Author Topic: COVID fatality estimates  (Read 1387 times)

Offline jye

  • Dansdeals Platinum Elite + Lifetime Silver Elite
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jan 2017
  • Posts: 727
  • Total likes: 1119
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
    • View Profile
  • Location: Lakewood NJ
« Last Edit: January 03, 2023, 12:17:04 PM by jj1000 »

Offline aygart

  • Dansdeals Lifetime 10K Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: May 2008
  • Posts: 18358
  • Total likes: 14561
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 14
    • View Profile
    • Lower Watt Energy Brokers
  • Programs: www.lowerwatt.com
Feelings don't care about your facts

Offline jye

  • Dansdeals Platinum Elite + Lifetime Silver Elite
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jan 2017
  • Posts: 727
  • Total likes: 1119
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
    • View Profile
  • Location: Lakewood NJ
Re: Initial CDC fatality estimates were about 100 times the actual number
« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2023, 09:41:02 AM »
Where are you seeing this in that study?

“Across 31 systematically identified national seroprevalence studies in the pre-vaccination era, the median infection fatality rate of COVID-19 was estimated to be 0.034% for people aged 0–59 years people”

“World health officials said Tuesday the mortality rate for COVID-19 is 3.4% globally“

Offline Lurker

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: Jul 2019
  • Posts: 5128
  • Total likes: 6394
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 2
    • View Profile
  • Location: As always, silence is NOT an admission of agreement on DDF. It just means that people lack the stamina to keep on arguing with made up "facts", illogical arguments, deceiving statements, nasty and degrading comments, and fuzzy math. - @yelped
Re: Initial CDC fatality estimates were about 100 times the actual number
« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2023, 09:48:23 AM »
CDC estimated the fatality rate to be 3.4% of all reported cases as of the end of Feb 2020. They didn't estimate that Covid would kill 3.4% of people who would get Covid over the next year.
Failing at maintaining Lurker status.

Offline jye

  • Dansdeals Platinum Elite + Lifetime Silver Elite
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jan 2017
  • Posts: 727
  • Total likes: 1119
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
    • View Profile
  • Location: Lakewood NJ
Re: Initial CDC fatality estimates were about 100 times the actual number
« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2023, 10:23:33 AM »
CDC estimated the fatality rate to be 3.4% of all reported cases as of the end of Feb 2020. They didn't estimate that Covid would kill 3.4% of people who would get Covid over the next year.
True. Would have to look back and see if they were predicting a similar rate going forward.

Online S209

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: Jun 2016
  • Posts: 7547
  • Total likes: 3970
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 1
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
    • Gowns By Shevy
  • Location: Lakewood
  • Programs: Marriott Gold, Star Alliance Gold, Hyatt Explorist, Hertz PC, National EE, Rock Royalty Wild Card, Wyndham Diamond, MLife Gold, Caesars Diamond, Hilton Diamond, Uber VIP, IHG Platinum Elite, ANA Platinum, DDF Lifetime Prez Platinum Elite, AmEx Platinum
Re: Initial CDC fatality estimates were about 100 times the actual number
« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2023, 11:07:24 AM »
True. Would have to look back and see if they were predicting a similar rate going forward.
You’re missing the distinction: they were estimating the case fatality rate (CFR) while this study is assessing the infection fatality rate (IFR).

The IFR was estimated at somewhere around .2% back in 2020, with the great majority of deaths occurring in those 65+. This study appears to confirm those early estimates.

Early CFR estimates were assumed to be high for several reasons, including scarcity of testing, fear of going out to get tested, and poor recognition of symptoms.
« Last Edit: January 03, 2023, 11:23:07 AM by S209 »
Quote from: YitzyS
Quotes in a signature is annoying, as it comes across as an independent post.

Offline dm123

  • Dansdeals Platinum Elite
  • ****
  • Join Date: Nov 2018
  • Posts: 451
  • Total likes: 442
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
    • View Profile
  • Location: United States

Online Alexsei

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: Sep 2011
  • Posts: 5830
  • Total likes: 1450
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 5
    • View Profile
    • Travel & Kivrei Zadikim
  • Location: Truckistan
  • Programs: COVID-23
Re: Initial CDC fatality estimates were about 100 times the actual number
« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2023, 11:25:47 AM »
Where is @CountValentine ?
Jews ≠ Zionists
Palestinians ≠ Hamas
Satmar ≠ SatmarHQ

Offline Dan

  • Administrator
  • Dansdeals Lifetime 50K Diamond Elite
  • **********
  • Join Date: May 2008
  • Posts: 68890
  • Total likes: 17258
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 16442
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
  • Location: CLE
  • Programs: UA GS, AA EXP, DL Dirt, Hyatt Glob, Fairmont Lifetime Plat, DD Diamond, Blocked By @NeriaKraus
Re: Initial CDC fatality estimates were about 100 times the actual number
« Reply #8 on: January 03, 2023, 11:36:31 AM »
You’re missing the distinction: they were estimating the case fatality rate (CFR) while this study is assessing the infection fatality rate (IFR).

The IFR was estimated at somewhere around .2% back in 2020, with the great majority of deaths occurring in those 65+. This study appears to confirm those early estimates.

Early CFR estimates were assumed to be high for several reasons, including scarcity of testing, fear of going out to get tested, and poor recognition of symptoms.
+1.
Some of my old roundups and comments discussed the IFRs. They were always very very low for young people.
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

Online S209

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: Jun 2016
  • Posts: 7547
  • Total likes: 3970
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 1
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
    • Gowns By Shevy
  • Location: Lakewood
  • Programs: Marriott Gold, Star Alliance Gold, Hyatt Explorist, Hertz PC, National EE, Rock Royalty Wild Card, Wyndham Diamond, MLife Gold, Caesars Diamond, Hilton Diamond, Uber VIP, IHG Platinum Elite, ANA Platinum, DDF Lifetime Prez Platinum Elite, AmEx Platinum
Re: Initial CDC fatality estimates were about 100 times the actual number
« Reply #9 on: January 03, 2023, 11:42:24 AM »
The main thing you can glean from this is that it confirms what we knew: COVID is alarmingly dangerous for those who are high risk.
Quote from: YitzyS
Quotes in a signature is annoying, as it comes across as an independent post.

Offline Yehuda57

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: Jan 2014
  • Posts: 5185
  • Total likes: 14868
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 6
    • View Profile
    • Squilled
  • Location: Brooklyn
  • Programs: Official Dansdeals salad correspondent
Re: Initial CDC fatality estimates were about 100 times the actual number
« Reply #10 on: January 03, 2023, 12:10:31 PM »
Can we get an updated headline for this thread?

ETA: Thanks!
« Last Edit: January 03, 2023, 12:58:35 PM by Yehuda57 »

Offline jye

  • Dansdeals Platinum Elite + Lifetime Silver Elite
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jan 2017
  • Posts: 727
  • Total likes: 1119
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
    • View Profile
  • Location: Lakewood NJ
Re: COVID fatality estimates
« Reply #11 on: January 03, 2023, 07:28:16 PM »
Thanks. Better.