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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #15 on: October 05, 2020, 12:25:45 AM »
Giving official Sukkos vacations - brilliant!

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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #16 on: October 05, 2020, 12:38:04 AM »
Giving official Sukkos vacations - brilliant!
Problem is it extends past Sukkos & affects stores too.

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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #17 on: October 05, 2020, 12:41:59 AM »
The real issue is the huge increase in covid cases in the frum communities. Follow what has been going on in Eretz Yisroel, how slowly it resarted and how long it took to get to where it is now where 44 people dies in just one day. This is where we could be heading. Instead of complaining about being singled by the Mayor, maybe a little bit of self introspection is in order. How masks and social distancing were not observed, how we attended weddings with hundred of people indoors. Did we not bring this upon ourselves?

What about the massive Chillul Hashem this has brought - Jews again singled out for spreading disease. We can't just follow the rules like everybody else because we are smarter. We had all the excuses - masks don't work, we have heard immunity, everybody got it already, it can't come back. We as a group very publicly ignored the rules and now there is another outbreak. Wow what a surprise and instead of owing up to what we did all we do is complain about the Mayor (who is a moron and shutting down is a stupid plan).   

It was so predictable that this would happen and was predicted by numerous people here. When it actually does happen at least realize where it came from. Blaming anti-semitism now just sounds very much like the way many here have described the Peaceful Protestors.
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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #19 on: October 05, 2020, 12:59:36 AM »
A Mosod in Brooklyn is having a COVID Testing Drive tomorrow and asking only healthy individuals with antibodies or individuals who are feeling well to come. Lets drive down the positive rate while not addressing the real issue.

This is going to be standard community wide, I'm sure. Williamsburg has been doing this, and Lakewood is planning to do this too.

It'll take tens of thousands of tests to drive down rates. It looks like about 1000 positive tests in our community. Skewing positivity rates will have to be a community wide effort to be effective.

The reality is that positivity rates are a bit of a weak indicator anyways. It's pretty obvious that you'll get different rates if you're doing compliance tests vs symptomatic/exposed tests. They're messing with a barometer that wasn't too accurate a benchmark to start with.

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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #20 on: October 05, 2020, 11:06:50 AM »
This is going to be standard community wide, I'm sure. Williamsburg has been doing this, and Lakewood is planning to do this too.

It'll take tens of thousands of tests to drive down rates. It looks like about 1000 positive tests in our community. Skewing positivity rates will have to be a community wide effort to be effective.

The reality is that positivity rates are a bit of a weak indicator anyways. It's pretty obvious that you'll get different rates if you're doing compliance tests vs symptomatic/exposed tests. They're messing with a barometer that wasn't too accurate a benchmark to start with.
But its the one the the government swears by, so we will give them a piece of their own medicine.

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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #21 on: October 05, 2020, 11:12:10 AM »
But its the one the the government swears by, so we will give them a piece of their own medicine.
IIRC it’s one that many here were swearing by for a long time
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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #22 on: October 05, 2020, 11:24:05 AM »
But its the one the the government swears by, so we will give them a piece of their own medicine.
Yup and when the disease spreads rampant that will REALLY show them!
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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #23 on: October 05, 2020, 11:36:16 AM »
I was thinking the same....

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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #24 on: October 05, 2020, 11:38:56 AM »
Yup and when the disease spreads rampant that will REALLY show them!
I wasnt saying we shouldnt take precautions and be very careful, but closing business that required masks and were presumably pretty safe when people will just go to a different zip - as the local frum elected officials were saying - seems stupid.

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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #25 on: October 05, 2020, 11:46:21 AM »
What should really be happening is enforcement of existing rules regarding schools and simchas where most of the spread is occurring.

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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #26 on: October 05, 2020, 11:54:40 AM »
I was thinking the same....
Anyone with two brain cells to rub together is thinking the same.
I believe it's not about stopping the spread. Rather a threat against the small businesses in those areas, so the leaders of the community will be pressured to take action.

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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #27 on: October 05, 2020, 11:59:56 AM »
Anyone with two brain cells to rub together is thinking the same.
I believe it's not about stopping the spread. Rather a threat against the small businesses in those areas, so the leaders of the community will be pressured to take action.
Many small businesses have no intention of closing. Sounds more like he wants to punish these zip codes.

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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #28 on: October 05, 2020, 12:37:43 PM »
Can anyone explain what the logic behind this metric (rate of positive tests) is?

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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #29 on: October 05, 2020, 12:40:01 PM »
Can anyone explain what the logic behind this metric (rate of positive tests) is?
Please don’t mention logic & Deblasio in the same thread. EVER!!!!