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Re: OSM (Our Shuls Matter) Protests
« Reply #240 on: October 09, 2020, 07:08:23 AM »

This is the photographer:
https://nypost.com/2020/10/07/photographer-was-terrified-of-orthodox-jewish-protesters-beating-him/

Out of all the protests I’ve been to I’ve never seen this level of violence from protesters toward ....anyone for that matter

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Is this person in any way seeking to be honest, or is he simply seeking to besmirch Jews. Go ahead and judge him favorably and judge the Frum Jews unfavorably. Good luck.

I'm not qualified to call him a moser, but the photographer is not just an innocent guy out there doing his job. Defending the photographer as some "inncoent" is just as bad as beating him.

First of all, you got the wrong journo. The one they are all talking about is Kornbluh. Second, your source is the NY Post, known to lie and frame things in less than honest ways. Third, the guy doesn't say it was the most violence ever committed by protesters. He says it was the most he has ever experienced. If you see the video of them chasing him, I don't doubt that his statement is true. Here's the actual quote:

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I was terrified, even the people trying to help me were telling me to turn my camera off, and seemed like they might attack me once I did,” Bruce Schaff told The Post Wednesday. “Out of all the protests I’ve been to I’ve never seen this level of violence from protesters toward members of the press, photographers, or anyone for that matter."
When you find yourself agreeing with me more often than not, it's time for a cheshbon hanefesh.

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Re: OSM (Our Shuls Matter) Protests
« Reply #241 on: October 09, 2020, 07:50:30 AM »
Just came here to post this shiur. Should be required watching
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Re: OSM (Our Shuls Matter) Protests
« Reply #243 on: October 09, 2020, 12:31:48 PM »
Just came here to post this shiur. Should be required watching
Finally a Rabbi deared to open his mouth
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Re: OSM (Our Shuls Matter) Protests
« Reply #244 on: October 09, 2020, 12:33:35 PM »
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Re: OSM (Our Shuls Matter) Protests
« Reply #245 on: October 09, 2020, 12:34:48 PM »
Just came here to post this shiur. Should be required watching
Who has that kind of time to watch? Where's the 3 minute version?
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Re: OSM (Our Shuls Matter) Protests
« Reply #246 on: October 09, 2020, 12:38:48 PM »
Who has that kind of time to watch? Where's the 3 minute version?
I stopped listening when he claimed the NY authorities are targeting Jews. I believe the NY authorities aren't acting severely enough only out of fear of being called anti semitic and losing favor with Jewish influence.
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Re: OSM (Our Shuls Matter) Protests
« Reply #247 on: October 09, 2020, 12:39:47 PM »
When you find yourself agreeing with me more often than not, it's time for a cheshbon hanefesh.

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Re: OSM (Our Shuls Matter) Protests
« Reply #248 on: October 09, 2020, 12:44:45 PM »
I believe the NY authorities aren't acting severely enough only out of fear of being called anti semitic and losing favor with Jewish influence.

They're already being called anti-semitic and have already lost favor...

And how much more severe did you want them to go?  There's an enforcement issue as it is.

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Re: OSM (Our Shuls Matter) Protests
« Reply #249 on: October 09, 2020, 12:46:10 PM »
They're already being called anti-semitic and have already lost favor...
And that changes my comment how?
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Re: OSM (Our Shuls Matter) Protests
« Reply #250 on: October 09, 2020, 12:49:14 PM »
And that changes my comment how?

So why the fear?

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Re: OSM (Our Shuls Matter) Protests
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Re: OSM (Our Shuls Matter) Protests
« Reply #252 on: October 09, 2020, 01:31:19 PM »
First of all, you got the wrong journo. The one they are all talking about is Kornbluh. Second, your source is the NY Post, known to lie and frame things in less than honest ways. Third, the guy doesn't say it was the most violence ever committed by protesters. He says it was the most he has ever experienced. If you see the video of them chasing him, I don't doubt that his statement is true. Here's the actual quote:

Thanks for giving kornbluth and the photographer the benefit of the doubt. Thanks for assuming the worst about the Frum Jews. https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=117460.msg2334861#msg2334861

Sorry that the pesky little facts get into the way.

Oh, and if he hasn't seen that level of "violence", pray tell exactly which protests he's been covering.
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Re: OSM (Our Shuls Matter) Protests
« Reply #253 on: October 09, 2020, 01:32:40 PM »
I stopped listening when he claimed the NY authorities are targeting Jews. I believe the NY authorities aren't acting severely enough only out of fear of being called anti semitic and losing favor with Jewish influence.

Where do you live?
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Re: OSM (Our Shuls Matter) Protests
« Reply #254 on: October 09, 2020, 01:36:21 PM »
Link?
Dont think its appropriate to share screenshots of his WhatsApp conversations.