Author Topic: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again  (Read 91050 times)

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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #80 on: October 05, 2020, 02:30:38 PM »
no it stems from stupidity and the fact that he is power hungry and can't admit that there is no definitive way to combat this virus.
Nobody ever accused him of having a brain.

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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #81 on: October 05, 2020, 02:31:14 PM »
no it stems from stupidity and the fact that he is power hungry and can't admit that there is no definitive way to combat this virus.

Formulating a concerted strategy to implement guidelines to prevent transmission utilizing known methodologies and tools such as effective mask wearing and social distancing and ventilation to prevent widespread community spread and super spreader events is stupidity? Funny, I'd faster assign that designation to those that refuse to comply with the evil agenda of preventing infection. There's a certain confidence and assuredness that only the oblivious and delusional can muster. Those that feel that attempts to combat this pandemic are an exercise in futility, which is why they've never even tried to do so, seem to project this confidence in spades.

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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #82 on: October 05, 2020, 02:35:30 PM »
Formulating a concerted strategy to implement guidelines to prevent transmission utilizing known methodologies and tools such as effective mask wearing and social distancing and ventilation to prevent widespread community spread and super spreader events is stupidity? Funny, I'd faster assign that designation to those that refuse to comply with the evil agenda of preventing infection. There's a certain confidence and assuredness that only the oblivious and delusional can muster. Those that feel that attempts to combat this pandemic are an exercise in futility, which is why they've never even tried to do so, seem to project this confidence in spades.
They were discussing closing schools, not mask wearing and SD

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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #83 on: October 05, 2020, 02:36:48 PM »
Yes. That picture is more beyond the pale then anything else.
No. The fact that our community ignored the rules and caused this huge uptick and massive Chillul Hashem is beyond the pale more than anything else. Stop whining about the fact that he used an old picture and ask your community leaders why on Erev Yom Kippur they were more concerned about people wearing masks in the streets to create an appearance of compliance than with actual compliance inside Shuls to protect their own congregants?

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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #84 on: October 05, 2020, 02:39:02 PM »
Deblasio plans on shuting down stores even though cuomo says not yet

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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #85 on: October 05, 2020, 02:40:05 PM »
Another point. The average children in an american family is 1.9, the average in orthodox jewish communities is 4.1. In addition a much larger percentage of jewish people get married and have children.

So if an non jewish American catches Covid-19 and brings it home, they are either bringing it home to no one, or their wife and 1.9 children. In an orthodox jewish setting they are most likely bringing it home to their wife and 4.1 children. That alone can be causing a much higher percentage in highly condensed orthodox jewish communities.
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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #86 on: October 05, 2020, 02:59:47 PM »
Another point. The average children in an american family is 1.9, the average in orthodox jewish communities is 4.1. In addition a much larger percentage of jewish people get married and have children.

So if an non jewish American catches Covid-19 and brings it home, they are either bringing it home to no one, or their wife and 1.9 children. In an orthodox jewish setting they are most likely bringing it home to their wife and 4.1 children. That alone can be causing a much higher percentage in highly condensed orthodox jewish communities.
You’re right! There is some truth to this, as well as the fact that our community is very socially mixed and we live on top of each other.

Why is it that some other communities in the area, which share these features, are not experiencing the spike we are?
I'm saying the metrics are way off and they know it.
Again, pick one. Pick a metric that’s off. Is it too many testing, or too few? I think you have realized that either way the story the numbers tell is clearly true.
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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #87 on: October 05, 2020, 03:09:41 PM »
Wondering, in order for the positivity rate to be 3% there needs to be much more cases, bc there's over 500,000 people in those zip codes, so if the positivity rate is 3% there should be 15,000 cases

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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #88 on: October 05, 2020, 03:11:03 PM »
Wondering, in order for the positivity rate to be 3% there needs to be much more cases, bc there's over 500,000 people in those zip codes, so if the positivity rate is 3% there should be 15,000 cases
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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #89 on: October 05, 2020, 03:18:56 PM »
Wondering, in order for the positivity rate to be 3% there needs to be much more cases, bc there's over 500,000 people in those zip codes, so if the positivity rate is 3% there should be 15,000 cases
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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #90 on: October 05, 2020, 03:26:24 PM »
My kids' school is right on the border of an affected zip, wonder whether they'll force them to close.

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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #91 on: October 05, 2020, 04:48:44 PM »


You’re right! There is some truth to this, as well as the fact that our community is very socially mixed and we live on top of each other.

Why is it that some other communities in the area, which share these features, are not experiencing the spike we are?Again, pick one. Pick a metric that’s off. Is it too many testing, or too few? I think you have realized that either way the story the numbers tell is clearly true.

Which communities share that metric?

To few.
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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #92 on: October 05, 2020, 05:10:28 PM »

Which communities share that metric?

To few.

Tell us whatever metric will unbury your head from the sand (hint: none), they will all tell you the same thing. New cases, increasing positivity rate, new hospitalizations, etc.
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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #93 on: October 05, 2020, 05:25:24 PM »
Tell us whatever metric will unbury your head from the sand (hint: none), they will all tell you the same thing. New cases, increasing positivity rate, new hospitalizations, etc.
No no no, this strain is milder. There are no hospitalizations.../s

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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #94 on: October 05, 2020, 05:31:42 PM »
No no no, this strain is milder. There are no hospitalizations.../s

And the only reason people died last time around was because the hospitals killed them...

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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #95 on: October 05, 2020, 05:50:29 PM »
Yes. That picture is more beyond the pale then anything else.

They corrected the picture to a similarly sized gathering at the same place 2 weeks ago and admitted their mistake. Doesn't seem like the right hill to die on...

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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #96 on: October 05, 2020, 05:54:32 PM »
They corrected the picture to a similarly sized gathering at the same place 2 weeks ago and admitted their mistake. Doesn't seem like the right hill to die on...

I’m sure the same people would make an uproar if the media mistakenly posted a Peaceful Protest picture from a few years ago.
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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #97 on: October 05, 2020, 06:15:06 PM »
I’m sure the same people would make an uproar if the media mistakenly posted a Peaceful Protest picture from a few years ago.

It's faux-outrage when the substance of the images are the same.

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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #98 on: October 05, 2020, 06:28:28 PM »
I’m sure the same people would make an uproar if the media mistakenly posted a Peaceful Protest picture from a few years ago.
Maybe, but it is still a stupid distraction.
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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #99 on: October 05, 2020, 06:32:07 PM »
Tell us whatever metric will unbury your head from the sand (hint: none), they will all tell you the same thing. New cases, increasing positivity rate, new hospitalizations, etc.

Let's start with new hospitalizations.

When that has gone up to uncalled for levels then most ppl will agree action needs to be taken

Most ppl don't really care about new cases or positivity rates especially if many/most are mild.