Author Topic: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again  (Read 91060 times)

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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #260 on: October 06, 2020, 11:22:07 PM »
Someone at the meal wasnt feeling great. Tested positive motzei Y"t. I tested positive 4 days later.
4% of people tested does not seem like its a high number when the focus groups are not the same. In the 9 neighborhoods, only people with symptoms were testing vs the rest everyone was getting tested.

I'm not saying there was no recklessness. However, this data isnt that bad. (IMHO)

Jews in NYC are lucky that many non-jews live in the same zip codes (and according to your anecdotal evidence those gentiles really enjoy testing) otherwise we'd be seeing positivity rates much closer to Lakewood (30%).
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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #262 on: October 06, 2020, 11:23:45 PM »

Next time chuck in there a smiley.  ;) It is difficult to tell with the rest of the fiery messages going on

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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #263 on: October 06, 2020, 11:26:01 PM »
https://nypost.com/2020/10/05/cuomo-de-blasio-both-ignore-science-sense-in-latest-lockdown-moves/

Mentions the disparity of tests per 100k in certain neighborhoods.

Test rate per 100k - seems to be a cumulative number, not a running daily tally of positives/tests. So if 10k people tested in March and only 100 people tested in September how is the cumulative total insightful? More fake news?
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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #264 on: October 06, 2020, 11:28:16 PM »
Test rate per 100k - seems to be a cumulative number, not a running daily tally of positives/tests. So if 10k people tested in March and only 100 people tested in September how is the cumulative total insightful? More fake news?
Could it be a rolling average?
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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #265 on: October 06, 2020, 11:28:43 PM »
No one is talking that way to people who were compliant. The ones who weren't and still insist on bellyaching about anti-Semitism and being singled out deserve to be reminded that they were told this was coming, and now they need to accept the consequences like adults.
the ones screaming anti-semitism while I don't agree with it have made one good point, it might be best to hear them out and not just dismiss them.
When it's a riot and people aren't socially distancing burning buildings (which causes smoke which transports droplets and particles) and looting many have not worn masks and that was ok, but this, we need drastic action!
This point I must say makes it sound like there is an agenda going on.
I don't agree with it but it definitely is a fair point that needs to be addressed.

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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #266 on: October 06, 2020, 11:28:54 PM »
https://nypost.com/2020/10/05/cuomo-de-blasio-both-ignore-science-sense-in-latest-lockdown-moves/

Mentions the disparity of tests per 100k in certain neighborhoods.

Well put article. Thanks for sharing.

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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #267 on: October 06, 2020, 11:29:17 PM »
So now all of the shuls that werent requiring mask and dont care about the law will continue as is, and the ones that were open in a safe manor and care about the law will have to drastically change their operations. what did this accomplish?
What is needed is enforcement of existing laws.

Not so bold prediction - there won’t be any enforcement, at least initially. And we’ll continue on our ways, and the situation will remain bad if not getting worse. Then NYC will get fed up and actually start enforcing, it will look real ugly, and we’ll fire off our press releases calling everyone anti-semites.

Can't wait.
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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #268 on: October 06, 2020, 11:34:43 PM »
Could it be a rolling average?

It could be anything, but without any context or sources, I will assume that it's fake news.

Prime example - Park Slope is singled out for much higher testing than other neighborhoods, which supposedly is unfairly making Park Slope look great. But what it failed to mention is that Park Slope also has one of the lowest antibody rates in the entire NYC. It isn't just increased COVID testing that's making it look good. It literally has been one of the safest neighborhoods in NYC since the start. https://patch.com/new-york/parkslope/park-slope-sees-lowest-coronavirus-antibody-test-rate-brooklyn
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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #269 on: October 06, 2020, 11:35:05 PM »
Not so bold prediction - there won’t be any enforcement, at least initially. And we’ll continue on our ways, and the situation will remain bad if not getting worse. Then NYC will get fed up and actually start enforcing, it will look real ugly, and we’ll fire off our press releases calling everyone anti-semites.

Can't wait.
It will be held up in court.
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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #270 on: October 06, 2020, 11:37:08 PM »
It will be held up in court.

What I've learned from DDF, perhaps it's not true - is that constitutionally, houses of worship cannot have stricter rules than similar gatherings. And they don't. In fact all mass gatherings are banned except for worship. What am I getting wrong?
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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #271 on: October 06, 2020, 11:37:32 PM »
Not so bold prediction - there won’t be any enforcement, at least initially. And we’ll continue on our ways, and the situation will remain bad if not getting worse. Then NYC will get fed up and actually start enforcing, it will look real ugly, and we’ll fire off our press releases calling everyone anti-semites.

Can't wait.

If they won't enforce over the 2nd days yom tov, then they totally missed the point on this one.

Not that I'm complaining... just saying....

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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #273 on: October 06, 2020, 11:41:54 PM »
What I've learned from DDF, perhaps it's not true - is that constitutionally, houses of worship cannot have stricter rules than similar gatherings. And they don't. In fact all mass gatherings are banned except for worship. What am I getting wrong?
How about not condemning the protests/riots?

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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #274 on: October 06, 2020, 11:42:23 PM »
the ones screaming anti-semitism while I don't agree with it have made one good point, it might be best to hear them out and not just dismiss them.
When it's a riot and people aren't socially distancing burning buildings (which causes smoke which transports droplets and particles) and looting many have not worn masks and that was ok, but this, we need drastic action!
This point I must say makes it sound like there is an agenda going on.
I don't agree with it but it definitely is a fair point that needs to be addressed.

There is only one fair point, which I mentioned on the Tweets thread. The disparity in the ways outdoor gatherings have been policed is atrocious. Full stop. Past that, comparing outdoor gatherings/riots/protests of any kind to indoor gatherings is a non-starter. You don't need to like the way either is being handled (I don't), but they cannot be compared.
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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #275 on: October 06, 2020, 11:42:39 PM »
If they won't enforce over the 2nd days yom tov, then they totally missed the point on this one.

Not that I'm complaining... just saying....
Hopefully it won't be needed, but if c"v applicable people will be totally right to say i told you so to you.
Feelings don't care about your facts

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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #276 on: October 06, 2020, 11:43:53 PM »
How about not condemning the protests/riots?
Outdoors is a very big distinction which has already held up in court.
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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #277 on: October 06, 2020, 11:44:27 PM »
What I've learned from DDF, perhaps it's not true - is that constitutionally, houses of worship cannot have stricter rules than similar gatherings. And they don't. In fact all mass gatherings are banned except for worship. What am I getting wrong?

No it was having a double standard for businesses and houses of worship and also because of this:

How about not condemning the protests/riots?

Read this article, explains it very well:  https://hamodia.com/2020/06/26/federal-judge-overturns-new-york-limitation-religious-gatherings/

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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #278 on: October 06, 2020, 11:48:13 PM »
Hopefully it won't be needed, but if c"v applicable people will be totally right to say i told you so to you.

Give it a rest.

Please.

And thank you.

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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #279 on: October 06, 2020, 11:48:56 PM »
What I've learned from DDF, perhaps it's not true - is that constitutionally, houses of worship cannot have stricter rules than similar gatherings. And they don't. In fact all mass gatherings are banned except for worship. What am I getting wrong?
If only the only issue is that we are we being singled out only because houses of worship.

Or consider the following:

1. Our stores and streets were singled out more than others.
2. We were Singled out in the news and tweets constantly
3. Only our parks were closed. (Please don't try to argue this)
4. Press conference regarding mask compliance had to be recorded in 18th Ave Park.


This is off the top of my head.. The list goes on and on.   

I'm not in denial about compliance in our communities, but to say that we aren't being singled out is straight up naive.