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Re: COVIDiots
« Reply #40 on: October 05, 2020, 09:28:43 PM »
Friend was davening in Shomer Shabbos in a mask in the back. Guy next to him in a mask says, "you positive, too?"
Are you the one in that VN going around whatsapp?
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: COVIDiots
« Reply #41 on: October 05, 2020, 09:29:20 PM »
Are you the one in that VN going around whatsapp?
LOL. No Whatsapp... and I don't VN, either.

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Re: COVIDiots
« Reply #42 on: October 05, 2020, 09:30:10 PM »
Are you the one in that VN going around whatsapp?

Unfortunately this (or similar) probably happened more than once and in other Shuls too.
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Re: COVIDiots
« Reply #43 on: October 05, 2020, 09:38:29 PM »
Is this not something we can have all the rabbanim in agreement on to put out a joint statement?
But which underlying attitudes lead to this?
Feelings don't care about your facts

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Re: COVIDiots
« Reply #44 on: October 05, 2020, 09:41:23 PM »
Friend was davening in Shomer Shabbos in a mask in the back. Guy next to him in a mask says, "you positive, too?"
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Re: COVIDiots
« Reply #45 on: October 05, 2020, 10:04:57 PM »
I was davening outside next to a window over Yom Tov since we were exposed to someone who was at our house and then tested positive. I had people trying to convince me to come inside "Nobody cares anyhow". I answered that if they don't care it is more of a reason to stay outside since they would go spread it around if they actually catch it.
Feelings don't care about your facts

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Re: COVIDiots
« Reply #46 on: October 05, 2020, 11:32:27 PM »
I was davening outside next to a window over Yom Tov since we were exposed to someone who was at our house and then tested positive. I had people trying to convince me to come inside "Nobody cares anyhow". I answered that if they don't care it is more of a reason to stay outside since they would go spread it around if they actually catch it.
Good for you, the peer pressure is ridiculous

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Re: COVIDiots
« Reply #47 on: October 05, 2020, 11:34:35 PM »
Since you phrase it as "my dad had a worker" .... makes me think that this is your dad's business (forgive me if I am wrong). So my question is, what happens to this woman, had she said - "I took a covid test, can I stay home or work from home today?" Does she need to take a vacation day? A sick day? Will her pay get docked?
I think she would have had to take a sick day
I believe part of the federal act requires paying full wages to those who can't work or telework due to covid

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Re: COVIDiots
« Reply #48 on: October 06, 2020, 12:00:05 AM »
There is 1 person who was exposed but not to the point of needing to quarantine, out of an abundance of caution he started wearing a mask (now more than 2 weeks later he is still from the minority wearing masks.
care to explain this.

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Re: COVIDiots
« Reply #49 on: October 06, 2020, 12:03:46 AM »
Are you the one in that VN going around whatsapp?

I know the person who's voice that is. 100% true. It's from a month ago.

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Re: COVIDiots
« Reply #50 on: October 06, 2020, 12:25:16 AM »
care to explain this.
Maybe was together with someone who later tested positive but was wearing a mask, for example.

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Re: COVIDiots
« Reply #51 on: October 06, 2020, 12:43:30 AM »
Maybe was together with someone who later tested positive but was wearing a mask, for example.
if they were both wearing N95s or masks of that sort i'd agree with you, since it's not a definite exposure. The 3 ply (cloth and those sort of masks) are not preventing exposure, if they did less first responders and medical staff would've died.

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Re: COVIDiots
« Reply #52 on: October 06, 2020, 12:56:23 AM »
if they were both wearing N95s or masks of that sort i'd agree with you, since it's not a definite exposure. The 3 ply (cloth and those sort of masks) are not preventing exposure, if they did less first responders and medical staff would've died.
The CDC recommends quarantine only when exposed mask less for 15 minutes. So while I hear what you are saying, you can understand why someone in that situation would consider it a major chumra

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Re: COVIDiots
« Reply #53 on: October 06, 2020, 01:08:46 AM »
The CDC recommends quarantine only when exposed mask less for 15 minutes. So while I hear what you are saying, you can understand why someone in that situation would consider it a major chumra
while that is the requirement by the CDC you can see how ridiculous it sounds.
If that's the case why should masks be required when walking in the street?
The CDC also says it's airborne and if that's the case why do they only require 3 ply masks or better yet face coverings?
No matter which way it's sliced there are so many questions.
This is partially the reason for people not complying.
I'm not saying it's a good excuse, it's not but the science they claim to be using is questionable at best.

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Re: COVIDiots
« Reply #54 on: October 06, 2020, 02:58:23 AM »
I believe part of the federal act requires paying full wages to those who can't work or telework due to covid
That was pure speculation on my part. I'll ask my dad today
Life isn't about checking the boxes. Nobody cares.

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Re: COVIDiots
« Reply #55 on: October 06, 2020, 08:38:56 AM »
while that is the requirement by the CDC you can see how ridiculous it sounds.
If that's the case why should masks be required when walking in the street?
The CDC also says it's airborne and if that's the case why do they only require 3 ply masks or better yet face coverings?
No matter which way it's sliced there are so many questions.
This is partially the reason for people not complying.
I'm not saying it's a good excuse, it's not but the science they claim to be using is questionable at best.
Who requires masks in the street?

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Re: COVIDiots
« Reply #56 on: October 06, 2020, 10:04:32 AM »
The CDC recommends quarantine only when exposed mask less for 15 minutes. So while I hear what you are saying, you can understand why someone in that situation would consider it a major chumra
Where have you seen that quarantine is only if you were exposed mask-less?
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Re: COVIDiots
« Reply #57 on: October 06, 2020, 10:05:34 AM »
Where have you seen that quarantine is only if you were exposed mask-less?
CDC

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Re: COVIDiots
« Reply #58 on: October 06, 2020, 10:07:59 AM »
while that is the requirement by the CDC you can see how ridiculous it sounds.
If that's the case why should masks be required when walking in the street?
The CDC also says it's airborne and if that's the case why do they only require 3 ply masks or better yet face coverings?
No matter which way it's sliced there are so many questions.
This is partially the reason for people not complying.
I'm not saying it's a good excuse, it's not but the science they claim to be using is questionable at best.
1- the CDC does *not* say its airborne
2- even if airborne, masks reduce spread
3- where does the CDC require masks in the street? They only recommend it when not possible to socially distance outdoors
4- there is no excuse for people not complying because they have a boich kasha on the CDC which they never paid attention to before. You have a medical question call your doctor. To just ignore everything is ridiculous. And people in general are not. Except in our communities. Still think it’s the CDC?
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Re: COVIDiots
« Reply #59 on: October 06, 2020, 10:08:49 AM »
CDC
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/if-you-are-sick/quarantine.html

Doesn’t say that here but there was another place where they put out criteria that might say that. Can you share?
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