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Re: Czar Cuomo
« Reply #680 on: November 26, 2020, 01:16:55 AM »
My comments below as I read through the entire thing.

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From the ruling:
Both the Diocese and Agudath Israel maintain that the regulations treat houses  of worship much more harshly than comparable secular facilities.  And they tell  us without contradiction that they have complied with all public health guidance, have implemented additional precautionary measures, and have operated at 25% or 33% capacity for months without a single outbreak.

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Roberts is writing mishmash. He's a simple feinshmeker.


More:
And the Governor has stated that factories and schools have contributed to the spread of COVID–19,  id., Exh. H, at  3; App. to Application in No. 20A90, pp. 98, 100, but they are treated less harshly than the Diocese’s churches and Agudath Israel’s synagogues, which have admirable safety records.

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This is Amazing. Court decided they won't follow Cuomo's shpiel.

The dissents would deny relief at this time  but allow the Diocese and Agudath Israel to  renew their requests if this recent reclassification is reversed. There is no justification for  that  proposed course of action.  It is clear that this matter is not moot.  See  Federal Election Comm’n  v.  Wisconsin Right to Life,  Inc., 551 U. S. 449, 462 (2007);  Friends of the Earth, Inc.  v.  Laidlaw Environmental  Services  (TOC), Inc.,  528 U.  S. 167, 189 (2000). And injunctive relief is  still called for because the applicants remain under a constant threat that  the  area in question will be  reclassified  as red or  orange.  See,  e.g.,  Susan B.  Anthony List  v.  Driehaus, 573 U.  S. 149, 158 (2014).  The Governor regularly changes the  classification of particular areas without prior notice.3   If that occurs again,  the reclassification will almost certainly bar individuals in the affected area  from attending services before judicial relief can be obtained.  At most Catholic churches, Mass is celebrated daily, and “Orthodox Jews pray in [Agudath Israel’s] synagogues every day.”  Application in  No. 20A90, at  4.  Moreover, if reclassification  occurs  late  in a week,  as has happened in the past, there may not be  time for applicants to seek  and obtain relief  from this Court before another Sabbath passes.  Thirteen  days have gone by since the Diocese filed its application, and Agudath  Israel’s application was filed over a  week  ago.


Kavanaugh is more moderate in writing, but gets to the exact same point.



Breyer's dissent is simple liberal stuff. Nothing interesting there.


The Sotomayor part is more interesting, but she's insufferable.
She justifies Cuomo's statement on Jews, by comparing to court's ruling on Trump's statements about the Muslim ban.


The ruling itself is great, but Gorsuch's part is 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

Go read the entire thing.

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Re: Czar Cuomo
« Reply #681 on: November 26, 2020, 01:18:18 AM »
No, we don’t.

Read what ACB wrote (must have been her writing the per curiam) and Gorsuch, and tell me they won't do the same thing again at the next stop.

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Re: Czar Cuomo
« Reply #682 on: November 26, 2020, 01:20:24 AM »
The SCOTUS ruling is temporary until the lower court the lower court (and potentially SCOTUS) rule on the case.

FTFY.

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Re: Czar Cuomo
« Reply #683 on: November 26, 2020, 01:31:45 AM »
Read what ACB wrote (must have been her writing the per curiam) and Gorsuch, and tell me they won't do the same thing again at the next stop.
I did. They didn’t review the epidemiological justifications.

Anyhow, the only thing that may change is that next time Coumo wants to limit Shuls he will also have to limit supermarkets, or at least bike stores and etc.
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Re: Czar Cuomo
« Reply #684 on: November 26, 2020, 01:35:32 AM »
I did. They didn’t review the epidemiological justifications.

Anyhow, the only thing that may change is that next time Coumo wants to limit Shuls he will also have to limit supermarkets, or at least bike stores and etc.

Cuomo won't be able to weasel his way out of this. He can claim that liquor store there's no masses of people, but what does he say for supermarket? Offices? Warehouses? Factories? He's gonna put capacity limits on everything just to spite the Jews?
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Re: Czar Cuomo
« Reply #685 on: November 26, 2020, 01:35:44 AM »
I did. They didn’t review the epidemiological justifications.

Anyhow, the only thing that may change is that next time Coumo wants to limit Shuls he will also have to limit supermarkets, or at least bike stores and etc.

So he'll limit Costco and Walmart to 10 people... Yeah sure. Either way, this tied his hands a lot. Cuomo ignored size till now.

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Re: Czar Cuomo
« Reply #686 on: November 26, 2020, 01:37:15 AM »
Anyhow, the only thing that may change is that next time Coumo wants to limit Shuls he will also have to limit supermarkets, or at least bike stores and etc.
Yea that's the only thing that may change. Because who has a problem with him limiting supermarkets and banks, NY'ers are willing, able and ready to bear with it, he sure has a free pass for that too. So basically there is no real change here ::) ::)

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Re: Czar Cuomo
« Reply #687 on: November 26, 2020, 01:39:24 AM »
Cuomo won't be able to weasel his way out of this. He can claim that liquor store there's no masses of people, but what does he say for supermarket? Offices? Warehouses? Factories? He's gonna put capacity limits on everything just to spite the Jews?
I don’t think Coumo ever did anything to spite Jews and I don’t think he’ll hesitate to limit red zip codes to 10 people across all gatherings including work & schools. It will get him right back to the National headlines for moving further left bc of scotus.
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Re: Czar Cuomo
« Reply #688 on: November 26, 2020, 01:40:40 AM »
I don’t think Coumo ever did anything to spite Jews

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Re: Czar Cuomo
« Reply #689 on: November 26, 2020, 01:45:15 AM »
I don’t think Coumo ever did anything to spite Jews

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Re: Czar Cuomo
« Reply #690 on: November 26, 2020, 01:56:13 AM »
Kavanaugh:
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In light of the devastating pandemic, I do not doubt the State’s authority to impose tailored restrictions—even very strict restrictions—on attendance at religious services and secular gatherings alike.
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Re: Czar Cuomo
« Reply #691 on: November 26, 2020, 01:58:57 AM »
Kavanaugh:

Typical Kavanaugh. He writes it this way because it sounds more neutral. Gorsuch and ACB aren't saying anything else.

They are all using a broad brush to what constitutes comparable secular activities.

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Re: Czar Cuomo
« Reply #692 on: November 26, 2020, 02:22:53 AM »
Yea that's the only thing that may change. Because who has a problem with him limiting supermarkets and banks, NY'ers are willing, able and ready to bear with it, he sure has a free pass for that too. So basically there is no real change here ::) ::)
In Willi BP Monsey it anyway doesnt matter as we are following already the constitution for a few months.... The main takeaway from this ruling is that Lord Cuomo is not the boss anymore.

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Re: Czar Cuomo
« Reply #693 on: November 26, 2020, 07:58:33 AM »
I don’t think Coumo ever did anything to spite Jews .
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Aside from all the things he said publicly and the makeup of the zones, his defense in court was that it couldn't be anti - Ultra Orthodox because he didn't make Crown Heights and Williamsburg red zones. Except the Jewish stores in ch had multiple inspections daily, with many, many unjustifiable fines, while non Jewish stores in the same streets, in the same zip codes where not inspected. It was blatant.

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Re: Czar Cuomo
« Reply #694 on: November 26, 2020, 08:47:57 AM »
Kavanaugh:

You left out the rest of the paragraph.
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But the New York restrictions on
houses of worship are not tailored to the circumstances given the First Amendment interests at stake. To reiterate, New York’s restrictions on houses of worship are much more severe than the California and Nevada restrictions at issue in South Bay and Calvary, and much more severe than the restrictions that most other States are imposing on attendance at religious services. And New York’s restrictions discriminate against religion by treating houses of worship significantly worse than some secular businesses.

Even if Cuomo were to prove that he did not discriminate, he would still lose. He has to show that this is the least restrictive way to stop the spread.
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Re: Czar Cuomo
« Reply #695 on: November 26, 2020, 08:51:51 AM »
Is there a presser today ? I can’t wait to hear what this pompous *** will say when questioned about it.

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Re: Czar Cuomo
« Reply #696 on: November 26, 2020, 11:40:59 AM »
Is there a presser today ? I can’t wait to hear what this pompous *** will say when questioned about it.

There was. Bla bla

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Re: Czar Cuomo
« Reply #697 on: November 26, 2020, 11:43:20 AM »
Quote from: zh cohen link=topic=12044
, he would still lose. He has to show that this is the least restrictive way to stop the spread.
It doesn’t say or imply that
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Re: Czar Cuomo
« Reply #698 on: November 26, 2020, 11:45:14 AM »
Is there a presser today ? I can’t wait to hear what this pompous *** will say when questioned about it.
https://twitter.com/zackfinknews/status/1331980568976912384

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Re: Czar Cuomo
« Reply #699 on: November 26, 2020, 11:56:14 AM »
https://twitter.com/zackfinknews/status/1331980568976912384

And what happens when at his whim that zone exists again?

Also, is there video or audio of today's conference available? Couldn't seem to find it yet.
« Last Edit: November 26, 2020, 12:04:21 PM by iluv2travel »