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Who Won?

Trump
36 (34.6%)
Biden
25 (24%)
Tie
3 (2.9%)
Neither
29 (27.9%)
Another COVID Death
11 (10.6%)

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Author Topic: Trump Vs Biden, Debates 2020  (Read 39480 times)

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Re: Trump Vs Biden, Debates 2020
« Reply #80 on: September 30, 2020, 11:01:55 AM »
I just watched that segment again, and Biden never specifically condemned left wing violence.
He did say "BLM Violence." only issue is, he never did condemn them.
Not only did he not condemn "BLM or Antifa violence" during the debate, he has never condemned them period.
Why won't Joe Biden condemn Antifa and BLM Rioters by name ?
Because there's nothing in it for him. The only people who will be happy if he does aren't voting for him anyway. Any political advisor who tells him to call them out by name should be fired.

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Re: Trump Vs Biden, Debates 2020
« Reply #81 on: September 30, 2020, 11:02:44 AM »
Is that supposed to be a condemnation of white supremacy?
He has condemned white supremacy dozens of times.

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Re: Trump Vs Biden, Debates 2020
« Reply #82 on: September 30, 2020, 11:04:02 AM »
He has condemned white supremacy dozens of times.
He's given a golden opportunity to do so in front of a large audience, and make Biden look bad by failing to condemn Antifa, and he failed. Sad!
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Re: Trump Vs Biden, Debates 2020
« Reply #83 on: September 30, 2020, 11:14:30 AM »
He's given a golden opportunity to do so in front of a large audience, and make Biden look bad by failing to condemn Antifa, and he failed. Sad!
Yup I am upset because Trump had so many opportunities for himself and to put Biden on the spot and he blew it! Like Antifa and If BLM is a peace organization, and with SCOTUS why Obama didn't wait for after Elections, And what exactly he would do different about Covid and if he would ban flights from China. And so many more.   

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Re: Trump Vs Biden, Debates 2020
« Reply #84 on: September 30, 2020, 11:34:32 AM »
He's given a golden opportunity to do so in front of a large audience, and make Biden look bad by failing to condemn Antifa, and he failed. Sad!

It wasn't a failure. Saying "stand back and stand by" to a white supremacist and borderline neo-nazi group was an affirmative choice. He said (and didn't say) what he did because, at this point in the election, that's what he thinks will help him win. He doesn't want to alienate white supremacists.

Not sure why "stand back and stand by" isn't the end of Orthodox support for him. On the Daily Shoah podcast, the neo-nazi host said that if the Proud Boys “were pressed on the issue, I guarantee you that like 90% of them would tell you something along the lines of ‘Hitler was right. Gas the Jews.’” (source: https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/proud-boys)

You guys sit here and say Trump made a mistake, what a missed opportunity. Have you considered that these mistakes are things to be concerned about rather than forgiven?

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Re: Trump Vs Biden, Debates 2020
« Reply #85 on: September 30, 2020, 11:39:58 AM »
Trump is not the type to say something because Wallace said to. So what he said was kinda big.

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Re: Trump Vs Biden, Debates 2020
« Reply #86 on: September 30, 2020, 11:43:30 AM »
Have you considered that these mistakes are things to be concerned about rather than forgiven?
What is the concern?
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Re: Trump Vs Biden, Debates 2020
« Reply #87 on: September 30, 2020, 11:49:08 AM »
What is the concern?

That the president of the United States tacitly endorses the existence and ideology of white supremacist hate groups.

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Re: Trump Vs Biden, Debates 2020
« Reply #88 on: September 30, 2020, 11:51:41 AM »
He's given a golden opportunity to do so in front of a large audience, and make Biden look bad by failing to condemn Antifa, and he failed. Sad!

As mentioned above, he literally repeated the words wallace wanted him to repeat.
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Re: Trump Vs Biden, Debates 2020
« Reply #89 on: September 30, 2020, 11:58:11 AM »
As mentioned above, he literally repeated the words wallace wanted him to repeat.

do "stand down," "stand back," and "stand by" mean the same thing to you?

  • Stand down: relax or cause to relax after a state of readiness.

    Stand back: take a few steps backwards

    Stand by: be ready to deal or assist with something.

I watched the debate live, untainted by the big bad MSM's use of basic English comprehension, and understood what was being said. So did the Proud Boys.

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Re: Trump Vs Biden, Debates 2020
« Reply #92 on: September 30, 2020, 12:17:56 PM »
do "stand down," "stand back," and "stand by" mean the same thing to you?

  • Stand down: relax or cause to relax after a state of readiness.

    Stand back: take a few steps backwards

    Stand by: be ready to deal or assist with something.

I watched the debate live, untainted by the big bad MSM's use of basic English comprehension, and understood what was being said. So did the Proud Boys.

it's very clear what happened, he wanted to pivot to talking about Antifa and so he just rushed through repeating what they wanted him to say, mangling it in the process, why else would he ask "what do you want to call them, give me a name"
for the record, Biden brought up the proud boys
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Re: Trump Vs Biden, Debates 2020
« Reply #93 on: September 30, 2020, 12:23:12 PM »
It wasn't a failure. Saying "stand back and stand by" to a white supremacist and borderline neo-nazi group was an affirmative choice. He said (and didn't say) what he did because, at this point in the election, that's what he thinks will help him win. He doesn't want to alienate white supremacists.

Not sure why "stand back and stand by" isn't the end of Orthodox support for him. On the Daily Shoah podcast, the neo-nazi host said that if the Proud Boys “were pressed on the issue, I guarantee you that like 90% of them would tell you something along the lines of ‘Hitler was right. Gas the Jews.’” (source: https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/proud-boys)

You guys sit here and say Trump made a mistake, what a missed opportunity. Have you considered that these mistakes are things to be concerned about rather than forgiven?
Full Disclosure: my friend works in the WH and interacts with President Trump on a regular basis.

The fact is President Trump is the most pro Jewish and Israel  president in the history of the US. 
His family is Jewish, he is surrounded by Jews. And his policies reflect that.
He has condemned white supremacy, KKK, Neo Nazi's and white supremacists like David Duke dozens of times.
OTOH your candidate refuses to condemn BLM which is an anti semitic and neo marxists group, and Antifa a fascist group which have been terrorising this country for years at this point, have caused billions of dollars in property damage, and have killed many people.
This is a binary choice!

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Re: Trump Vs Biden, Debates 2020
« Reply #94 on: September 30, 2020, 12:26:22 PM »
Full Disclosure: my friend works in the WH and interacts with President Trump on a regular basis.

The fact is President Trump is the most pro Jewish and Israel  president in the history of the US. 
His family is Jewish, he is surrounded by Jews. And his policies reflect that.
He has condemned white supremacy, KKK, Neo Nazi's and white supremacists like David Duke dozens of times.
OTOH your candidate refuses to condemn BLM which is an anti semitic and neo marxists group, and Antifa a fascist group which have been terrorising this country for years at this point, have caused billions of dollars in property damage, and have killed many people.
This is a binary choice!
I'd rather live in a not so pro Jewish democracy. Putin also loves Jews.

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Re: Trump Vs Biden, Debates 2020
« Reply #95 on: September 30, 2020, 12:37:13 PM »
I'd rather live in a not so pro Jewish democracy. Putin also loves Jews.
Putin almost always votes against Israel at the UN! cant compare

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Re: Trump Vs Biden, Debates 2020
« Reply #96 on: September 30, 2020, 12:41:42 PM »
I'd rather live in a not so pro Jewish democracy. Putin also loves Jews.
English, please.

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Re: Trump Vs Biden, Debates 2020
« Reply #97 on: September 30, 2020, 12:47:41 PM »
English, please.
Trump= very pro Jew+autocracy+dumb
Biden=less pro jew+democracy+old
Putin=pro Jew+autocracy+smart

Biden>Putin>Trump

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Re: Trump Vs Biden, Debates 2020
« Reply #98 on: September 30, 2020, 12:54:34 PM »
Trump= very pro Jew+autocracy+dumb
Biden=less pro jew+democracy+old
Putin=pro Jew+autocracy+smart

Biden>Putin>Trump
I'm glad you're honest enough to say you would vote for Putin over Trump. Kind of a conversation ender for me. GL convincing others.
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Re: Trump Vs Biden, Debates 2020
« Reply #99 on: September 30, 2020, 01:11:08 PM »
Trump= very pro Jew+autocracy+dumb
Biden=less pro jew+democracy+old
Putin=pro Jew+autocracy+smart

Biden>Putin>Trump

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