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Re: RBG DDF shortlist and how it will shape the Elections
« Reply #180 on: September 24, 2020, 01:18:17 PM »
To be honest, the Republicans played dirty to block Garland by inventing a rule, and then changing it, everything should be on the table. What goes around comes around.

Same as republicans, it's playing with fire because next time the tables are turned, it will come back around.
There is no rule and there never was. It always was and will continue to be the choice of the majority party in the Senate. That didn't start with Garland and didn't end now.
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Re: RBG DDF shortlist and how it will shape the Elections
« Reply #181 on: September 24, 2020, 01:19:03 PM »
which they are constitutionally required to hold.
#FakeNews
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Re: RBG DDF shortlist and how it will shape the Elections
« Reply #182 on: September 24, 2020, 01:19:40 PM »
There is no rule and there never was. It always was and will continue to be the choice of the majority party in the Senate. That didn't start with Garland and didn't end now.
And it's the House's option to impeach for any reason.

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Re: RBG DDF shortlist and how it will shape the Elections
« Reply #183 on: September 24, 2020, 01:20:27 PM »
And it's the House's option to impeach for any reason.
yup. Go ahead.
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Re: RBG DDF shortlist and how it will shape the Elections
« Reply #184 on: September 24, 2020, 01:21:33 PM »
An impeachment would hand the election to Trump on a silver platter.
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

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Re: RBG DDF shortlist and how it will shape the Elections
« Reply #185 on: September 24, 2020, 01:23:27 PM »
An impeachment would hand the election to Trump on a silver platter.
Not if the House doesn't do it until the lame duck session...

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Re: RBG DDF shortlist and how it will shape the Elections
« Reply #186 on: September 24, 2020, 01:25:25 PM »
The justice will be voted on long before then.
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Re: RBG DDF shortlist and how it will shape the Elections
« Reply #187 on: September 24, 2020, 01:25:30 PM »
The last thing the DNC wants to do is to remind the American public of their failed impeachment, it would be the greatest gift to Trump's reelection.
yup. Go ahead.
An impeachment would hand the election to Trump on a silver platter.

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Re: RBG DDF shortlist and how it will shape the Elections
« Reply #188 on: September 24, 2020, 01:25:32 PM »
If Dems already won the presidency and the senate, they have a lot more power during a lame duck session. That's definitely factor in whether Republicans would wait until a lame duck session to confirm.

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Re: RBG DDF shortlist and how it will shape the Elections
« Reply #189 on: September 24, 2020, 01:26:40 PM »
The justice will be voted on long before then.
Unlikely. Republicans might roll e dice that it's better to not have hearings when 50% of their conference is running for reelection, some of them in tight races.

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Re: RBG DDF shortlist and how it will shape the Elections
« Reply #190 on: September 24, 2020, 01:26:43 PM »
If Dems already won the presidency and the senate, they have a lot more power during a lame duck session. That's definitely factor in whether Republicans would wait until a lame duck session to confirm.
Which seems to be a good reason that they won't
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Re: RBG DDF shortlist and how it will shape the Elections
« Reply #191 on: September 24, 2020, 01:27:24 PM »
Well, nothing in modern history shows anything.

Also, if Republicans wanted their argument to be dependent on a divided government, they should have made that clear then. They skirted it then because it sounds (and is) overly partisan when you say it.

I didn't read the linked article at all but the quote is apropo

https://twitter.com/ishapiro/status/1308932851803578369
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Re: RBG DDF shortlist and how it will shape the Elections
« Reply #192 on: September 24, 2020, 01:27:41 PM »
The justice will be voted on long before then.
Correct.
The real question we have to ask, why is the left losing it's collective mind over this?

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Re: RBG DDF shortlist and how it will shape the Elections
« Reply #193 on: September 24, 2020, 01:29:14 PM »
I didn't read the linked article at all but the quote is apropo

https://twitter.com/ishapiro/status/1308932851803578369
Much of what RBG did to push a feminist platform was done arguing cases in front of SCOTUS. By the time she was a Justice, she already had precedent on her side.

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Re: RBG DDF shortlist and how it will shape the Elections
« Reply #194 on: September 24, 2020, 01:29:58 PM »
Correct.
The real question we have to ask, why is the left losing it's collective mind over this?
Because of garland. If garland were confirmed, I agree it would be quite hypocritical of the left to be upset.

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Re: RBG DDF shortlist and how it will shape the Elections
« Reply #195 on: September 24, 2020, 01:30:31 PM »
Unlikely. Republicans might roll e dice that it's better to not have hearings when 50% of their conference is running for reelection, some of them in tight races.
very few in tight races. And those that are, I don't see how voting for a qualified justice will swing the votes.

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Re: RBG DDF shortlist and how it will shape the Elections
« Reply #196 on: September 24, 2020, 01:30:38 PM »
Schumer keeps repeating that Ginsburg's final fervent wish was to not be replaced until a new president is elected.

Should we also change all the laws so that we go according to her view even when she was in the minority?

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Re: RBG DDF shortlist and how it will shape the Elections
« Reply #197 on: September 24, 2020, 01:31:11 PM »
Correct.
The real question we have to ask, why is the left losing it's collective mind over this?

Because it is a MAJOR shift in the makeup of the court and will only be undone if Thomas gets replaced by a Dem. With another term Trump may even replace Breyer. That can make the change last a generation.
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Re: RBG DDF shortlist and how it will shape the Elections
« Reply #198 on: September 24, 2020, 01:31:14 PM »
Because of garland. If garland were confirmed, I agree it would be quite hypocritical of the left to be upset.
That doesn't answer the question. Why is the SCJ so sacred to the left?

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Re: RBG DDF shortlist and how it will shape the Elections
« Reply #199 on: September 24, 2020, 01:31:51 PM »
Because of garland. If garland were confirmed, I agree it would be quite hypocritical of the left to be upset.
LOL
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