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Who Will Win The 2020 Election?

Biden
41 (26.5%)
Trump
79 (51%)
Tied up in court/decided by Supreme Court
32 (20.6%)
Electoral Tie
3 (1.9%)

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Re: Who Will Win The 2020 Election?
« Reply #200 on: November 02, 2020, 09:25:27 PM »
Show me one poll where Traflagar is further left than the consensus? There are plenty of races the Dems won in 2018.

I don't know anything about Quinnipac. Happy to toss that one out of the equation if it helps.

I still believe Biden is more likely to win the popular vote by 15%+ than Trump is to win.
I am in a rush now but Testers race in Montana. Trafalgar said that he will win. Rs really wanted to win that seat. And had a shot at it. There are more which I will look up later
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Re: Who Will Win The 2020 Election?
« Reply #201 on: November 02, 2020, 09:26:15 PM »
The reason I feel good about PA is because the same polls which are now saying Biden will win FL by 5 points are saying so on PA. We know that FL is extremely close with Trump being the favorite. The same way these polls are wrong in FL they will be wrong in PA.


Rasmussen     Trump FL 47-48 PA 47-50
ABC News               FL 50-48  PA 44-51

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Re: Who Will Win The 2020 Election?
« Reply #202 on: November 02, 2020, 09:26:19 PM »
Odds to Win the 2020 Presidential Election
Joe Biden      -190   
Donald Trump   +165   

This has held steady.
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Re: Who Will Win The 2020 Election?
« Reply #203 on: November 02, 2020, 09:28:45 PM »
Ok. I can't help with their unfounded beliefs. They are the ones who believe in legislating from the bench to further their agenda. If they're comfortable with that, why would they take issue with a justice who at least says they're not going to do that and stick to the letter of the law.
You call their beliefs unfounded. I would love to agree with you but votes along party lines proves their point if it keeps happening.
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Re: Who Will Win The 2020 Election?
« Reply #204 on: November 02, 2020, 09:29:17 PM »
You call their beliefs unfounded. I would love to agree with you but votes along party lines proves their point if it keeps happening.
Ok.

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Re: Who Will Win The 2020 Election?
« Reply #205 on: November 02, 2020, 09:35:39 PM »
I am in a rush now but Testers race in Montana. Trafalgar said that he will win. Rs really wanted to win that seat. And had a shot at it. There are more which I will look up later
There wasn't a single pollster than called the seat republican
Trafalgar gave D/Tester the smallest lead of any poll (1%), and was wrong when Tester won by 3%.

He always errs pro Republican and not once errs pro Democrat. It's because he's simply guessing a little bit to the right. He's a complete clown.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2018/senate/mt/montana_senate_rosendale_vs_tester-6306.html

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Re: Who Will Win The 2020 Election?
« Reply #206 on: November 02, 2020, 09:40:16 PM »
Trafalgar's a complete clown.
He does look like a clown a little.

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Re: Who Will Win The 2020 Election?
« Reply #207 on: November 02, 2020, 09:41:34 PM »
He does look like a clown a little.
Yeah, that's part of what made me say it.
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Re: Who Will Win The 2020 Election?
« Reply #208 on: November 02, 2020, 10:13:32 PM »
Your prediction is worthless If you say Biden will win 400 electorals but Trump still has a chance.
https://twitter.com/Zigmanfreud/status/1323453977149669376

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Re: Who Will Win The 2020 Election?
« Reply #209 on: November 02, 2020, 10:22:28 PM »
Nate Silvers models are manipulated to give Trump an 11% chance. I posted the data calling him out on it.
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Re: Who Will Win The 2020 Election?
« Reply #210 on: November 02, 2020, 10:26:30 PM »
Nate Silvers models are manipulated to give Trump an 11% chance. I posted the data calling him out on it.
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Re: Who Will Win The 2020 Election?
« Reply #211 on: November 02, 2020, 10:29:51 PM »
You are going to be the go to guy!
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Re: Who Will Win The 2020 Election?
« Reply #212 on: November 02, 2020, 10:51:50 PM »
https://twitter.com/williamjordann/status/1323468628789002242?s=21

RCP is also titling it pro Trump to cover their @$$ on the off chance turnout renders all the polls are wrong.
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Re: Who Will Win The 2020 Election?
« Reply #213 on: November 02, 2020, 10:57:38 PM »
Mickey Mouse.

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Re: Who Will Win The 2020 Election?
« Reply #214 on: November 02, 2020, 11:04:57 PM »
Question for @PlatinumGuy - theoretically, if we learn shortly after polls close on the east coast that Trump won Florida, would you adjust the odds you gave him for winning the election, or would you still assert that he has almost no chance of winning?

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Re: Who Will Win The 2020 Election?
« Reply #215 on: November 02, 2020, 11:05:09 PM »
There wasn't a single pollster than called the seat republican
Trafalgar gave D/Tester the smallest lead of any poll (1%), and was wrong when Tester won by 3%.

He always errs pro Republican and not once errs pro Democrat. It's because he's simply guessing a little bit to the right. He's a complete clown.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2018/senate/mt/montana_senate_rosendale_vs_tester-6306.html
So he was within the margin of error. That's still considered accurate in the polling world. You know that... Others were tester + 9....
You can say what you think when you think what you say.

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Re: Who Will Win The 2020 Election?
« Reply #216 on: November 02, 2020, 11:07:47 PM »
So, what if Trump does win??

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Re: Who Will Win The 2020 Election?
« Reply #217 on: November 02, 2020, 11:12:15 PM »
Question for @PlatinumGuy - theoretically, if we learn shortly after polls close on the east coast that Trump won Florida, would you adjust the odds you gave him for winning the election, or would you still assert that he has almost no chance of winning?
We'll probably know NC before we know FL. I would go up to 10-20% I guess if he does win Florida. The turning point is definitely PA, then I'd give him 70%. If he loses NC he's probably toast even if he wins FL & PA though.


So he was within the margin of error. That's still considered accurate in the polling world. You know that... Others were tester + 9....
I didn't say he's always wrong, I said he's always just +3-5 Republican, and he's always wrong when the final results are left of the consensus.

So, what if Trump does win??

@PlatinumGuy I wonder how you deal with stress...
This is not at all what stresses me out, but walks/beach/wine/cigars
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Re: Who Will Win The 2020 Election?
« Reply #218 on: November 02, 2020, 11:27:29 PM »


Rasmussen     Trump FL 47-48 PA 47-50
ABC News               FL 50-48  PA 44-51
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Quinnipiac, Marist, and Monmouth, all A+ pollsters have bidens lead in FL and PA almost identical. Within a point or two. And there are more pollsters with the same idea but I'm going even with the so called A+ pollsters.
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Re: Who Will Win The 2020 Election?
« Reply #219 on: November 02, 2020, 11:41:26 PM »
According to Nate Silver's model, if you give Trump Texas and Florida, his chances of winning rise from 10 percent to 34 percent. If you add Ohio and Iowa, his prospects go up to 44 percent. Add Georgia and North Carolina, it's at 55 percent. Add Arizona, it's at 65 percent.

Just saying.
And how about if you add Pennsylvania?