Chochom Einov B'Roishoi

[yelped]

The point of this was to show we shouldn't be calling people walking around without masks rodfim.

Why not?

[avromie7]

Why not?

Are you saying you would go around killing anyone not wearing a mask?

[yelped]

Are you saying you would go around killing anyone not wearing a mask?

Ok, so Rasha.

[Yosel]

We should be careful not to bash rabbonim by name (as I think most people here have refrained from), but their positions are fair game.

""rabbonim"" what make them qualified to called Rabbonim in the first place?

[gubevo18]

Ok, so Rasha.

Okay, that I can handle. Are they wrong, mistaken, perhaps even reshaim? I can take that but it is ridiculous to call people without masks rodfim.

It might make slightly more sense when a confirmed covid carrier knowingly walks into an indoor shul without a mask. But stam for a reg guy to walk around mask - that doesn't cross the line.

[avromie7]

Okay, that I can handle. Are they wrong, mistaken, perhaps even reshaim? I can take that but it is ridiculous to call people without masks rodfim.

It might make slightly more sense when a confirmed covid carrier knowingly walks into an indoor shul without a mask. But stam for a reg guy to walk around mask - that doesn't get close to crossing the line.

FTFY

[yelped]

Okay, that I can handle. Are they wrong, mistaken, perhaps even reshaim? I can take that but it is ridiculous to call people without masks rodfim.

It might make slightly more sense when a confirmed covid carrier knowingly walks into an indoor shul without a mask. But stam for a reg guy to walk around mask - that doesn't cross the line.

Weren't we talking about a Covid carrier the whole time?

[avromie7]

Weren't we talking about a Covid carrier the whole time?

That's not how the discussion started, but I guess different people understood it differently.

Even someone who tested positive doesn't come close. If someone tested positive and went into a nursing home etc. it may be up for discussion.

[Yard sale]

""rabbonim"" what make them qualified to called Rabbonim in the first place?

We should be careful not to bash rabbonim by name (as I think most people here have refrained from), but their positions are fair game.

Oh so now we know so much more than the Rabbanim that we can instantly weigh all their considerations and calculations and the needs and nature of their mispalelim and larger communities and pass judgement on them or call their positions “fair game”. How about a modicum of respect? There is a way to discuss or have an issue with the decisions of rabbanim and this ain’t it. This thread ought to be titled כסיל בחושך הולך.

[yungermanchik]

על חטא...בזלזול..ומורים

[Lurker]

Another thread derailed... shocking.

[Ergel]

That's not how the discussion started, but I guess different people understood it differently.

Even someone who tested positive doesn't come close. If someone tested positive and went into a nursing home etc. it may be up for discussion.

Up for discussion? Why, preytell?

[avromie7]

Up for discussion? Why, preytell?

Because IANAR

[Ergel]

Because IANAR

Yet you can definitively say when someone is not a rodef?

[avromie7]

Yet you can definitively say when someone is not a rodef?

Why don't you explain to us why you think someone walking around without a mask is a rodef. Every time I think maybe the mask crazies are being intelligent I see a post like this reminding me why they're called mask crazies.

[good sam]

Why don't you explain to us why you think someone walking around without a mask is a rodef. Every time I think maybe the mask crazies are being intelligent I see a post like this reminding me why they're called mask crazies.

You don't understand why an infected person knowingly infecting others is a rodef?

[avromie7]

You don't understand why an infected person knowingly infecting others is a rodef?

No I don't, please explain it to me.

[shaulyaakov]

No I don't, please explain it to me.

Would you say a drunk driver is a rodef? That is, there are many people who drive drunk and are completely fine, and others who kill people, but killing people is rare.

[good sam]

No I don't, please explain it to me.

No thank you. I'll save this post for the next time you call someone else crazy.

[Ergel]

Why don't you explain to us why you think someone walking around without a mask is a rodef. Every time I think maybe the mask crazies are being intelligent I see a post like this reminding me why they're called mask crazies.

I didn't say anything of the sort either way. I'm just surprised that you seem to think you aren't qualified to call an infected person circulating in a nursing home not a rodef, yet you are qualified to say that an infected person roaming the streets potentially creating an infection chain that is likely to kill someone not a rodef.