Trump Vs Biden, Debates 2020

[aygart]

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What's "it" here? Violence and rioting? If so, source? Pretty sure he condemned that.

Why are you expecting one to condemn only the violence and the other to condemn the entire group?

[biscotti]

Why are you expecting one to condemn only the violence and the other to condemn the entire group?

I'm not sure if I'm misunderstanding you. I think you're asking why I expect Trump to condemn all white supremacists but only expect Biden to condemn the violent aspects of BLM protests.

If that is the question you're asking, I think I'm in the wrong corner of the internet.

[aygart]

I'm not sure if I'm misunderstanding you. I think you're asking why I expect Trump to condemn all white supremacists but only expect Biden to condemn the violent aspects of BLM protests.

If that is the question you're asking, I think I'm in the wrong corner of the internet.

I want you to articulate the difference and then explain why those are then equivalent expectations.

Lol on the decision of violent peaceful protesters.

[biscotti]

I want you to articulate the difference and then explain why those are then equivalent expectations.

Yeah, I'm not going to articulate (and then defend) why white supremacists should be condemned wholesale while protesters of police brutality shouldn't. If that diminishes my credibility, so be it.

Lol on the decision of violent peaceful protesters.

Genuinely do not know what you're talking about here

[Baruch]

I'm glad you're honest enough to say you would vote for Putin over Trump. Kind of a conversation ender for me. GL convincing others.
= TDS.

I'm obviously exaggerating. My point is that Trump is an authoritarian.

[Baruch]

What autocratic policies have you seen over the last few years?

William Barr. Everything he does.

And tons of rhetoric.

[Baruch]

What makes Putin smart?

He owns the president of the USA.

[Kobe Bryant]

Breaks it down very eloquently.

[PlatinumGuy]

He owns the president of the USA.

Really? What has that gotten him?

[Toasted]

William Barr. Everything he does.

And tons of rhetoric.

I'm obviously exaggerating. My point is that Trump is an authoritarian.

What about William Barr? What's everything?

Autocratic means absolute power last I checked. He has absolute power like you have a hole in your head.

[aygart]

William Barr. Everything he does.

And tons of rhetoric.

Care to tell us something specific. I don't want to hear about his flatulence but rather some actions.

[ExGingi]

Can someone explain the poll options to me? How is neither not a tie making it a separate and distinct option?

[jj1000]

Can someone explain the poll options to me? How is neither not a tie making it a separate and distinct option?

Tie implies they both won, i.e. they both are better now than before the debate. Neither implies they are both the same or worse than before the debate.

[ExGingi]

Tie implies they both won, i.e. they both are better now than before the debate. Neither implies they are both the same or worse than before the debate.

If it's a zero sum game, how can they both be better or both be worse?

[Toasted]

There's actually someone who acts an autocrat. Hint, he's a democrat.

He chooses who lives and who dies, who can open their business, where and when every person in the state can go or not, who can assemble and who can loot. Has unlimited policing at his disposal to arrest and fine those who don't conform. Best part is that he and his ilk don't bother to live by the rules they set for others in the name of 'safety'.

Hey @Baruch , are you yelling from the rooftops?

https://nypost.com/2020/09/30/its-past-time-to-pull-the-plug-on-andrew-cuomos-dictatorial-pandemic-powers/

[jj1000]

If it's a zero sum game, how can they both be better or both be worse?

Winning implies winning... And that was the question, who won. This isn't a binary 9 inning or 4 quarter game. This is 3D political chess. And if they both stunk, it stinks for the country, politics, and the candidates, hence they didn't tie, they lost, which means neither won.

[ExGingi]

Winning implies winning... And that was the question, who won. This isn't a binary 9 inning or 4 quarter game. This is 3D political chess. And if they both stunk, it stinks for the country, politics, and the candidates, hence they didn't tie, they lost, which means neither won.

That's news for me. The Presidential election isn't binary? And if the election is binary, then advances and regressions cannot be compared to 3D chess, or even to 2D chess. It's a straight line race where one is positioned ahead of the other (though if you would argue popular vote vs electoral college, I would probably consent that in a certain realm there is another dimension, but that's not where it matters on a practical level).

Oh, and BTW, it seems like this is where Trump shines, he's a master of game theory (an innate talent, not something he studied). He doesn't care about how he comes across, he cares about the end result that matters to him. That's what got him to where he is now.

[Kobe Bryant]

That's news for me. The Presidential election isn't binary? And if the election is binary, then advances and regressions cannot be compared to 3D chess, or even to 2D chess. It's a straight line race where one is positioned ahead of the other (though if you would argue popular vote vs electoral college, I would probably consent that in a certain realm there is another dimension, but that's not where it matters on a practical level).

Oh, and BTW, it seems like this is where Trump shines, he's a master of game theory (an innate talent, not something he studied). He doesn't care about how he comes across, he cares about the end result that matters to him. That's what got him to where he is now.

You would be surprised at how many people here believe it isn't a binary choice.

[jj1000]

That's news for me. The Presidential election isn't binary? And if the election is binary, then advances and regressions cannot be compared to 3D chess, or even to 2D chess. It's a straight line race where one is positioned ahead of the other (though if you would argue popular vote vs electoral college, I would probably consent that in a certain realm there is another dimension, but that's not where it matters on a practical level).

1. Who is talking about the election right now? This thread is about the debate.

2. The Presidential election isn't binary. I'd agree with that statement. For many reasons. It's influenced by and influences policies which are fluid, who wins the house and senate which make a huge difference, and much more. Presidents change their opinions all the time in elections based on the voters opinions. And at the end of the day, the president doesn't matter as much as his policies.

[ExGingi]

2. The Presidential election isn't binary. I'd agree with that statement. For many reasons. It's influenced by and influences policies which are fluid, who wins the house and senate which make a huge difference, and much more. Presidents change their opinions all the time in elections based on the voters opinions. And at the end of the day, the president doesn't matter as much as his policies his or her judicial appointments.

FTFY