, 10:35:27 AM »
Yellow isn't for areas close to 3%, it's for areas around the red zones to that people can't just go to the next block over.

How does that work in Rockland? There are no red zones, only Orange and yellow.

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Re: Crown Heights as a COVID-19 lab
« Reply #261 on: October 07, 2020, 10:37:03 AM »
How does that work in Rockland? There are no red zones, only Orange and yellow.
According to ny.gov it's red and yellow. I don't understand it.
https://www.governor.ny.gov/news/governor-cuomo-announces-new-cluster-action-initiative#initiativemaps
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Re: Crown Heights as a COVID-19 lab
« Reply #262 on: October 07, 2020, 11:56:51 AM »
All they are doing IMHO is having mass testing by people who got it prior.

Way to skew the numbers and bring the positivity rate down

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Re: Crown Heights as a COVID-19 lab
« Reply #263 on: October 07, 2020, 12:54:02 PM »
All they are doing IMHO is having mass testing by people who got it prior.

Way to skew the numbers and bring the positivity rate down
They use an inaccurate metric and you're surprised people are messing with it?
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Re: Crown Heights as a COVID-19 lab
« Reply #264 on: October 07, 2020, 06:38:30 PM »
Set up a system that is easy to game and you are asking for people to game it.
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Re: Crown Heights as a COVID-19 lab
« Reply #265 on: October 07, 2020, 06:41:34 PM »
Set up a system that is easy to game and you are asking for people to game it.
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Re: Crown Heights as a COVID-19 lab
« Reply #266 on: October 07, 2020, 06:44:19 PM »

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Re: Crown Heights as a COVID-19 lab
« Reply #267 on: October 07, 2020, 06:47:10 PM »
FWIW if asymptomatic people run to get tested they may pick up extra positives (false or otherwise) and skew the numbers the other way. Who knows!
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Re: Crown Heights as a COVID-19 lab
« Reply #268 on: October 07, 2020, 06:48:53 PM »
The Gedaliah Society is on board
https://collive.com/gedaliah-society-clarifies-on-community-covid-testing/

No reason not to be. Did you notice the difference in language between the CH call to test and other places? Pretty big deal...
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Re: Crown Heights as a COVID-19 lab
« Reply #269 on: October 07, 2020, 06:49:04 PM »
FWIW if asymptomatic people run to get tested they may pick up extra positives (false or otherwise) and skew the numbers the other way. Who knows!
Which would also be a good thing since they would no longer be spreading to others unless they are COVIDiots
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Re: Crown Heights as a COVID-19 lab
« Reply #270 on: October 07, 2020, 06:50:36 PM »
Which would also be a good thing since they would no longer be spreading to others unless they are COVIDiots
Right
But it would be rather inconvenient for the false positives.
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Re: Crown Heights as a COVID-19 lab
« Reply #271 on: October 07, 2020, 06:50:58 PM »
FWIW if asymptomatic people run to get tested they may pick up extra positives (false or otherwise) and skew the numbers the other way. Who knows!
They are looking to lower the percent positive number. There are obviously a higher  percentage of positives among symptomatic people than non symptomatic so it can only help.

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Re: Crown Heights as a COVID-19 lab
« Reply #272 on: October 07, 2020, 06:51:56 PM »
FWIW if asymptomatic people run to get tested they may pick up extra positives (false or otherwise) and skew the numbers the other way. Who knows!

This is definitely a factor in the doctors signing off. If they can get all the presymptomatic people off the streets before Simchas Torah, mah tov u'mah naim.
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Re: Crown Heights as a COVID-19 lab
« Reply #273 on: October 07, 2020, 06:52:55 PM »
Right
But it would be rather inconvenient for the false positives.
I don't think those are as common as some here make it seem.
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Re: Crown Heights as a COVID-19 lab
« Reply #274 on: October 07, 2020, 06:53:54 PM »
I don't think those are as common as some here make it seem.
I wouldn't know. By false positives do we refer both to people who were not sick, and also to people who were sick a few weeks ago and are no longer contagious?
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Re: Crown Heights as a COVID-19 lab
« Reply #275 on: October 07, 2020, 06:54:59 PM »
They are looking to lower the percent positive number. There are obviously a higher  percentage of positives among symptomatic people than non symptomatic so it can only help.
I don't think this is clear cut at all. When there's a rampant outbreak of a disease which can have very mild symptoms and pre-symptomatic positives, I think this is a huge gamble and may lead to a even bigger spike.

To be fair, to achieve what they want in the timeline that they wish (lower positivity rate within the next week), they don't really have another choice.

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Re: Crown Heights as a COVID-19 lab
« Reply #276 on: October 07, 2020, 06:57:42 PM »
and also to people who were sick a few weeks ago and are no longer contagious?

How would anyone know whether or not they are no longer contagious?
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Re: Crown Heights as a COVID-19 lab
« Reply #277 on: October 07, 2020, 06:59:00 PM »
I don't think this is clear cut at all. When there's a rampant outbreak of a disease which can have very mild symptoms and pre-symptomatic positives, I think this is a huge gamble and may lead to a even bigger spike.

To be fair, to achieve what they want in the timeline that they wish (lower positivity rate within the next week), they don't really have another choice.
You believe that a random sampling of 100 symptomatic people and another sampling of 100 healthy people will yield an identical percent positive? I find that hard to accept.

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Re: Crown Heights as a COVID-19 lab
« Reply #278 on: October 07, 2020, 07:01:14 PM »
I don't think those are as common as some here make it seem.
For my family we had 3/7 have false positives 2 months after contracting it.
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Re: Crown Heights as a COVID-19 lab
« Reply #279 on: October 07, 2020, 07:01:18 PM »
You believe that a random sampling of 100 symptomatic people and another sampling of 100 healthy people will yield an identical percent positive? I find that hard to accept.
Given a large enough sample size (they're going for thousands of test, not hundreds), I believe that there's a decent chance that it could cause a spike. Not saying that it's definite, rather that it's a gamble and not a no brained.