Author Topic: NY Koen group to buy Israir  (Read 4777 times)

Online theyankel

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Aug 2013
  • Posts: 1128
  • Total likes: 74
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 5
    • View Profile
  • Location: Brooklyn, NY

Offline PlatinumGuy

  • Dansdeals Lifetime 10K Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Apr 2011
  • Posts: 15087
  • Total likes: 2432
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 11
    • View Profile
Re: NY Koen group to buy Israir
« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2020, 09:49:37 PM »
Dubai based Naum Koen bid on Israir
״וזה כלל גדול: שישנא אדם כל דבר שקר. וכל מה שיוסיף שנאה לדרכי השקר – יוסיף אהבה לתורה.״ - אורחות צדיקים

Offline Dan

  • Administrator
  • Dansdeals Lifetime 50K Diamond Elite
  • **********
  • Join Date: May 2008
  • Posts: 68893
  • Total likes: 17267
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 16442
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
  • Location: CLE
  • Programs: UA GS, AA EXP, DL Dirt, Hyatt Glob, Fairmont Lifetime Plat, DD Diamond, Blocked By @NeriaKraus
Re: NY Koen group to buy Israir
« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2020, 09:53:11 PM »
How does a Dubai based group based an Israeli airline?
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

Offline PlatinumGuy

  • Dansdeals Lifetime 10K Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Apr 2011
  • Posts: 15087
  • Total likes: 2432
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 11
    • View Profile
Re: NY Koen group to buy Israir
« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2020, 09:56:49 PM »
How does a Dubai based group based an Israeli airline?
It's a Ukranian Jew taking advantage of Dubai's tax regime (lack thereof)

Elal is classified as critical infrastructure is subject to government holding approval, besides for the fact the Israeli government, having founded Elal retained 'gold' shares with a special voting right to veto any large stakeholder.

Israir has neither problem.
״וזה כלל גדול: שישנא אדם כל דבר שקר. וכל מה שיוסיף שנאה לדרכי השקר – יוסיף אהבה לתורה.״ - אורחות צדיקים

Offline ExGingi

  • Dansdeals Lifetime 10K Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Nov 2015
  • Posts: 17685
  • Total likes: 7939
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 19
    • View Profile
  • Location: 770
  • Programs: בשורת הגאולה. From Exile to Redemption. GIYF. AAdvantage Executive Platinum®
Re: NY Koen group to buy Israir
« Reply #4 on: October 14, 2020, 01:01:23 AM »
How does a Dubai based group based an Israeli airline?

Look at their web address and logo.

https://ny770.group/



Who is נחום כהן? And what does the Y stand for? Is it a middle name (יעקב, יצחק, יהודה, יחיאל, etc.) or is it his wife's name? Or is it a patronym? Anyone from Kiyv on DDF that knows him?

Quote
founded by Naum Koen
« Last Edit: October 14, 2020, 02:14:29 AM by ExGingi »
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
-- Dan

Offline Dan

  • Administrator
  • Dansdeals Lifetime 50K Diamond Elite
  • **********
  • Join Date: May 2008
  • Posts: 68893
  • Total likes: 17267
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 16442
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
  • Location: CLE
  • Programs: UA GS, AA EXP, DL Dirt, Hyatt Glob, Fairmont Lifetime Plat, DD Diamond, Blocked By @NeriaKraus
Re: NY Koen group to buy Israir
« Reply #5 on: October 14, 2020, 01:02:35 AM »
Look at their web address and logo.

https://ny770.group/
LOL
Will be fun to see all of Israel's airlines go full charedi.
Mehadrin meals for all?
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

Offline ExGingi

  • Dansdeals Lifetime 10K Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Nov 2015
  • Posts: 17685
  • Total likes: 7939
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 19
    • View Profile
  • Location: 770
  • Programs: בשורת הגאולה. From Exile to Redemption. GIYF. AAdvantage Executive Platinum®
Re: NY Koen group to buy Israir
« Reply #6 on: October 14, 2020, 01:06:52 AM »
LOL
Will be fun to see all of Israel's airlines go full charedi.
Mehadrin meals for all?

WWAD?

(What will Arkia do?)

On a more serious note, I don't care much about the meals, but less public חילול שבת is big.
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
-- Dan

Offline Dan

  • Administrator
  • Dansdeals Lifetime 50K Diamond Elite
  • **********
  • Join Date: May 2008
  • Posts: 68893
  • Total likes: 17267
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 16442
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
  • Location: CLE
  • Programs: UA GS, AA EXP, DL Dirt, Hyatt Glob, Fairmont Lifetime Plat, DD Diamond, Blocked By @NeriaKraus
Re: NY Koen group to buy Israir
« Reply #7 on: October 14, 2020, 01:16:56 AM »
WWAD?

(What will Arkia do?)

On a more serious note, I don't care much about the meals, but less public חילול שבת is big.

Israel murdered Arkia when they closed SDV and ETH.
If not for that, Arkia would be flying beautiful 339s from JFK-TLV  :'(
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

Offline ExGingi

  • Dansdeals Lifetime 10K Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Nov 2015
  • Posts: 17685
  • Total likes: 7939
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 19
    • View Profile
  • Location: 770
  • Programs: בשורת הגאולה. From Exile to Redemption. GIYF. AAdvantage Executive Platinum®
Re: NY Koen group to buy Israir
« Reply #8 on: October 14, 2020, 01:19:50 AM »
Israel murdered Arkia when they closed SDV and ETH.
If not for that, Arkia would be flying beautiful 339s from JFK-TLV  :'(

Don't they do a lot of Europe and Africa vacations (obviously not at this time).
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
-- Dan

Offline Dan

  • Administrator
  • Dansdeals Lifetime 50K Diamond Elite
  • **********
  • Join Date: May 2008
  • Posts: 68893
  • Total likes: 17267
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 16442
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
  • Location: CLE
  • Programs: UA GS, AA EXP, DL Dirt, Hyatt Glob, Fairmont Lifetime Plat, DD Diamond, Blocked By @NeriaKraus
Re: NY Koen group to buy Israir
« Reply #9 on: October 14, 2020, 01:21:18 AM »
Don't they do a lot of Europe and Africa vacations (obviously not at this time).
SDV-ETH was Arkia's cash cow.
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

Offline ExGingi

  • Dansdeals Lifetime 10K Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Nov 2015
  • Posts: 17685
  • Total likes: 7939
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 19
    • View Profile
  • Location: 770
  • Programs: בשורת הגאולה. From Exile to Redemption. GIYF. AAdvantage Executive Platinum®
Re: NY Koen group to buy Israir
« Reply #10 on: October 14, 2020, 01:32:50 AM »
SDV-ETH was Arkia's cash cow.

It's beyond me how anyone could think that LLBG-ETM can be a substitute (especially with no rail link between ETM and downtown Eilat).
« Last Edit: October 14, 2020, 01:39:23 AM by ExGingi »
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
-- Dan

Offline Dan

  • Administrator
  • Dansdeals Lifetime 50K Diamond Elite
  • **********
  • Join Date: May 2008
  • Posts: 68893
  • Total likes: 17267
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 16442
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
  • Location: CLE
  • Programs: UA GS, AA EXP, DL Dirt, Hyatt Glob, Fairmont Lifetime Plat, DD Diamond, Blocked By @NeriaKraus
Re: NY Koen group to buy Israir
« Reply #11 on: October 14, 2020, 01:37:09 AM »
It's beyond me how anyone could think that LLBG-ETM can be a substitute (especially with no rail link between ETM and downtown Eilat.
Pure insanity and/or arrogance.
Killed the market overnight and killed getting another airline flying JFK-TLV.
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

Offline ExGingi

  • Dansdeals Lifetime 10K Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Nov 2015
  • Posts: 17685
  • Total likes: 7939
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 19
    • View Profile
  • Location: 770
  • Programs: בשורת הגאולה. From Exile to Redemption. GIYF. AAdvantage Executive Platinum®
Re: NY Koen group to buy Israir
« Reply #12 on: October 14, 2020, 01:40:55 AM »
Pure insanity and/or arrogance.
Killed the market overnight and killed getting another airline flying JFK-TLV.

There was also lots of greed and legal issues. SDV was encroaching on highly coveted privately owned real estate. 

But that doesn't take away from the Insanity/arrogance argument. We know who we're dealing with after all.
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
-- Dan

Offline tavster

  • Dansdeals Presidential Platinum Elite
  • ********
  • Join Date: Jan 2015
  • Posts: 3681
  • Total likes: 791
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 65
    • View Profile
  • Location: Israel
  • Programs: LY TP
Re: NY Koen group to buy Israir
« Reply #13 on: October 14, 2020, 01:41:37 AM »
It's beyond me how anyone could think that LLBG-ETM can be a substitute (especially with no rail link between ETM and downtown Eilat).
Those who are building this beg to differ

https://en.globes.co.il/en/article-sde-dov-development-plan-approved-1001321694

Offline ExGingi

  • Dansdeals Lifetime 10K Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Nov 2015
  • Posts: 17685
  • Total likes: 7939
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 19
    • View Profile
  • Location: 770
  • Programs: בשורת הגאולה. From Exile to Redemption. GIYF. AAdvantage Executive Platinum®
Re: NY Koen group to buy Israir
« Reply #14 on: October 14, 2020, 01:44:06 AM »
Those who are building this beg to differ couldn't care less. They care about their own pockets.

https://en.globes.co.il/en/article-sde-dov-development-plan-approved-1001321694

FTFY
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
-- Dan

Offline ExGingi

  • Dansdeals Lifetime 10K Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Nov 2015
  • Posts: 17685
  • Total likes: 7939
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 19
    • View Profile
  • Location: 770
  • Programs: בשורת הגאולה. From Exile to Redemption. GIYF. AAdvantage Executive Platinum®
Re: NY Koen group to buy Israir
« Reply #15 on: October 14, 2020, 01:45:57 AM »
Pure insanity and/or arrogance.
Killed the market overnight and killed getting another airline flying JFK-TLV.

But then OTOH from what I hear Eilat is stuck several decades behind Aqaba in what it has to offer. (And is pricier).
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
-- Dan

Offline tavster

  • Dansdeals Presidential Platinum Elite
  • ********
  • Join Date: Jan 2015
  • Posts: 3681
  • Total likes: 791
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 65
    • View Profile
  • Location: Israel
  • Programs: LY TP
Re: NY Koen group to buy Israir
« Reply #16 on: October 14, 2020, 01:52:51 AM »
But then OTOH from what I hear Eilat is stuck several decades behind Aqaba in what it has to offer. (And is pricier).
Eilat is garbage.
But there is a market for it and many Israelis can't be bothered to go elsewhere

Offline ExGingi

  • Dansdeals Lifetime 10K Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Nov 2015
  • Posts: 17685
  • Total likes: 7939
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 19
    • View Profile
  • Location: 770
  • Programs: בשורת הגאולה. From Exile to Redemption. GIYF. AAdvantage Executive Platinum®
Re: NY Koen group to buy Israir
« Reply #17 on: October 14, 2020, 02:07:41 AM »
Look at their web address and logo.

https://ny770.group/



Who is נחום כהן?

Will it be considered an arm's length transaction if ownership moves from Elsztain (indirectly through IDB) to Koen?
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
-- Dan

Offline ExGingi

  • Dansdeals Lifetime 10K Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Nov 2015
  • Posts: 17685
  • Total likes: 7939
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 19
    • View Profile
  • Location: 770
  • Programs: בשורת הגאולה. From Exile to Redemption. GIYF. AAdvantage Executive Platinum®
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
-- Dan

Offline ExGingi

  • Dansdeals Lifetime 10K Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Nov 2015
  • Posts: 17685
  • Total likes: 7939
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 19
    • View Profile
  • Location: 770
  • Programs: בשורת הגאולה. From Exile to Redemption. GIYF. AAdvantage Executive Platinum®
Re: NY Koen group to buy Israir
« Reply #19 on: October 25, 2020, 08:50:46 PM »
https://m.calcalist.co.il/Article.aspx?guid=3865591

More details (and photo) regarding Koen's bid.
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
-- Dan