Author Topic: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again  (Read 91136 times)

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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #281 on: October 06, 2020, 11:53:36 PM »
Outdoors is a very big distinction which has already held up in court.
No difference is made under the current law between indoor and outdoor religious gatherings, still 10 max

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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #282 on: October 06, 2020, 11:54:42 PM »
I'm not in denial about compliance in our communities
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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #283 on: October 06, 2020, 11:55:36 PM »
No difference is made under the current law between indoor and outdoor religious gatherings, still 10 max
Leave it to those idiots to bungle it
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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #284 on: October 06, 2020, 11:55:51 PM »
If only the only issue is that we are we being singled out only because houses of worship.

Or consider the following:

1. Our stores and streets were singled out more than others.
2. We were Singled out in the news and tweets constantly
3. Only our parks were closed. (Please don't try to argue this)
4. Press conference regarding mask compliance had to be recorded in 18th Ave Park.


This is off the top of my head.. The list goes on and on.   

I'm not in denial about compliance in our communities, but to say that we aren't being singled out is straight up naive.

Do you mean to say that the metrics the government has been parroting since 6 months ago as the parameters for a shutdown have singled out your neighborhood? Sorry, but stats don't care about your feelings.
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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #285 on: October 06, 2020, 11:56:44 PM »
Do you mean to say that the metrics the government has been parroting since 6 months ago as the parameters for a shutdown have singled out your neighborhood? Sorry, but stats don't care about your feelings.
There was clearly selective enforcement
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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #286 on: October 06, 2020, 11:57:56 PM »
There was clearly selective enforcement

Which zip codes could have been included in this enforcement?
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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #287 on: October 06, 2020, 11:58:55 PM »
Which zip codes could have been included in this enforcement?
Look back a few months and this was all clearly documented.
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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #288 on: October 06, 2020, 11:59:24 PM »
the ones screaming anti-semitism while I don't agree with it have made one good point, it might be best to hear them out and not just dismiss them.
When it's a riot and people aren't socially distancing burning buildings (which causes smoke which transports droplets and particles) and looting many have not worn masks and that was ok, but this, we need drastic action!
This point I must say makes it sound like there is an agenda going on.
I don't agree with it but it definitely is a fair point that needs to be addressed.
Not really such a great point. They ignored the riots and they (for the most part) ignored the frum non compliance. What they won't ignore is a massive outbreak. I have seen no reporting of that happening in the wake of BLM protests. 

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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #289 on: October 06, 2020, 11:59:57 PM »
https://twitter.com/SVNewsAlerts/status/1313687159375790080?s=20
This is gonna get really ugly unfortunately. And we will have people crying here as to why we aren’t getting favorable coverage for our protests a la the ones for BLM. Sigh

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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #291 on: October 07, 2020, 12:01:51 AM »
I have seen no reporting of that happening in the wake of BLM protests.
the reason for that was they told the testers and contact tracers they aren't allowed to ask about whether someone went to a protest.

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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #292 on: October 07, 2020, 12:03:55 AM »
the reason for that was they told the testers and contact tracers they aren't allowed to ask about whether someone went to a protest.
That’s because it would be impossible to contact people at the protests anyways. All it would do was turn people off from cooperating with the contact tracers.

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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #293 on: October 07, 2020, 12:04:17 AM »
the reason for that was they told the testers and contact tracers they aren't allowed to ask about whether someone went to a protest.

How many cases did NYC have over the summer while all those massive protests were happening?
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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #294 on: October 07, 2020, 12:04:47 AM »
the reason for that was they told the testers and contact tracers they aren't allowed to ask about whether someone went to a protest.

But regardless there was no massive increase in positive cases due to the outbreak.
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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #295 on: October 07, 2020, 12:05:12 AM »
This is gonna get really ugly unfortunately.
Hopefully not. I dont believe the local precincts will enforce. Everyone will ignore the rules and life will continue on. Post Y"T there will be mass testing (only if you have no symptoms) to flatten out the numbers.

Am I too optimistic ? Perhaps

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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #296 on: October 07, 2020, 12:07:41 AM »
Look back a few months and this was all clearly documented.

Wasn't paying close attention but from what I remember from DDF nearly every zipcode with high positive rates had a significant Jewish presence. Is that untrue?
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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #297 on: October 07, 2020, 12:09:04 AM »
Wasn't paying close attention but from what I remember from DDF nearly every zipcode with high positive rates had a significant Jewish presence. Is that untrue?
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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #299 on: October 07, 2020, 12:10:55 AM »
Wasn't paying close attention but from what I remember from DDF nearly every zipcode with high positive rates had a significant Jewish presence. Is that untrue?

Ultimately, yes. But the numbers in the summer were the same all over NY, and he hit the parks very unevenly. The other stuff you can blame on lower compliance, but no one was complying outdoors in NY over the summer.
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