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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #460 on: October 08, 2020, 02:50:34 PM »
I will leave that to the law firm to decide. It's a much larger issue than you and I can even imagine. (I was at a meeting last night until 2 am, although some members here make me wonder why I am bothering to do so, nevermind for their benefit)
I wish you would spend your efforts trying to prevent the spread instead.
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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #461 on: October 08, 2020, 02:50:41 PM »
Why didn't they do this instead? It's probably more effective and it won't cause bad blood.

They did. It didn't work. That's why we're here.
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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #462 on: October 08, 2020, 02:51:31 PM »
What would be the cost of proper filtration/ventilation for every shul and how long would it take to get it installed? What happens until then? What happens for non-compliance?

I agree. Germany is starting that in schools. If only governments were more competent. HEPA filters and fans are dirt cheap
It shouldn't take long at all to get it installed. Maybe they should give out HEPA filters instead of masks.

For non-compliance, maybe it should be like building code. If they were trying to work with the frum community instead of against them you would see a lot more compliance.
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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #463 on: October 08, 2020, 02:53:17 PM »
I will leave that to the law firm to decide. It's a much larger issue than you and I can even imagine. (I was at a meeting last night until 2 am, although some members here make me wonder why I am bothering to do so, nevermind for their benefit)
I fully believe that it is a true issue. Lets be clear that the issue lies squarely on te soulders of those who brought the government eyes poking around with their stupidity. What happens when the case is lost because of those who just gave too much ammunition to Coumo and his ilk? Does that help or hurt matters over the long term? When you want to fix an issue you need to avoid giving them a good argument that tey are right.
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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #464 on: October 08, 2020, 02:53:48 PM »
I wish you would spend your efforts trying to prevent the spread instead.
For the record, I do my part and always wear a mask.
I just wish some would spend their efforts trying to prevent the spread sinas chinam
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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #465 on: October 08, 2020, 02:56:16 PM »
For the record, I do my part and always wear a mask.
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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #466 on: October 08, 2020, 02:56:26 PM »
They did. It didn't work. That's why we're here.
When? What didn't work? I haven't heard of anyone inspecting HVAC systems. Never mind the fact that they never tried working WITH the frum community.
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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #467 on: October 08, 2020, 02:59:18 PM »
When? What didn't work? I haven't heard of anyone inspecting HVAC systems. Never mind the fact that they never tried working WITH the frum community.

You're confusing your arguments  :)  You and I are talking about mandated mask usage, not HVAC.
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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #468 on: October 08, 2020, 03:02:28 PM »
You're confusing my arguments  :) I am talking about mandated mask usage, not HVAC.
FTFY
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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #469 on: October 08, 2020, 03:05:43 PM »
He may not be rational, but that doesn't change the reality of the world we live in. He can't put troopers on a plane. He can mandate shuls and businesses be closed in the name of public safety. You can sue him.
If he can decide against freedom of religion based on his opinion,  why can't he do the same to airplanes? Make an executive order and thats it.   
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« Reply #470 on: October 08, 2020, 03:10:20 PM »
If he can decide against freedom of religion based on his opinion,  why can't he do the same to airplanes? Make an executive order and thats it.

He can make an EO in his state. You can argue the constitutionality of the contents of that EO through the legal system. He Cannot put troopers on a plane. It's just a bad argument. There are so many better ones to be made.
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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #471 on: October 08, 2020, 03:16:20 PM »
FTFY

You're right. I misunderstood when you wrote "this" to mean masks, not HVAC.
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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #472 on: October 08, 2020, 03:22:43 PM »
If he can decide against freedom of religion based on his opinion,  why can't he do the same to airplanes? Make an executive order and thats it.   
He has no legal authority on interstate travel.
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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #473 on: October 08, 2020, 03:25:05 PM »
He has no legal authority on interstate travel.
You're right.  My point was really that it seems like a free for all for government officials and they aren't following basic rules or the constitution.   I did not articulate it correctly earlier with an example that doesn't make sense ;)
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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #474 on: October 08, 2020, 05:13:22 PM »
If you thought for a second there'll be enforcement in NYC. LOL.
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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #475 on: October 08, 2020, 05:27:03 PM »
If you thought for a second there'll be enforcement in NYC. LOL.
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« Reply #476 on: October 08, 2020, 05:49:45 PM »
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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #477 on: October 08, 2020, 06:03:55 PM »
His tweet was deleted. Fakenews?

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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #479 on: October 08, 2020, 06:27:56 PM »
If you thought for a second there'll be enforcement in NYC. LOL.
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