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This thread discusses speeding tickets and traffic tickets in the state of New York. For parking tickets go here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=15090.0 or here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=23665.msg1088489. For moving violations outside of New York, please start a new thread and add a link here.

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Please read this wiki first. I am not an attorney and this is not legal advice.

Q: Can I get a plea bargain in New York City?
A: No. Every single ticket goes to trial, guilty or not guilty, in New York City. (The 5 boroughs of NY, Kings, Queens, Bronx and Richmond.)

Q: How long does it take for points to fall off your New York State record/license/abstract?
A: For DMV persistent violation purposes 18 months from the date of offense regardless of the date of conviction. At 3 years after the date of conviction on the following January first the points are no longer visible on the driving record which insurance companies and traffic prosecutors look at. DMV always keeps a record of your conviction and if you get too many points over your lifetime you could get a "10 year" revocation, however those records are not visible to insurance companies.

Q: Does it pay to fight my NY ticket or should I just pay it?
A: In order to figure the true cost of a traffic ticket conviction (aside from figuring out the total fines and the effects on your record) you need to call up your insurance company and ask them 2 questions. 1. How much will my insurance go up over the next 4 years if I pay this ticket? 2. How much money in "good driver discounts" will I loss over the next 4 years and how much does this add up to?

The reason you need to ask these 2 questions separately is because the insurance companies "shield themselves" from the statutory requirement to not raise insurance rates for a first violation (or speeds up to 15 MPH) by granting "good driver discounts", and then taking away these good driver discounts when you get your first violation. Therefore the (technically) correct answer to the first question you ask them could be "your insurance will not be raised at all". Then when you ask them the second question the answer may be in the thousands of dollars over the next 4 years, depending on your insurance bracket.

Q: How can I find my New York ticket online? 
A: If it is New York City ticket you can find it at https://transact.dmv.ny.gov/pleadnpay if you received a ticket anywhere outside of NYC and anywhere upstate you must contact the individual Court by phone or mail. There is no way to find your ticket online. Google is not able to find most small Courts as it get confused with giving you the most popular courts and attorneys, therefore I suggest you look up your Court at at www.town-court.com.

Q: How can I get a copy of my NYS driving record/license/abstract?
A: You can buy it at the statutory minimum of $7 at https://my.dmv.ny.gov/crm

Q: Do NJ tickets show up on a regular non CDL NY license?
A: As long as you pay them, no they will not.

Q: Do NY tickets show up on NJ licenses?
A: Yes as a 2 point out of state conviction (most violations).

Q: Do NJ tickets show up on a NY license?
A: As long as you pay them, no. Exceptions 1. if you have a CDL the NJ conviction will record on your NY license. 2. DUI/DWI and criminal driving convictions from NJ do record on your NY license. 3. as stated above if you don't respond to the ticket the suspension will follow you to NY. In addition NJ issues warrants for failing to respond to traffic tickets. 4 If you are convicted of a high speed (90+ MPH, 100+ MPH) in NJ the Judge may suspend your NJ driving privileges. 

Q: Can I pay Court fines with a CC?
A: In NYC for moving violations you can use https://transact.dmv.ny.gov/pleadnpay. For NYC parking tickets you can use http://www.nyc.gov/html/dof/html/parking/parking.shtml. As far as "upstate" Courts go, most Courts will allow you to pay with visa or mastercard in person. Many Courts have a CC sheet which you can fill in and mail back, other Courts have a third party processor such as https://www.ncourt.com to accept cc payments. Call the Court to find out what options they have. No one (so far that I have seen) will take CCs over the phone.

Q: I received a camera ticket for a red light (3 points) or speeding (3-11 points) or a bus lane violation (2 points). Do traffic tickets issued from a camera add points to my license?
A: Camera Tickets never go on your license as they are issued against the car and not the driver. Therefor a camera ticket will not add points to your license or increase your insurance.

Q: If I push a ticket off for 18 months and then I am convicted, can I still be suspended by the DMV for having more than 11 points?
A: Pushing off a ticket will not help protect you from DMV actions. The reason is as follows: if you receive 2 tickets worth 6 points each on the same day, and you plead guilty to one of them on that same day and you push the second ticket off for 5 years, and then you plead guilty to that second ticket, the DMV computer will look at the 2 dates of violation and say "the motorist accumulated (more than) 11 points within an 18 month period" and issue a persistent violator suspension against you license.

Insurance companies work the other way around. They can only raise your premium after your date of conviction. Therefore in our example the insurance companies will increase your insurance after the first conviction appears on your record when they renew your policy (which will stay on your record for 3 years and then until the next January 1st) and then they will increase your rates again after the second ticket conviction shows up on your record when they renew your policy, (once again this second ticket will stay on the record for  3 years plus until the next January first. It follows that pleading/being found guilty in December saves 11 months of policy increase, and if there is a way to lock in a one year policy right before a conviction in December you can be looking at a car increase for only 2 years and 1 day, instead of 4 years minus one day.)

Travelers Insurance offers 1 year rates.
Geico is 6 months.

Traffic Ticket Lawyers:

State
New York Attorney Matisyahu Wolfberg http://www.speedingdefense.com/
New York Attorney Zev Goldstein www.zevgoldsteinlaw.com 845-356-7770
New York Attorney Benjamin Goldman https://www.benjamingoldmanlawoffice.com/ 212-203-3810
New Jersey and New York Attorney Adam H. Rosenblum www.ticketdefenselaw.com
New Jersey Attorney Leib Klein www.avvo.com/attorneys/08701-nj-leib-klein-1602182.html 732-987-7040

Great Upstate NY lawyer at very cheap prices. http://jaydrillings.net/

Not that many parking ticket lawyers!
Parking ticket Non Lawyer (NYC)
Cathy Mei She takes 50% to fight the parking or camera ticket
Office Number 212-349-4978
Email 329ticket@gmail.com
Fax 646-699-3630

Parking Expert non attorney (718) 384-5052

Non attorney runner http://www.myticketsnyc.com/

Non attorney runner http://www.wefighttickets.com/

10+ Counties in upstate NY have diversion programs, allowing you to dismiss the ticket for a fine and defensive driving class. Conditions and restrictions apply. Check the District Attorney's website for your county: Allegany, Broome, Cayuga, Chenango, Clinton, Franklin, Livingston, Orleans, Otsego, Tioga, and Wyoming.

This wiki is not legal advice, nor the advice of an attorney.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1520 on: December 23, 2014, 02:09:28 AM »
Anyway to get out of a speeding ticket I have a court date tomorrow

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1521 on: December 24, 2014, 08:04:31 PM »
i got a parking ticket in new york for having my muni meter receipt upside down. It says on the ticket "receipt turn over" can i win that by showing them a copy of my receipt which was still valid at the time of ticket?

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1522 on: December 24, 2014, 10:03:37 PM »
i got a parking ticket in new york for having my muni meter receipt upside down. It says on the ticket "receipt turn over" can i win that by showing them a copy of my receipt which was still valid at the time of ticket?
that's crazy

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1523 on: December 24, 2014, 10:24:52 PM »
@Hirshtg

Was driving on the NJ Turnpike, cruise control set on 73. Get pulled over just as the Turnpike changes from 65 to 55 (for a small stretch before returning to 65).

Cop said he paced me at 80  :o :o and writes me a ticket for 80 in a 55  >:(

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1524 on: December 24, 2014, 11:05:05 PM »
@Hirshtg Was driving on the NJ Turnpike, cruise control set on 73. Get pulled over just as the Turnpike changes from 65 to 55 (for a small stretch before returning to 65). Cop said he paced me at 80  :o :o and writes me a ticket for 80 in a 55  >:(

Advice?

Pace means that he used his own speedometer to estimate how fast you were going. Often that is where the police wait, right where the speed drops.

Do you have a NJ license? Were you on the NJ side?

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1525 on: December 25, 2014, 01:15:58 AM »
i got a parking ticket in new york for having my muni meter receipt upside down. It says on the ticket "receipt turn over" can i win that by showing them a copy of my receipt which was still valid at the time of ticket?
Yes

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1526 on: December 25, 2014, 02:36:32 PM »
Pace means that he used his own speedometer to estimate how fast you were going. Often that is where the police wait, right where the speed drops.

Do you have a NJ license? Were you on the NJ side?

NJ license.

What do you mean by NJ side?
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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1527 on: December 26, 2014, 01:42:50 PM »
Cop pulled me over for passing a red light in a major intersection he ended up giving me (citing my honesty) a ticket for "failed to provide proper insurance card" he told me there is no points just send in ur insurance card & they'll dismiss the ticket.
Is that accurate? and what am I doing now? I would appreciate more detailed instructions.
Tnx in advance!

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1528 on: December 28, 2014, 12:23:23 PM »
NJ license.

What do you mean by NJ side?
I mean that you were in NJ, and not in NY. The GSP does extend into NY. You need to find out which court you are in front of and figure out how low they are willing to plead it down. Most of these NJ courts make you come in even when you retain an attorney, so you may as well plead it down yourself. This is if you can get a 0 point ticket out of them, which still goes on your record:( I am under the impression that most NJ courts don't drop down to non moving violations for 25 over, however if you could find that deal take it.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1529 on: December 28, 2014, 12:27:48 PM »
Cop pulled me over for passing a red light in a major intersection he ended up giving me (citing my honesty) a ticket for "failed to provide proper insurance card" he told me there is no points just send in ur insurance card & they'll dismiss the ticket.
Is that accurate? and what am I doing now? I would appreciate more detailed instructions.
Tnx in advance!

That is not the case in NY. Which state are you in?

 In NY there is "failing to have insurance" which is not dismissed unless you appear in court with a letter from the company, or if the Traffic Violations Bureau looks up your insurance record.

There is a different ticket for "failed to provide proper insurance card" which is a 0 point violation, however it is not dismissed on proof of insurance because the ticket if for not providing, which you can not rectify later. This ticket only exists in NYC, not in the rest of the state.

My understanding is that NJ has both of these tickets statewide, and they work the same way as in NY.

In conclusion, the police officer lied to you.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1530 on: December 28, 2014, 12:43:58 PM »
That is not the case in NY. Which state are you in?

 In NY there is "failing to have insurance" which is not dismissed unless you appear in court with a letter from the company, or if the Traffic Violations Bureau looks up your insurance record.

There is a different ticket for "failed to provide proper insurance card" which is a 0 point violation, however it is not dismissed on proof of insurance because the ticket if for not providing, which you can not rectify later. This ticket only exists in NYC, not in the rest of the state.

My understanding is that NJ has both of these tickets statewide, and they work the same way as in NY.

In conclusion, the police officer lied to you.
It was in upstate NY & the exact words are "fail produce valid ins. Card"

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1531 on: December 28, 2014, 03:16:41 PM »
I mean that you were in NJ, and not in NY. The GSP does extend into NY. You need to find out which court you are in front of and figure out how low they are willing to plead it down. Most of these NJ courts make you come in even when you retain an attorney, so you may as well plead it down yourself. This is if you can get a 0 point ticket out of them, which still goes on your record:( I am under the impression that most NJ courts don't drop down to non moving violations for 25 over, however if you could find that deal take it.

Who said anything about the GSP? :) I was pulled over on the NJ turnpike, and it was in NJ.

The court is Newark Municipal Court.

I'll certainly try to plead down for the reasons mentioned above: I had my cruise control set on 73 and he tagged me moments after the speed limit went from 65-55.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1532 on: December 28, 2014, 07:58:13 PM »
That is not the case in NY. Which state are you in?

 In NY there is "failing to have insurance" which is not dismissed unless you appear in court with a letter from the company, or if the Traffic Violations Bureau looks up your insurance record.

There is a different ticket for "failed to provide proper insurance card" which is a 0 point violation, however it is not dismissed on proof of insurance because the ticket if for not providing, which you can not rectify later. This ticket only exists in NYC, not in the rest of the state.

My understanding is that NJ has both of these tickets statewide, and they work the same way as in NY.

In conclusion, the police officer lied to you.

It was in upstate NY & the exact words are "fail produce valid ins. Card"
So what am I doing now?

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1533 on: December 29, 2014, 10:50:31 AM »
It was in upstate NY & the exact words are "fail produce valid ins. Card"

Oh good. What is the code directly above the words? The words don't matter. Is it 319-1?
You plead not guilty. Then you ask your insurance company for a letter stating that you were insured on that date and you bring that signed letter to the Court.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1534 on: December 29, 2014, 11:14:25 AM »
Oh good. What is the code directly above the words? The words don't matter. Is it 319-1?
You plead not guilty. Then you ask your insurance company for a letter stating that you were insured on that date and you bring that signed letter to the Court.
Yep 3191, the regular insurance card won't suffice?
It says on the ticket you should mail it in.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1535 on: December 30, 2014, 07:26:51 PM »
Yep 3191, the regular insurance card won't suffice?
It says on the ticket you should mail it in.
You mail in your not guilty plead to the traffic ticket, however then the court schedules a pre trial conference. The card itself isn't enough because the insurance company mails out the insurance card before you pay the premium.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1536 on: December 30, 2014, 08:42:52 PM »
You mail in your not guilty plead to the traffic ticket, however then the court schedules a pre trial conference. The card itself isn't enough because the insurance company mails out the insurance card before you pay the premium.
Thank you very much I really appreciate your help!

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1537 on: January 01, 2015, 08:24:35 PM »
Got pulled over in nj for going thru stop-sign.  gave the officer my pba card along with my licience & registration. He returned my licience & registration w/o giving me a ticket but kept the pbha card #FairTrade

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1538 on: January 01, 2015, 08:38:10 PM »
Got pulled over in nj for going thru stop-sign.  gave the officer my pba card along with my licience & registration. He returned my licience & registration w/o giving me a ticket but kept the pbha card #FairTrade


That is the way PBA cards work. The officer who gave you the card owes the officer who pulled you a favor. 

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1539 on: January 01, 2015, 08:47:14 PM »
Got pulled over in nj for going thru stop-sign.  gave the officer my pba card along with my licience & registration. He returned my licience & registration w/o giving me a ticket but kept the pbha card #FairTrade
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