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Re: Crown Heights as a COVID-19 lab
« Reply #280 on: October 07, 2020, 07:01:49 PM »
How would anyone know whether or not they are no longer contagious?
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Re: Crown Heights as a COVID-19 lab
« Reply #281 on: October 07, 2020, 07:03:47 PM »
FWIW if asymptomatic people run to get tested they may pick up extra positives (false or otherwise) and skew the numbers the other way. Who knows!

It will undoubtedly get a few positive results. If a testing drive designed only for healthy people gets more than 3% that's a serous issue and shutdowns are probably warranted.

Even if it raises rates in the short-term it should lower them in the medium-term because those people will, hopefully act responsibly and, isolate thus slowing the spread. In the long-term we all die.

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Re: Crown Heights as a COVID-19 lab
« Reply #282 on: October 07, 2020, 07:06:20 PM »
Given a large enough sample size (they're going for thousands of test, not hundreds), I believe that there's a decent chance that it could cause a spike. Not saying that it's definite, rather that it's a gamble and not a no brained.
From what I understand, and the Igud harabbanim robo call that just went out spelled this out birachel bitcha haketana, (especially in Lakewood) the governor told askanim he needs a lower percent positivity- it’s over 20% right now-to give him political cover. He doesn’t care so much about the raw number. Therefore  it can only help to test the non symptomatic.You are talking about absolute numbers but that is not the focus.

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Re: Crown Heights as a COVID-19 lab
« Reply #283 on: October 07, 2020, 07:06:47 PM »
Just important to spell something out here: the CH drive specifically asks symptomatic people to get tested, as well, just not at the main location. They ask that symptomatic people contact their local doctors for testing options. They may be trying to skew the numbers, but without compromising anyone's health and safety.
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Re: Crown Heights as a COVID-19 lab
« Reply #284 on: October 07, 2020, 07:07:54 PM »
Given a large enough sample size (they're going for thousands of test, not hundreds), I believe that there's a decent chance that it could cause a spike. Not saying that it's definite, rather that it's a gamble and not a no brained.

CH is not going to get thousands of people to test. Would be a lot if they hit 1k

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Re: Crown Heights as a COVID-19 lab
« Reply #285 on: October 07, 2020, 07:11:09 PM »
CH is not going to get thousands of people to test. Would be a lot if they hit 1k
Good point. Was thinking of Lakewood.

Plus CH probably is less of a risk given the percentage of people with antibodies.

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Re: Crown Heights as a COVID-19 lab
« Reply #286 on: October 07, 2020, 07:19:04 PM »
My question is, the official rules are that just 2 positives in a school closes the school. Even if the rate drops, wouldn't there almost certainly be a few positives which would effectively shut the schools?

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Re: Crown Heights as a COVID-19 lab
« Reply #287 on: October 07, 2020, 07:20:40 PM »
My question is, the official rules are that just 2 positives in a school closes the school. Even if the rate drops, wouldn't there almost certainly be a few positives which would effectively shut the schools?
Then they should have done this the day after Y"K :)
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Re: Crown Heights as a COVID-19 lab
« Reply #288 on: October 07, 2020, 07:30:06 PM »
Right
But it would be rather inconvenient for the false positives.
There aren’t really very many false positives, though there are quite a large number of false negatives. If you’ve had the virus fairly recently and know that you aren’t contagious anymore you probably shouldn’t test
You believe that a random sampling of 100 symptomatic people and another sampling of 100 healthy people will yield an identical percent positive? I find that hard to accept.
I’m it saying I agree (I don’t) but if the spread is occurring faster than we are detecting it then it’s plausible
For my family we had 3/7 have false positives 2 months after contracting it.
That’s not a false positive, that’s a very sensitive test. A false positive would be if the test detects virus particle in someone does not have the virus inside of their nose.

If you’ve had COVID in this wave, you should probably not be joining the ranks of those testing to lower the rate. Otherwise, if it says you’re positive, you’re probably positive.
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Re: Crown Heights as a COVID-19 lab
« Reply #289 on: October 07, 2020, 07:33:28 PM »
From what I understand, and the Igud harabbanim robo call that just went out spelled this out birachel bitcha haketana, (especially in Lakewood) the governor told askanim he needs a lower percent positivity- it’s over 20% right now-to give him political cover. He doesn’t care so much about the raw number. Therefore  it can only help to test the non symptomatic.You are talking about absolute numbers but that is not the focus.
Actually, @Euclid is talking about percentage, but you bring up a good point. With such a large number of positives, even with percent positivity dropping, the sheer number of new cases can also bring negative scrutiny. You realize that with a serious drive we will probably account for 50-90% of NJs total numbers over the next week?
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Re: Crown Heights as a COVID-19 lab
« Reply #290 on: October 07, 2020, 07:34:45 PM »
Btw I added 4 negatives to the Lakewood totals this week, so you can’t say I’m a spoil sport  ;D
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Re: Crown Heights as a COVID-19 lab
« Reply #291 on: October 07, 2020, 07:36:49 PM »
Btw I added 4 negatives to the Lakewood totals this week, so you can’t say I’m a spoil sport  ;D
I added 2 positives twice and total 10 negatives.
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Re: Crown Heights as a COVID-19 lab
« Reply #292 on: October 07, 2020, 07:39:22 PM »
Do rapids count?

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Re: Crown Heights as a COVID-19 lab
« Reply #293 on: October 07, 2020, 07:51:25 PM »
Do rapids count?
I didn’t think so but recently someone posted that they do
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Re: Crown Heights as a COVID-19 lab
« Reply #294 on: October 07, 2020, 08:15:27 PM »
The Gedaliah Society is on board
https://collive.com/gedaliah-society-clarifies-on-community-covid-testing/

When I saw your post I thought I would see something on the Gedaliah Society blog. When I saw nothing there I checked a non-blocked news website, and realized that this information is coming from the most powerful entities in Crown Heights - the schools, rather than the Gedaliah Society themselves.

This is a piece of the puzzle falling into place, after a conversation I had this afternoon with a menahel of one of the schools, and when I mentioned the Gedaliah Society the tone of the response sounded like they are irrelevant.
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Re: Crown Heights as a COVID-19 lab
« Reply #295 on: October 07, 2020, 08:20:35 PM »
When I saw your post I thought I would see something on the Gedaliah Society blog. When I saw nothing there I checked a non-blocked news website, and realized that this information is coming from the most powerful entities in Crown Heights - the schools, rather than the Gedaliah Society themselves.

This a a piece of the puzzle falling into place, after a conversation I had this afternoon with a menahel of one of the schools, and when I mentioned the Gedaliah Society the tone of the response sounded like they are irrelevant.
Sounds typical of people in positions of power
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Re: Crown Heights as a COVID-19 lab
« Reply #296 on: October 07, 2020, 09:18:41 PM »
Did a little digging, and Gedaliah Society signing off on the drive is not so clear cut. They officially are not taking a stance either way.
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Re: Crown Heights as a COVID-19 lab
« Reply #297 on: October 07, 2020, 09:47:54 PM »
Did a little digging, and Gedaliah Society signing off on the drive is not so clear cut. They officially are not taking a stance either way.


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Re: Crown Heights as a COVID-19 lab
« Reply #298 on: October 12, 2020, 08:21:18 PM »
So where are they a month later after OP?

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Re: Crown Heights as a COVID-19 lab
« Reply #299 on: October 12, 2020, 08:24:09 PM »
If there aren't at least a few hundred new cases in the next few days.. the crown heights covid-19 science lab pretty much proves that anything you every heard about social distancing is false and indeed a hoax.