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Re: Czar Cuomo
« Reply #75 on: October 17, 2020, 10:22:01 PM »
Wrong. I don't know about your kids but mine were out of school for a full 3 months and every shul in my vicinity was locked as well.

I don't know where you live, but in Brooklyn this was not the case. It was documented on DDF in real time.
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Re: Czar Cuomo
« Reply #76 on: October 17, 2020, 10:22:42 PM »
Not even at first, it took a good couple of weeks. And there were pockets of non-compliance throughout. So the guy said never when he should have said 90% of the time? This is the hill we want to die on? His point stands: the rules were barely followed at all over the last 7 months. That doesn't justify what's happening now, but let's not pretend we've been a model of good behavior.
Donít you live in Florida? How would you know what did or did not happen in Ny. Most of the NY shuls, schools and stores were closed for 3 plus months. You must be getting your information from the news.

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Re: Czar Cuomo
« Reply #77 on: October 17, 2020, 10:23:48 PM »
They weren't closed Purim. Most schools closed a week later, and minyan factories were still fully operational for another week after that. After Pesach, shuls started up again and schools tried opening under the radar and/or in private houses. By mid-Iyar, Covid was officially cancelled.

Not on Purim, but right after. And a week is shortly thereafter and exactly when it was ordered by government.

Schools opening under the radar didn't happen until Shavuous time.

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Re: Czar Cuomo
« Reply #78 on: October 17, 2020, 10:25:54 PM »
I don't know where you live, but in Brooklyn this was not the case. It was documented on DDF in real time.

Brooklyn. I had my kids HOME for 3 full months and so did all my neighbors, family members and acquaintances.

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Re: Czar Cuomo
« Reply #79 on: October 17, 2020, 10:29:34 PM »
Some people have a outcome before looking at the facts.

If u live in a bubble where no one around you  listens to rules, its ur problem, but that doesn't mean no one Ultra Orthodox is not and never did listen.

99% of shuls and schools were closed for a long  time, FACT.
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Re: Czar Cuomo
« Reply #80 on: October 17, 2020, 10:31:00 PM »
Revisionist history. BS. Never happened. Things were fully closed for less than a month.

What are you talking about, things were absolutely shut down. If you recall, we've been in agreement on most Covid related stuff, but I argued at the end of April (iirc) that they had better tone down the extreme lockdown or people will throw out ALL precautions.

How did that turn out? It took a certain meshugeneh who "had just enough" to unlock playgrounds. I wonder what ever happened with him?
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Re: Czar Cuomo
« Reply #81 on: October 17, 2020, 10:32:02 PM »
Some people have a outcome before looking at the facts.

If u live in a bubble where no one around you  listens to rules, its ur problem, but that doesn't mean no one Ultra Orthodox is not and never did listen.

99% of shuls and schools were closed for a long  time, FACT.

Exactly. And if you don't live here to have witnessed otherwise then just saying it didn't happen because you heard on the media, doesn't hold water.

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Re: Czar Cuomo
« Reply #82 on: October 17, 2020, 10:32:37 PM »
What are you talking about, things were absolutely shut down. If you recall, we've been in agreement on most Covid related stuff, but I argued at the end of April (iirc) that they had better tone down the extreme lockdown or people will throw out ALL precautions.

How did that turn out? It took a certain meshugeneh who "had just enough" to unlock playgrounds. I wonder what ever happened with him?
There were plenty of reports here of shuls and schools in BP/Willi opening after a few weeks off. @hvaces42 offered some real time reports of him fighting with them at the time IIRC.
But to say it never shut down is wrong.
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Re: Czar Cuomo
« Reply #83 on: October 17, 2020, 10:35:15 PM »
@hvaces42 offered some real time reports of him fighting with them at the time IIRC.
But to say it never shut down is wrong.
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Re: Czar Cuomo
« Reply #84 on: October 17, 2020, 10:36:51 PM »



Side note; Zalmen Leiber most likely never had 10k ppl by any of his weddings.

Not sure who leiber is, but there was always 10k people there, check "Der Yid"....

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Re: Czar Cuomo
« Reply #85 on: October 17, 2020, 10:36:57 PM »
With his front yard minyan
He wrote about shul buildings too, again IIRC. May have been other posters.
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Re: Czar Cuomo
« Reply #86 on: October 17, 2020, 10:38:05 PM »
There were plenty of reports here of shuls and schools in BP/Willi opening after a few weeks off.
But to say it never shut down is wrong.
1) There are hundreds (if not thousands) of shuls and schools in the greater NYC area (including 5towns, westchester, etc). A huge majority of them were completely closed from a week after purim until shavuos time. Here in the 5towns, schools did not reopen until this year.
2) Anybody that thinks that everybody else aside from the ultra-orthodox (whatever that means) in NY and NJ are in full compliance in regards to mask and SD, obviously doesn't live here.

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Re: Czar Cuomo
« Reply #87 on: October 17, 2020, 10:38:53 PM »
There were plenty of reports here of shuls and schools in BP/Willi opening after a few weeks off. @hvaces42 offered some real time reports of him fighting with them at the time IIRC.
But to say it never shut down is wrong.

There were *some* places that didn't shut down. Same for every demographic.
And his real time reports were of street minyanim in front of his front door
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Re: Czar Cuomo
« Reply #88 on: October 17, 2020, 10:40:18 PM »
Some people have a outcome before looking at the facts.

If u live in a bubble where no one around you  listens to rules, its ur problem, but that doesn't mean no one Ultra Orthodox is not and never did listen.

99% of shuls and schools were closed for a long  time, FACT.

You started a thread on April 12 about shuls being open in secret. Come on...
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Re: Czar Cuomo
« Reply #89 on: October 17, 2020, 10:42:08 PM »
There were *some* places that didn't shut down. Same for every demographic.
Completely based on my recollection of DDF reports from the time, but it didn't seem like it was just "some" if you're talking about BP/Wili a month after shutdown.

Other places, correct.
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