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This thread discusses speeding tickets and traffic tickets in the state of New York. For parking tickets go here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=15090.0 or here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=23665.msg1088489. For moving violations outside of New York, please start a new thread and add a link here.

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Please read this wiki first. I am not an attorney and this is not legal advice.

Q: Can I get a plea bargain in New York City?
A: No. Every single ticket goes to trial, guilty or not guilty, in New York City. (The 5 boroughs of NY, Kings, Queens, Bronx and Richmond.)

Q: How long does it take for points to fall off your New York State record/license/abstract?
A: For DMV persistent violation purposes 18 months from the date of offense regardless of the date of conviction. At 3 years after the date of conviction on the following January first the points are no longer visible on the driving record which insurance companies and traffic prosecutors look at. DMV always keeps a record of your conviction and if you get too many points over your lifetime you could get a "10 year" revocation, however those records are not visible to insurance companies.

Q: Does it pay to fight my NY ticket or should I just pay it?
A: In order to figure the true cost of a traffic ticket conviction (aside from figuring out the total fines and the effects on your record) you need to call up your insurance company and ask them 2 questions. 1. How much will my insurance go up over the next 4 years if I pay this ticket? 2. How much money in "good driver discounts" will I loss over the next 4 years and how much does this add up to?

The reason you need to ask these 2 questions separately is because the insurance companies "shield themselves" from the statutory requirement to not raise insurance rates for a first violation (or speeds up to 15 MPH) by granting "good driver discounts", and then taking away these good driver discounts when you get your first violation. Therefore the (technically) correct answer to the first question you ask them could be "your insurance will not be raised at all". Then when you ask them the second question the answer may be in the thousands of dollars over the next 4 years, depending on your insurance bracket.

Q: How can I find my New York ticket online? 
A: If it is New York City ticket you can find it at https://transact.dmv.ny.gov/pleadnpay if you received a ticket anywhere outside of NYC and anywhere upstate you must contact the individual Court by phone or mail. There is no way to find your ticket online. Google is not able to find most small Courts as it get confused with giving you the most popular courts and attorneys, therefore I suggest you look up your Court at at www.town-court.com.

Q: How can I get a copy of my NYS driving record/license/abstract?
A: You can buy it at the statutory minimum of $7 at https://my.dmv.ny.gov/crm

Q: Do NJ tickets show up on a regular non CDL NY license?
A: As long as you pay them, no they will not.

Q: Do NY tickets show up on NJ licenses?
A: Yes as a 2 point out of state conviction (most violations).

Q: Do NJ tickets show up on a NY license?
A: As long as you pay them, no. Exceptions 1. if you have a CDL the NJ conviction will record on your NY license. 2. DUI/DWI and criminal driving convictions from NJ do record on your NY license. 3. as stated above if you don't respond to the ticket the suspension will follow you to NY. In addition NJ issues warrants for failing to respond to traffic tickets. 4 If you are convicted of a high speed (90+ MPH, 100+ MPH) in NJ the Judge may suspend your NJ driving privileges. 

Q: Can I pay Court fines with a CC?
A: In NYC for moving violations you can use https://transact.dmv.ny.gov/pleadnpay. For NYC parking tickets you can use http://www.nyc.gov/html/dof/html/parking/parking.shtml. As far as "upstate" Courts go, most Courts will allow you to pay with visa or mastercard in person. Many Courts have a CC sheet which you can fill in and mail back, other Courts have a third party processor such as https://www.ncourt.com to accept cc payments. Call the Court to find out what options they have. No one (so far that I have seen) will take CCs over the phone.

Q: I received a camera ticket for a red light (3 points) or speeding (3-11 points) or a bus lane violation (2 points). Do traffic tickets issued from a camera add points to my license?
A: Camera Tickets never go on your license as they are issued against the car and not the driver. Therefor a camera ticket will not add points to your license or increase your insurance.

Q: If I push a ticket off for 18 months and then I am convicted, can I still be suspended by the DMV for having more than 11 points?
A: Pushing off a ticket will not help protect you from DMV actions. The reason is as follows: if you receive 2 tickets worth 6 points each on the same day, and you plead guilty to one of them on that same day and you push the second ticket off for 5 years, and then you plead guilty to that second ticket, the DMV computer will look at the 2 dates of violation and say "the motorist accumulated (more than) 11 points within an 18 month period" and issue a persistent violator suspension against you license.

Insurance companies work the other way around. They can only raise your premium after your date of conviction. Therefore in our example the insurance companies will increase your insurance after the first conviction appears on your record when they renew your policy (which will stay on your record for 3 years and then until the next January 1st) and then they will increase your rates again after the second ticket conviction shows up on your record when they renew your policy, (once again this second ticket will stay on the record for  3 years plus until the next January first. It follows that pleading/being found guilty in December saves 11 months of policy increase, and if there is a way to lock in a one year policy right before a conviction in December you can be looking at a car increase for only 2 years and 1 day, instead of 4 years minus one day.)

Travelers Insurance offers 1 year rates.
Geico is 6 months.

Traffic Ticket Lawyers:

State
New York Attorney Matisyahu Wolfberg http://www.speedingdefense.com/
New York Attorney Zev Goldstein www.zevgoldsteinlaw.com 845-356-7770
New York Attorney Benjamin Goldman https://www.benjamingoldmanlawoffice.com/ 212-203-3810
New Jersey and New York Attorney Adam H. Rosenblum www.ticketdefenselaw.com
New Jersey Attorney Leib Klein www.avvo.com/attorneys/08701-nj-leib-klein-1602182.html 732-987-7040

Great Upstate NY lawyer at very cheap prices. http://jaydrillings.net/

Not that many parking ticket lawyers!
Parking ticket Non Lawyer (NYC)
Cathy Mei She takes 50% to fight the parking or camera ticket
Office Number 212-349-4978
Email 329ticket@gmail.com
Fax 646-699-3630

Parking Expert non attorney (718) 384-5052

Non attorney runner http://www.myticketsnyc.com/

Non attorney runner http://www.wefighttickets.com/

10+ Counties in upstate NY have diversion programs, allowing you to dismiss the ticket for a fine and defensive driving class. Conditions and restrictions apply. Check the District Attorney's website for your county: Allegany, Broome, Cayuga, Chenango, Clinton, Franklin, Livingston, Orleans, Otsego, Tioga, and Wyoming.

This wiki is not legal advice, nor the advice of an attorney.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1460 on: November 02, 2014, 12:07:11 PM »
A lot of ppl try to do that.... A known tactic with lawyers.
anywhere this is being discussed? I got a ticket in May 2013 and someone told me about a guy who does this. He asks $100 each time he postpones itand when it gets dismissed (basically the cop does not show up...) he charges $350. Fair? Or can I do all this my self?
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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1461 on: November 02, 2014, 12:14:36 PM »

anywhere this is being discussed? I got a ticket in May 2013 and someone told me about a guy who does this. He asks $100 each time he postpones itand when it gets dismissed (basically the cop does not show up...) he charges $350. Fair? Or can I do all this my self?
I wouldn't do it myself, I think at some point you need to paid a bond to continue pushing thdate off. You probably also will need to provide a reason for pushing it off. Additionally, these lawyers know of other tactics to get your date pushed off.
 I can refer you to someone who'll do it all for $150(I think). He helped me with a few tickets although he did lose one case for me; the judge didn't let him push it off anymore and he was forced to plead guilty to avoid having my license suspended . Iirc, he refunded me the $150 because he was forced to plead guilty.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1462 on: November 02, 2014, 12:59:44 PM »
Thx.

Noob question. If i dont plan on taking out a car on my name for the next 2 years, should I just plea guilty because the points go off after 2 years? Or if I get points it will somewhere stay on my record for more than 2 years? Or is there any other downside of having points even when I don't have a car on my name?
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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1463 on: November 02, 2014, 01:15:38 PM »
I got a speeding ticket in NYC in March and pleaded not guilty so they sent me a court date in November but I wasn't going to be in the country then so called up to change it and they said the next available date is in May and I also won't be in the country then so asked for April or later on in the year and they said no. Is there anything I can do to change it to a date that I will be in the country?
There's also a rule that you can only change a court date once without having to come down to court to change.
Any ideas?

You plan on conducting the trial yourself? You need to accept that dates they provide you. Try logging into DMV.NY.GOV and each day you log in you may get different options on the next trial date. After the first time you postpone, you need to post $40 as bail to obtain a new date, and that must be done in person.

Got the ticket in NYC. My license is from Maryland.
I'm thinking now to just pay the ticket because there is no way the points will ever hit me due to the misspelled name and wrong license info. If I show up to fight it, I'm scared they will correct all the info. What do you think?

Its all a gamble. Do the points transfer to MD when the info is correct?

In NYC can I just keep on postponing the trial date until the officer does not show up?

You only have around 3.5 years to postpone, and that is if you get the maximum time of extensions. Do you think that your office will be out of the service by then? Another problem: the judge can suspend your license administratively as soon as he thinks you crossed his "magic line" of adjournments, pending the next trial date. You need to be careful to not get forced into pleading guilty. I am still looking into if the administrative suspension works against out of state DMVs. 

anywhere this is being discussed? I got a ticket in May 2013 and someone told me about a guy who does this. He asks $100 each time he postpones itand when it gets dismissed (basically the cop does not show up...) he charges $350. Fair? Or can I do all this my self?

That sounds like a lot of money. Most lawyers will not charge you more than $400 total. I do not like to hear about attorney admitting to using unethical tactics.

I wouldn't do it myself, I think at some point you need to paid a bond to continue pushing thdate off. You probably also will need to provide a reason for pushing it off. Additionally, these lawyers know of other tactics to get your date pushed off.
 I can refer you to someone who'll do it all for $150(I think). He helped me with a few tickets although he did lose one case for me; the judge didn't let him push it off anymore and he was forced to plead guilty to avoid having my license suspended . Iirc, he refunded me the $150 because he was forced to plead guilty.

Why could he not go to trial?

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1464 on: November 02, 2014, 01:20:04 PM »
Thx.

Noob question. If i dont plan on taking out a car on my name for the next 2 years, should I just plea guilty because the points go off after 2 years? Or if I get points it will somewhere stay on my record for more than 2 years? Or is there any other downside of having points even when I don't have a car on my name?

The points stay on your record for insurance purposes for up to 4 years. In addition, the accumulation of points can hurt you even if you don't own a car.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1465 on: November 02, 2014, 01:21:03 PM »
anywhere this is being discussed? I got a ticket in May 2013 and someone told me about a guy who does this. He asks $100 each time he postpones itand when it gets dismissed (basically the cop does not show up...) he charges $350. Fair? Or can I do all this my self?
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I paid 175 flat fee for unlimited court appearances for a cell phone ticket in NY.


 

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1466 on: November 02, 2014, 02:16:09 PM »
The points stay on your record for insurance purposes for up to 4 years. In addition, the accumulation of points can hurt you even if you a car.
So assuming I get just 1 ticket every 4 years and I don't plan on taking out a car in that 4 year period, there is no reason not to plea guilty and pay the fine?
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« Reply #1467 on: November 02, 2014, 02:23:19 PM »
You plan on conducting the trial yourself? You need to accept that dates they provide you. Try logging into DMV.NY.GOV and each day you log in you may get different options on the next trial date. After the first time you postpone, you need to post $40 as bail to obtain a new date, and that must be done in person.
Should I try myself or it's not worth it? 
I already took the date they gave me when I won't be in the country.

What should I do now?

How much would a lawyer cost me to go fight it for me?

How many points would 64 in a 40 be?

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1468 on: November 03, 2014, 05:17:15 PM »

Camera or cop issued?
 

anything to do about camera issued ones? (lets say i know a guy who has gotten multiple :'()

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1469 on: November 03, 2014, 06:27:52 PM »
I got offered a VTL # 1214 opened door unsafely in NYS. Does that violation go on record?

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1470 on: November 05, 2014, 11:49:48 AM »
Please help i got a cellphone ticket in queens and have court in 8 days. can anyone please recommend me a lawyer that they know that has had any type of success with this? Any advice besides postponing and don't talk on a phone while driving? TIA

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« Reply #1471 on: November 06, 2014, 10:23:09 AM »
So assuming I get just 1 ticket every 4 years and I don't plan on taking out a car in that 4 year period, there is no reason not to plea guilty and pay the fine?
If you never are entered under anyone's insurance and you are NEVER revoked? Yes there is no real reason to fight the ticket of paying the ticket is cheaper than paying it, even assuming that you only receive 1 ticket every 18 months.

1. How do you know that you won't get any more tickets?
2. One 6 point ticket in upstate NY will cost you $700 for the first pop. Fighting it is therefore cheaper in this case.
3. If you ever do get revoked (insurance laps?) DMV driver improvement can use all those convictions against you over the last 10 years (or 25 if there is an alcohol related conviction) to decide if you should get your license back. 2 convictions of a 5 or more point violation may be enough to kill your driver's license for good, or a multiple of 0 point moving violations can do the same thing.

1. Should I try myself or it's not worth it? 
I already took the date they gave me when I won't be in the country.

2. What should I do now?

3. How much would a lawyer cost me to go fight it for me?

4. How many points would 64 in a 40 be?
1. What are you going to do yourself?
2. Pay it or ignore it, or call the court and ask how you can get another adjournment. Offer bail. Hire a lawyer. Ignore it and don't come back.
3. Depends on the location $100 to $600.
4. 6 points.

anything to do about camera issued ones? (lets say i know a guy who has gotten multiple :'()

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Parking ticket Non Lawyer (NYC)
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Office Number 212-349-4978
Email 329ticket@gmail.com
Fax 646-699-3630"

I got offered a VTL # 1214 opened door unsafely in NYS. Does that violation go on record?

0 Points. It does go on the record.

Please help i got a cellphone ticket in queens and have court in 8 days. can anyone please recommend me a lawyer that they know that has had any type of success with this? Any advice besides postponing and don't talk on a phone while driving? TIA

Should I tell him or should you tell him?

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1472 on: November 06, 2014, 10:40:05 AM »
tell me what?

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1473 on: November 06, 2014, 02:23:09 PM »


You only have around 3.5 years to postpone, and that is if you get the maximum time of extensions. Do you think that your office will be out of the service by then? Another problem: the judge can suspend your license administratively as soon as he thinks you crossed his "magic line" of adjournments, pending the next trial date. You need to be careful to not get forced into pleading guilty. I am still looking into if the administrative suspension works against out of state DMVs. 

Okay, so the guy told me that he postponed it again (and charged $100 again) But I am seeing online that NEXT TIME If I wanna postpone it I have to go down in person. Does this mean that the guy just potponed it online? Can you postpone it online. If yes, why do I pay him $100? (this was the second trial date)
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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1474 on: November 06, 2014, 02:28:52 PM »
Okay, so the guy told me that he postponed it again (and charged $100 again) But I am seeing online that NEXT TIME If I wanna postpone it I have to go down in person. Does this mean that the guy just potponed it online? Can you postpone it online. If yes, why do I pay him $100? (this was the second trial date)
My lawyer charged $350 upfront, kept postponing it without charging, except to ask for the $40 mentioned in your screenshot, which means she obviously went to court at least that time. Eventually it was dismissed. She said I'm supposed to get that $40 back (it's bond, not a penalty), but I keep forgetting to call and ask for it back.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1475 on: November 06, 2014, 02:37:40 PM »
My lawyer charged $350 upfront, kept postponing it without charging, except to ask for the $40 mentioned in your screenshot, which means she obviously went to court at least that time. Eventually it was dismissed. She said I'm supposed to get that $40 back (it's bond, not a penalty), but I keep forgetting to call and ask for it back.
How many times did he postpone it? How was it dismissed at the end, the cop didn't show up?
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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1476 on: November 06, 2014, 03:06:20 PM »
How many times did he postpone it? How was it dismissed at the end, the cop didn't show up?
I don't remember how many times, but it was several years (probably pretty close to the 3.5 number mentioned). I don't think it said on the letter why it was dismissed.

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« Reply #1477 on: November 10, 2014, 05:12:45 PM »
My lawyer charged $350 upfront, kept postponing it without charging, except to ask for the $40 mentioned in your screenshot, which means she obviously went to court at least that time. Eventually it was dismissed. She said I'm supposed to get that $40 back (it's bond, not a penalty), but I keep forgetting to call and ask for it back.
You can't just call. You need to write to

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1478 on: November 10, 2014, 05:17:07 PM »
Okay, so the guy told me that he postponed it again (and charged $100 again) But I am seeing online that NEXT TIME If I wanna postpone it I have to go down in person. Does this mean that the guy just potponed it online? Can you postpone it online. If yes, why do I pay him $100? (this was the second trial date)
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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1479 on: November 10, 2014, 05:34:05 PM »
You can't just call. You need to write to

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Albany NY 12228
I'm referring to the lawyer. I gave the bond to the lawyer, so the lawyer should be returning it if it's due to me.