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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #60 on: October 05, 2020, 01:22:00 PM »
Don't fix my text if I didn't ask for it.   It's not about following the rules, because last I checked all protests around the U.S. were not following cdc guidelines.

Obviously its A. Our infection rate which is high, or B. We are testing way more...
He was doing you a favor. No matter how much you harp on the (outdoor, somewhat/largely masked, irrelevant) protests, there is no denying that the frum communities completely abandoned the rules while the neighboring communities did not. The obvious effect of the virus surging in said frum communities but not the neighboring communities is now impossible to argue against.

When it inevitably spills over and creates a new wave in other communities Iím betting the ĎSee, masks donít workĒ crowd will be right back at it.

Spare us the Ashkenazic eugenics argument, please. (Oh, and Deal is having an outbreak as well).
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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #61 on: October 05, 2020, 01:22:15 PM »
Itís very much a power play and trying to show Frum communities that heís boss. Disgusting.

To say itís pure anti-semitism is idiotic, though.
and also that he can say he did such a good job making sure there is no second wave, otherwise the one person who was going to buy his book wont buy it now.
He knows that the community will start testing healthy people now, which will drive down the numbers and he can proudly say I DID IT.

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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #62 on: October 05, 2020, 01:32:00 PM »
There are two numbers that are looked at typically, total new cases and percent positive. If you just report cases, you can get into issues such as NY seeming to have fewer cases than FL because fewer tests were administered when NY had its wave than FL. So by combining that with positivity rate, we have a clearer idea of how widespread infection truly is. When NY is reporting 1,000 new cases but 50% of people testing are positive, itís safe to assume that there is a very high rate of cases in the city that are not being reported/tested (which is what happened here in March). When FL reports 5,000 new cases a day but only 15% of people testing are positive, itís safe to assume that there isnít nearly as a high a rate of undetected cases in the community.

This is only true if both places have the same policies in place regarding who gets tested.

If one place is only testing people who are symptomatic, another is also testing people who were exposed and a third place is testing anyone in healthcare daily they are going to have different positivity levels even if they have the same level of infection.

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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #63 on: October 05, 2020, 01:33:14 PM »
This is only true if both places have the same policies in place regarding who gets tested.

If one place is only testing people who are symptomatic, another is also testing people who were exposed and a third place is testing anyone in healthcare daily they are going to have different positivity levels even if they have the same level of infection.
AFAIK policies are identical everywhere in NY/NJ, if not the whole US. What makes you think otherwise?

Regardless, no matter what the policy, if total cases or percent positivity rise in one place than there is obviously an uptick, as whatever demographic was getting tested is now showing infection at that increased rate.
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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #64 on: October 05, 2020, 01:36:14 PM »
Are Williamsburg and crown heights being shut down?
no   not yet

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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #65 on: October 05, 2020, 01:40:17 PM »
This is only true if both places have the same policies in place regarding who gets tested.

If one place is only testing people who are symptomatic, another is also testing people who were exposed and a third place is testing anyone in healthcare daily they are going to have different positivity levels even if they have the same level of infection.
There is a reason they got rid of the numbers that showed how many people were tested in each zip.
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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #66 on: October 05, 2020, 01:46:53 PM »
There is a reason they got rid of the numbers that showed how many people were tested in each zip.
Are you saying more or less people are getting tested in the frum communities? Pick one.
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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #67 on: October 05, 2020, 02:04:39 PM »
Did Cuomo give any timeline about reopening? or is he going to hold that over our heads as a threat for noncompliance.

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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #68 on: October 05, 2020, 02:05:29 PM »
Are you saying more or less people are getting tested in the frum communities? Pick one.
@Tomorrow  Iím addressing you, pinging you if you missed it
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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #71 on: October 05, 2020, 02:15:05 PM »
WILL CUOMO APOLOGIZE?! Uses Photo From 2007 Satmar Rebbe Levaya In Todayís Press Conference

https://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/general/1906942/will-cuomo-apologize-uses-photo-from-2007-satmar-rebbe-levaya-in-todays-press-conference.html
Who cares about the stupid picture? Are his claims true or not?
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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #72 on: October 05, 2020, 02:16:26 PM »
Who cares about the stupid picture? Are his claims true or not?
Makes it look more egregious then it is. Also shows how little of an effort they have made in terms of outreach

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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #73 on: October 05, 2020, 02:18:04 PM »
Makes it look more egregious then it is. Also shows how little of an effort they have made in terms of outreach
What kind of outreach are you expecting ?

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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #74 on: October 05, 2020, 02:18:08 PM »
Makes it look more egregious then it is. Also shows how little of an effort they have made in terms of outreach
Is that more egregious than it really is?
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