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Re: Czar Cuomo
« Reply #300 on: October 18, 2020, 09:19:46 AM »
This is letter I see from a quick search. You're right, it's more conciliatory than I remembered it being

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Re: Czar Cuomo
« Reply #301 on: October 18, 2020, 09:24:13 AM »
This is letter I see from a quick search. You're right, it's more conciliatory than I remembered it being

That's it. That's all there was, and even that was not seen by most until long after Purim. Not their fault, they were as clueless as everyone because of federal, state and local incompetence.

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Re: Czar Cuomo
« Reply #302 on: October 18, 2020, 09:25:59 AM »
It’s a terrible analogy because he was spot on in the beginning but then decided to use his platform for baseless attacks on Jews that weren’t listening to him later on.
It was a perfect analogy.   Boy who cried wolf was spot on the last time as well.
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Re: Czar Cuomo
« Reply #303 on: October 18, 2020, 09:27:10 AM »
That's it. That's all there was, and even that was not seen by most until long after Purim. Not their fault, they were as clueless as everyone because of federal, state and local incompetence.

Or maybe, just maybe,for some reason beyond our human comprehension, this is the way G-d planned things?
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Re: Czar Cuomo
« Reply #304 on: October 18, 2020, 09:28:38 AM »
Or maybe, just maybe,for some reason beyond our human comprehension, this is the way G-d planned things?

It's absolutely the way G-d planned things. Since when has that ever absolved us of personal responsibility and accountability?
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Re: Czar Cuomo
« Reply #305 on: October 18, 2020, 09:34:15 AM »
Or maybe, just maybe,for some reason beyond our human comprehension, this is the way G-d planned things?

Says the life insurance salesman

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Czar Cuomo
« Reply #306 on: October 18, 2020, 09:36:03 AM »
Not just Cuomo, but if there was a concerted effort from NYC and state to warn, things could have been toned down. We mostly shut down that Friday in CH without any hospitalizations or deaths, just based on fewer than 10 confirmed cases.

One statement that was barely shared is not begging. I only saw that notice a week after Purim.

Hatzalah has been remarkably quiet. They are the greatest organization in the world, but they have not used their cache to educate or ask the community to use precautions at all. I've heard from numerous Hatzalah members that masks are a joke, for instance.
Additionally, their fundraiser/concert is likely what opened the floodgates for going back to regular weddings. (Everybody knew it wasn't socially distanced despite what they showed on screen.)

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Re: Czar Cuomo
« Reply #307 on: October 18, 2020, 09:40:37 AM »
Not just Cuomo, but if there was a concerted effort from NYC and state to warn, things could have been toned down. We mostly shut down that Friday in CH without any hospitalizations or deaths, just based on fewer than 10 confirmed cases.

One statement that was barely shared is not begging. I only saw that notice a week after Purim.

Hatzalah has been remarkably quiet. They are the greatest organization in the world, but they have not used their cache to educate or ask the community to use precautions at all. I've heard from numerous Hatzalah members that masks are a joke, for instance.
Hatzalah is thankfully not a political organization, thus doesn't advocate for politically imposed non scientific restrictions.
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Re: Czar Cuomo
« Reply #308 on: October 18, 2020, 09:41:15 AM »
It's absolutely the way G-d planned things. Since when has that ever absolved us of personal responsibility and accountability?

Since when does a goy have בחירה חופשית?
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Re: Czar Cuomo
« Reply #309 on: October 18, 2020, 09:44:36 AM »
Additionally, their fundraiser/concert is likely what opened the floodgates for going back to regular weddings. (Everybody knew it wasn't socially distanced despite what they showed on screen.)

Wow, that's a monumental accusation without a shred of evidence to back it up.

Hatzalah is thankfully not a political organization, thus doesn't advocate for politically imposed non scientific restrictions.

Right, which is why they could advise on science based precautions that people should take and ignore the political stuff.

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Re: Czar Cuomo
« Reply #310 on: October 18, 2020, 09:47:03 AM »
Wow, that's a monumental accusation without a shred of evidence to back it up.

Right, which is why they could advise on science based precautions that people should take and ignore the political stuff.
Whos science?

Science is a blanket term used to justify a position without real scientific backing.

Just like the WHO flips, Fauci flips and even Coumo/Deblasio flipped. All in the name of science.

Repeat x1000 science!!!
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Re: Czar Cuomo
« Reply #311 on: October 18, 2020, 09:48:00 AM »
It was a perfect analogy.   Boy who cried wolf was spot on the last time as well.

Except he's not a boy, he's the wolf. Likely to be much more dangerous than covid if this keeps up.

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Re: Czar Cuomo
« Reply #312 on: October 18, 2020, 09:48:31 AM »
Since when does a goy have בחירה חופשית?
5781 years ago

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Re: Czar Cuomo
« Reply #313 on: October 18, 2020, 09:48:53 AM »
It was a perfect analogy.   Boy who cried wolf was spot on the last time as well.
He was spot on the first time. It went all downhill from there.

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Czar Cuomo
« Reply #314 on: October 18, 2020, 09:50:48 AM »
Wow, that's a monumental accusation without a shred of evidence to back it up.


Which part? The lack of SD? That was evident on screen and also by the plentiful behind the scenes photos that went around.

As for the normalization of large music events (a.k.a. weddings), I used the term "likely" but it was based on conversations I had with friends and family with the implication - "Hatzalah even showed it's okay to do weddings weeks ago!"

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Re: Czar Cuomo
« Reply #315 on: October 18, 2020, 09:55:39 AM »
Whos science?

Science is a blanket term used to justify a position without real scientific backing.

Just like the WHO flips, Fauci flips and even Coumo/Deblasio flipped. All in the name of science.

Repeat x1000 science!!!

The science *you* mentioned in your comment. Science changes based on acquired knowledge, so if course guidelines will change. Even a layman can debunk Cuomo or de Blasio as being unscientific

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Re: Czar Cuomo
« Reply #317 on: October 18, 2020, 10:02:04 AM »
The science *you* mentioned in your comment. Science changes based on acquired knowledge, so if course guidelines will change. Even a layman can debunk Cuomo or de Blasio as being unscientific
Yeah, ur right but not when the underlying premise for many rules change overnight based on people's decision making.

Major science doesn't change that fast.

Its mostly political.
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Re: Czar Cuomo
« Reply #318 on: October 18, 2020, 10:06:18 AM »
https://twitter.com/HelfgottChavy/status/1317154882227490819

This line or reasoning is such BS, no one in the Jewish community made decisions based on Coumo downplaying the virus.
I don't get why we have to make stuff up - he has done enough bad

You are incorrect. If you look at the original statement from the Moetzes about closing school they very specifically wrote about how public schools were open.
Feelings don't care about your facts

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Re: Czar Cuomo
« Reply #319 on: October 18, 2020, 10:15:23 AM »
5781 years ago

You probably meant to write 5780 years and one month ago  :P but it's actually not so simple when it comes to a goy.
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