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Re: Covid-19 # are skewed
« Reply #100 on: October 15, 2020, 07:39:19 PM »
Multiple negatives have no effect on the number of cases and they only affect the positivity rate if they're very close together.
True, but why wouldn’t they affect the positivity rate regardless of how close together they are?
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Re: Covid-19 # are skewed
« Reply #101 on: October 15, 2020, 07:40:11 PM »
From what I remember from a while back, positive tests are counted only once per person.
So the people getting covid twice are not counted?

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Re: Covid-19 # are skewed
« Reply #102 on: October 15, 2020, 07:40:43 PM »
I have yet to see any evidence of a possible system that can weed out duplicates.
But you are making this up, not basing it off of any information you’ve seen. I have no trouble assuming each person is counted as one case.

The story mentioned by OP taught us a grand total of 0 new information.
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Re: Covid-19 # are skewed
« Reply #103 on: October 15, 2020, 07:41:07 PM »
So the people getting covid twice are not counted?
If it separated by months then they probably are.
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Re: Covid-19 # are skewed
« Reply #104 on: October 15, 2020, 07:53:15 PM »
Everyone who tests is asked for identifying information, wouldn't that information be used to identify where the positives are coming from?
In the beginning I heard conflicting information about whether or not duplicated are removed with the reports of duplicates being counted twice being more reliable. I haven't heard anyone confirm that they really are removed.
The system in these states record the positives with all of your info. So when they log your info and see that you had a previous positive then they won’t count this as a new positive.
I believe people reported as recently as this week that all they were asked for (in NJ) was name & telephone number.
True, but why wouldn’t they affect the positivity rate regardless of how close together they are?
If someone was exposed on 9/1 and get tested as a precaution on 9/7, they they are exposed again on 10/1 and get tested as a precaution on 10/7. Either way we tested a possible COVID exposed person, they fact that it was the same person both times makes no difference.
But you are making this up, not basing it off of any information you’ve seen. I have no trouble assuming each person is counted as one case.

The story mentioned by OP taught us a grand total of 0 new information.
Source? You have an awful lot of confidence in a government that has showed us time and again that it's completely incompetent.
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Re: Covid-19 # are skewed
« Reply #105 on: October 15, 2020, 08:17:21 PM »
We're conflating 2 things again. There are test counts and case counts. For tests, every test is counted, regardless of how often a person gets tested or how many a person takes. For cases, they count each case regardless of how many tests are associated with that case.
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Re: Covid-19 # are skewed
« Reply #106 on: October 15, 2020, 08:49:09 PM »
Do you really think they counted both of your tests as 1 positive?
Testing negative multiple times doesn't affect case numbers, it only affects positivity rates.
For what it's worth I was only called by the DOH once for me and once for my daughter.
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Re: Covid-19 # are skewed
« Reply #107 on: October 15, 2020, 08:54:05 PM »
For what it's worth I was only called by the DOH once for me and once for my daughter.
But then again, other people never got called
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Re: Covid-19 # are skewed
« Reply #108 on: October 15, 2020, 10:35:15 PM »
But then again, other people never got called
People who tested positive on PCR tests never got called?

I don’t have confidence in anything, but the logical assumption is that each case is considered separate no matter how many positive tests are associated with them. I see no reason to believe otherwise unless someone quotes a reliable source to that effect. The alternative would be a chiddush, though not out of the realm of possibility.
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