Author Topic: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again  (Read 27101 times)

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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #90 on: October 05, 2020, 03:26:24 PM »
My kids' school is right on the border of an affected zip, wonder whether they'll force them to close.

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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #91 on: October 05, 2020, 04:48:44 PM »


Youíre right! There is some truth to this, as well as the fact that our community is very socially mixed and we live on top of each other.

Why is it that some other communities in the area, which share these features, are not experiencing the spike we are?Again, pick one. Pick a metric thatís off. Is it too many testing, or too few? I think you have realized that either way the story the numbers tell is clearly true.

Which communities share that metric?

To few.
Sorry if I ask so many questions, but life is short and there is so much to learn! Let's help each other be great!

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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #92 on: October 05, 2020, 05:10:28 PM »

Which communities share that metric?

To few.

Tell us whatever metric will unbury your head from the sand (hint: none), they will all tell you the same thing. New cases, increasing positivity rate, new hospitalizations, etc.

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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #93 on: October 05, 2020, 05:25:24 PM »
Tell us whatever metric will unbury your head from the sand (hint: none), they will all tell you the same thing. New cases, increasing positivity rate, new hospitalizations, etc.
No no no, this strain is milder. There are no hospitalizations.../s

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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #94 on: October 05, 2020, 05:31:42 PM »
No no no, this strain is milder. There are no hospitalizations.../s

And the only reason people died last time around was because the hospitals killed them...

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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #95 on: October 05, 2020, 05:50:29 PM »
Yes. That picture is more beyond the pale then anything else.

They corrected the picture to a similarly sized gathering at the same place 2 weeks ago and admitted their mistake. Doesn't seem like the right hill to die on...

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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #96 on: October 05, 2020, 05:54:32 PM »
They corrected the picture to a similarly sized gathering at the same place 2 weeks ago and admitted their mistake. Doesn't seem like the right hill to die on...

Iím sure the same people would make an uproar if the media mistakenly posted a Peaceful Protest picture from a few years ago.

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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #97 on: October 05, 2020, 06:15:06 PM »
Iím sure the same people would make an uproar if the media mistakenly posted a Peaceful Protest picture from a few years ago.

It's faux-outrage when the substance of the images are the same.

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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #98 on: October 05, 2020, 06:28:28 PM »
Iím sure the same people would make an uproar if the media mistakenly posted a Peaceful Protest picture from a few years ago.
Maybe, but it is still a stupid distraction.
Feelings don't care about your facts

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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #99 on: October 05, 2020, 06:32:07 PM »
Tell us whatever metric will unbury your head from the sand (hint: none), they will all tell you the same thing. New cases, increasing positivity rate, new hospitalizations, etc.

Let's start with new hospitalizations.

When that has gone up to uncalled for levels then most ppl will agree action needs to be taken

Most ppl don't really care about new cases or positivity rates especially if many/most are mild.

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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #100 on: October 05, 2020, 06:32:55 PM »
Let's start with new hospitalizations.

When that has gone up to uncalled for levels then most ppl will agree action needs to be taken

Most ppl don't really care about new cases or positivity rates especially if many/most are mild.
Won't that be too late to do anything?
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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #101 on: October 05, 2020, 06:41:06 PM »
Won't that be too late to do anything?

Obviously not to wait to the point we were at in the spring. They should set a threshold that when new hospitalizations exceed that it means there are too many serious cases. The number can and should be far below what we had then. But if there are only a couple of new hospitalizations a day then its obviously not concerning and means that majority of cases are mild.

Being hospitalized nowadays is not a sure death sentence like it was back then and I would still rather say to use hospitalizations over new cases as a metric.

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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #102 on: October 05, 2020, 06:50:06 PM »
Obviously not to wait to the point we were at in the spring. They should set a threshold that when new hospitalizations exceed that it means there are too many serious cases. The number can and should be far below what we had then. But if there are only a couple of new hospitalizations a day then its obviously not concerning and means that majority of cases are mild.

Being hospitalized nowadays is not a sure death sentence like it was back then and I would still rather say to use hospitalizations over new cases as a metric.
Who's & how many lives should we sacrifice till we reach this magic number of hospitalizations you speak of ? Some of these people being hospitalized wonít make it out.
BTW in one of hatzolahs warnings they begged people to go to the hospital & not wait it out till itís very severe. Seems like people are avoiding hospitals at all costs.

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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #103 on: October 05, 2020, 06:55:28 PM »
Obviously not to wait to the point we were at in the spring. They should set a threshold that when new hospitalizations exceed that it means there are too many serious cases. The number can and should be far below what we had then. But if there are only a couple of new hospitalizations a day then its obviously not concerning and means that majority of cases are mild.

Being hospitalized nowadays is not a sure death sentence like it was back then and I would still rather say to use hospitalizations over new cases as a metric.

Ahhh so people who are incapable of drawing any fine line will suddenly cooperate when some magical number is hit. Yup sounds like something sure to work. Just like some who said that when we reach 25 cases a day we should take it seriously all take it seriously now, right?
Feelings don't care about your facts

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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #104 on: October 05, 2020, 07:04:00 PM »
Let's start with new hospitalizations.

When that has gone up to uncalled for levels then most ppl will agree action needs to be taken

Most ppl don't really care about new cases or positivity rates especially if many/most are mild.

The amount of hospitalizations in Jewish communities is much higher than elsewhere. Are you proposing that we need to first fill up the hospitals with Jews before we can start caring?