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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #580 on: October 14, 2020, 12:19:34 PM »
Ie, you're making it up as you go along. I expect a little better from you.

According to the Bureau of Transportation Statistics, between June 2018 and June 2019, there were 790 million enplaned passengers in the US. An enplaned passenger is counted each time someone boards a plane. So one-way, with no plane changes. Take in account plane transfers, roundtrip travel, people who fly a few times a year, and frequent flyers who take tens or hundreds of flights a year, and you're left with a small percentage of people who actually fly in any given year.

I don't know how to get hard numbers from the frum community. I don't know if it's even possible. But I don't think it's a stretch to say that between the frum Jews who come to FL for Pesach, Succos, summer vacation, yeshiva week, and simchos, plus the ones who travel to Israel, let alone Europe or other places in the US and the world, we represent an disproportionate percentage of flyers and flights taken.

It may be very unscientific, but I don't think it's a completely uneducated guess.
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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #581 on: October 14, 2020, 12:24:05 PM »
According to the Bureau of Transportation Statistics, between June 2018 and June 2019, there were 790 million enplaned passengers in the US. An enplaned passenger is counted each time someone boards a plane. So one-way, with no plane changes. Take in account plane transfers, roundtrip travel, people who fly a few times a year, and frequent flyers who take tens or hundreds of flights a year, and you're left with a small percentage of people who actually fly in any given year.

I don't know how to get hard numbers from the frum community. I don't know if it's even possible. But I don't think it's a stretch to say that between the frum Jews who come to FL for Pesach, Succos, summer vacation, yeshiva week, and simchos, plus the ones who travel to Israel, let alone Europe or other places in the US and the world, we represent an disproportionate percentage of flyers and flights taken.

It may be very unscientific, but I don't think it's a completely uneducated guess.
Why are you assuming most flights are taken by people who fly tens or hundreds of times a year, but you're assuming most Jews fly to FL a few times a year? I know many many Frum Jews who don't fly every year.
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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #582 on: October 14, 2020, 12:30:31 PM »
Why are you assuming most flights are taken by people who fly tens or hundreds of times a year, but you're assuming most Jews fly to FL a few times a year? I know many many Frum Jews who don't fly every year.

Where do you see any of those assumptions?
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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #583 on: October 14, 2020, 12:31:15 PM »
Why are you assuming most flights are taken by people who fly tens or hundreds of times a year, but you're assuming most Jews fly to FL a few times a year? I know many many Frum Jews who don't fly every year.
Because WILL ALL YOU NEW YORKERS STOP COMING TO FLORIDA LAREADY!!!!!!!
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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #584 on: October 14, 2020, 12:36:17 PM »
Where do you see any of those assumptions?
Right here
According to the Bureau of Transportation Statistics, between June 2018 and June 2019, there were 790 million enplaned passengers in the US. An enplaned passenger is counted each time someone boards a plane. So one-way, with no plane changes. Take in account plane transfers, roundtrip travel, people who fly a few times a year, and frequent flyers who take tens or hundreds of flights a year, and you're left with a small percentage of people who actually fly in any given year.

I don't know how to get hard numbers from the frum community. I don't know if it's even possible. But I don't think it's a stretch to say that between the frum Jews who come to FL for Pesach, Succos, summer vacation, yeshiva week, and simchos, plus the ones who travel to Israel, let alone Europe or other places in the US and the world, we represent an disproportionate percentage of flyers and flights taken.

It may be very unscientific, but I don't think it's a completely uneducated guess.
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #585 on: October 14, 2020, 12:42:13 PM »
Right here

That doesn't say that most flights are taken by frequent flyers. It also doesn't say that most frum Jews fly to FL every year.
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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #586 on: October 14, 2020, 12:51:10 PM »
Because WILL ALL YOU NEW YORKERS STOP COMING TO FLORIDA LAREADY!!!!!!!
COVID aside, it's great for the frum economy. There are many frum services provided by frum FL residents.
That doesn't say that most flights are taken by frequent flyers. It also doesn't say that most frum Jews fly to FL every year.
Ok not most, but you haven't provided a reason to assume there isn't an equal proportion of frequent flyers among frum Jews and the rest of the country.
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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #587 on: October 14, 2020, 01:00:51 PM »
Ok not most, but you haven't provided a reason to assume there isn't an equal proportion of frequent flyers among frum Jews and the rest of the country.

I didn't say that, either. I brought up frequent flyers only with regards to total number of passengers, as a way to illustrate how I believe there are actually fewer individuals travelling in a year than people seem to think. I saw one estimate at 6% of the US population flies in a year. Even if we assume 15%, do you think it's a stretch to say that more than 15% of frum Jews travel in any year?
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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #588 on: October 14, 2020, 01:10:58 PM »
What a ridiculous conversation to have about what percentage of frum Jews travel based on how many visit FL each year. LOL
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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #589 on: October 14, 2020, 01:17:06 PM »
What a ridiculous conversation to have about what percentage of frum Jews travel based on how many visit FL each year. LOL
The fact that when discussing frum traveling, Florida is overwhelmingly the one destination mentioned, shows what travel geeks we really are.

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« Reply #590 on: October 14, 2020, 01:19:43 PM »
Of all the controversial things I've said on here, I didn't think "frum Jews travel more than other groups" would be so hotly contested.
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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #591 on: October 14, 2020, 01:22:21 PM »
Of all the controversial things I've said on here, I didn't think "frum Jews travel more than other groups" would be so hotly contested.
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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #592 on: October 14, 2020, 01:23:09 PM »
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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #593 on: October 14, 2020, 01:24:16 PM »
Of all the controversial things I've said on here, I didn't think "frum Jews travel more than other groups" would be so hotly contested.
There are controversial things and then there are claims without any basis.
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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #594 on: October 14, 2020, 01:25:10 PM »
I didn't say that, either. I brought up frequent flyers only with regards to total number of passengers, as a way to illustrate how I believe there are actually fewer individuals travelling in a year than people seem to think. I saw one estimate at 6% of the US population flies in a year. Even if we assume 15%, do you think it's a stretch to say that more than 15% of frum Jews travel in any year?
I see no reason to assume one way or another.
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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #595 on: October 14, 2020, 01:25:55 PM »
Of all the controversial things I've said on here, I didn't think "frum Jews travel more than other groups" would be so hotly contested.
Do you mean the same ones who think the world ends outside Brooklyn?
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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #596 on: October 14, 2020, 01:40:07 PM »
Do you mean the same ones who think the world ends outside Brooklyn?

The same ones who still manage to end up at Chabad Houses in the most random places on Earth?
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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #597 on: October 14, 2020, 02:51:36 PM »
I like the direction this thread is going.... Welcome back, DDF. ;)

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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #598 on: October 14, 2020, 04:04:02 PM »
Aside from not being in a school building, are there any benefits to basement classes?
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Re: Deblasio Shutting 9 ZIP Codes Again
« Reply #599 on: October 14, 2020, 04:26:43 PM »
Aside from not being in a school building, are there any benefits to basement classes?
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