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This thread discusses speeding tickets and traffic tickets in the state of New York. For parking tickets go here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=15090.0 or here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=23665.msg1088489. For moving violations outside of New York, please start a new thread and add a link here.

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Please read this wiki first. I am not an attorney and this is not legal advice.

Q: Can I get a plea bargain in New York City?
A: No. Every single ticket goes to trial, guilty or not guilty, in New York City. (The 5 boroughs of NY, Kings, Queens, Bronx and Richmond.)

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Q: How long does it take for points to fall off your New York State record/license/abstract?
A: For DMV persistent violation purposes 18 months from the date of offense regardless of the date of conviction. At 3 years after the date of conviction on the following January first the points are no longer visible on the driving record which insurance companies and traffic prosecutors look at. DMV always keeps a record of your conviction and if you get too many points over your lifetime you could get a "10 year" revocation, however those records are not visible to insurance companies.

Q: Does it pay to fight my NY ticket or should I just pay it?
A: In order to figure the true cost of a traffic ticket conviction (aside from figuring out the total fines and the effects on your record) you need to call up your insurance company and ask them 2 questions. 1. How much will my insurance go up over the next 4 years if I pay this ticket? 2. How much money in "good driver discounts" will I loss over the next 4 years and how much does this add up to?

The reason you need to ask these 2 questions separately is because the insurance companies "shield themselves" from the statutory requirement to not raise insurance rates for a first violation (or speeds up to 15 MPH) by granting "good driver discounts", and then taking away these good driver discounts when you get your first violation. Therefore the (technically) correct answer to the first question you ask them could be "your insurance will not be raised at all". Then when you ask them the second question the answer may be in the thousands of dollars over the next 4 years, depending on your insurance bracket.

Q: How can I find my New York ticket online? 
A: If it is New York City ticket you can find it at https://transact.dmv.ny.gov/pleadnpay if you received a ticket anywhere outside of NYC and anywhere upstate you must contact the individual Court by phone or mail. There is no way to find your ticket online. Google is not able to find most small Courts as it get confused with giving you the most popular courts and attorneys, therefore I suggest you look up your Court at at www.town-court.com.

Q: How can I get a copy of my NYS driving record/license/abstract?
A: You can buy it at the statutory minimum of $7 at https://my.dmv.ny.gov/crm

Q: Do NJ tickets show up on a regular non CDL NY license?
A: As long as you pay them, no they will not.

Q: Do NY tickets show up on NJ licenses?
A: Yes as a 2 point out of state conviction (most violations).

Q: Do NJ tickets show up on a NY license?
A: As long as you pay them, no. Exceptions 1. if you have a CDL the NJ conviction will record on your NY license. 2. DUI/DWI and criminal driving convictions from NJ do record on your NY license. 3. as stated above if you don't respond to the ticket the suspension will follow you to NY. In addition NJ issues warrants for failing to respond to traffic tickets. 4 If you are convicted of a high speed (90+ MPH, 100+ MPH) in NJ the Judge may suspend your NJ driving privileges. 

Q: Can I pay Court fines with a CC?
A: In NYC for moving violations you can use https://transact.dmv.ny.gov/pleadnpay. For NYC parking tickets you can use http://www.nyc.gov/html/dof/html/parking/parking.shtml. As far as "upstate" Courts go, most Courts will allow you to pay with visa or mastercard in person. Many Courts have a CC sheet which you can fill in and mail back, other Courts have a third party processor such as https://www.ncourt.com to accept cc payments. Call the Court to find out what options they have. No one (so far that I have seen) will take CCs over the phone.

Q: I received a camera ticket for a red light (3 points) or speeding (3-11 points) or a bus lane violation (2 points). Do traffic tickets issued from a camera add points to my license?
A: Camera Tickets never go on your license as they are issued against the car and not the driver. Therefor a camera ticket will not add points to your license or increase your insurance.

Q: If I push a ticket off for 18 months and then I am convicted, can I still be suspended by the DMV for having more than 11 points?
A: Pushing off a ticket will not help protect you from DMV actions. The reason is as follows: if you receive 2 tickets worth 6 points each on the same day, and you plead guilty to one of them on that same day and you push the second ticket off for 5 years, and then you plead guilty to that second ticket, the DMV computer will look at the 2 dates of violation and say "the motorist accumulated (more than) 11 points within an 18 month period" and issue a persistent violator suspension against you license.

Insurance companies work the other way around. They can only raise your premium after your date of conviction. Therefore in our example the insurance companies will increase your insurance after the first conviction appears on your record when they renew your policy (which will stay on your record for 3 years and then until the next January 1st) and then they will increase your rates again after the second ticket conviction shows up on your record when they renew your policy, (once again this second ticket will stay on the record for  3 years plus until the next January first. It follows that pleading/being found guilty in December saves 11 months of policy increase, and if there is a way to lock in a one year policy right before a conviction in December you can be looking at a car increase for only 2 years and 1 day, instead of 4 years minus one day.)

Travelers Insurance offers 1 year rates.
Geico is 6 months.

Traffic Ticket Lawyers:

State
New York Attorney Matisyahu Wolfberg http://www.speedingdefense.com/
New York Attorney Zev Goldstein www.zevgoldsteinlaw.com 845-356-7770
New Jersey Attorney Adam H. Rosenblum www.ticketdefenselaw.com
New Jersey Attorney Leib Klein www.avvo.com/attorneys/08701-nj-leib-klein-1602182.html 732-987-7040

Great Upstate NY lawyer at very cheap prices. http://jaydrillings.net/

Not that many parking ticket lawyers!
Parking ticket Non Lawyer (NYC)
Cathy Mei She takes 50% to fight the parking or camera ticket
Office Number 212-349-4978
Email 329ticket@gmail.com
Fax 646-699-3630

Parking Expert non attorney (718) 384-5052

Non attorney runner http://www.myticketsnyc.com/

Non attorney runner http://www.wefighttickets.com/

10 Counties in upstate NY have diversion programs, allowing you to dismiss the ticket for a fine and defensive driving class. Conditions and restrictions apply. Check the District Attorney's website for your county: Allegany, Broome, Cayuga, Chenango, Franklin, Livingston, Orleans, Otsego, Tioga, and Wyoming.

This wiki is not legal advice, or the advice of an attorney.
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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #2145 on: November 01, 2015, 11:49:15 AM »
I have a pre-trial conference for my stop sign ticket in NH.  Should I call the prosecutor's office and ask if we can confer on the phone?
In many small towns they will do it over the phone.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #2146 on: November 01, 2015, 10:31:08 PM »
I got a seat-belt ticket in Brooklyn more than 2 years ago. I pushed it off once, and then the DMV pushed it off again, but the hearing is finally coming up soon. The first question is if I should pay a lawyer to try to fight it? I don't think seat belt tickets put points on your license, and even if they do, it was more than 2 years ago, so my license is fine (points go by time of ticket, not conviction). But I assume insurance finds out about it, and rates will go up, so it's still worth trying, yes?
Adult seat belt? No points, but they do go on your record. As for the record/points falling off, DMV counts the violation from the date of offense. (So if you had 9 points hanging out 2 years ago and you were convicted of 2 points 2 years later they would still suspend your license. Being that adult seat belt tickets don't carry points, it would be hard to get suspended without having 3 prior adult seat belt tickets.)As you point out, the car insurance company would count the violation from the date of conviction.

Is it worth fighting? It depends how much your insurance would go up from this minor violation plus the fine, against the cost of hiring an attorney to fight it plus the risk value of the above mentioned. With an adult seat belt it may not be worth it.

Just following up on this. I sent back the ticket about 7 weeks ago, plead not guilty, and wrote on the ticket manually "officer deposition requested". I already got a court date but never received a deposition. Am I supposed to receive that or is it something the officer brings with him to court?

Which court is this? Traffic Violations Bureau? They don't issue supporting depositions. Any other small courts the officer only needs to issue a supporting deposition if you request it within 30 of the response date. They usually mail it to you as they only have 30 days to issue it from the request date. If the officer didn't issue a supporting deposition, they you need to make a written motion to dismiss.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #2147 on: November 02, 2015, 01:20:25 AM »
My daughter made a turn out of Prospect Park where she wasn't allowed to.
The officer who stopped her told her he was being nice by giving her a 'pink ticket' section 103 C3 - Disobey park sign.  It gives her a court date in Jan.
Does she need to go or can she pay a fine by mail?  Does she need a lawyer? What should she do?

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #2148 on: November 02, 2015, 10:08:34 AM »
Always wondered if I swap licenses from state A to state B between violation and conviction of it would post to my record in state B.
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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #2149 on: November 09, 2015, 02:52:03 PM »
My daughter made a turn out of Prospect Park where she wasn't allowed to.
The officer who stopped her told her he was being nice by giving her a 'pink ticket' section 103 C3 - Disobey park sign.  It gives her a court date in Jan.
Does she need to go or can she pay a fine by mail?  Does she need a lawyer? What should she do?
Pink tickets could be a criminal infraction, and sometimes a cheap administrative charge. Have her show it to someone.

Always wondered if I swap licenses from state A to state B between violation and conviction of it would post to my record in state B.
It depends on how competent the two states are in the moment. They should. 

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #2150 on: November 11, 2015, 09:09:56 PM »
Have some nyc tickets that I've been rescheduling for a couple years. Are there any cons with retroactive points (if I lose) if I've have 0 points ever to date?
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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #2151 on: November 11, 2015, 10:04:16 PM »
I got a ticket for speeding 40 in a 25 zone. The ticket mentions that the violation is speeding in a school zone. I don't recall any such signage (EP & Washington Ave). What are the small print laws about this and what's the best way to fight it?

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #2152 on: November 11, 2015, 10:25:24 PM »
Have some nyc tickets that I've been rescheduling for a couple years. Are there any cons with retroactive points (if I lose) if I've have 0 points ever to date?
Your actual abstract goes by date of conviction And is not retroactive

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #2153 on: November 11, 2015, 10:27:57 PM »
Has anybody gotten out of the traffic trap at the end of coney island ave and the belt. making that u-turn onto the service road?

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #2154 on: November 12, 2015, 01:28:42 PM »
I got a ticket (NYC) for an expired inspection sticker. The inspection expired 2 days prior. Upon seeing the ticket I got the car inspected and received a new sticker the same day (within a few hours of receiving the ticket). Is there any basis for disputing the ticket?

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #2155 on: November 12, 2015, 01:41:52 PM »
I got a ticket (NYC) for an expired inspection sticker. The inspection expired 2 days prior. Upon seeing the ticket I got the car inspected and received a new sticker the same day (within a few hours of receiving the ticket). Is there any basis for disputing the ticket?
I'm pretty sure they have a record of when your inspection was renewed
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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #2156 on: November 12, 2015, 02:17:12 PM »
I got a ticket (NYC) for an expired inspection sticker. The inspection expired 2 days prior. Upon seeing the ticket I got the car inspected and received a new sticker the same day (within a few hours of receiving the ticket). Is there any basis for disputing the ticket?

No.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #2157 on: November 12, 2015, 05:39:30 PM »
I got a ticket for speeding 40 in a 25 zone. The ticket mentions that the violation is speeding in a school zone. I don't recall any such signage (EP & Washington Ave). What are the small print laws about this and what's the best way to fight it?
It needs to be a posted school zone and part of the fine is doubled.

I got a ticket (NYC) for an expired inspection sticker. The inspection expired 2 days prior. Upon seeing the ticket I got the car inspected and received a new sticker the same day (within a few hours of receiving the ticket). Is there any basis for disputing the ticket?
no

Have some nyc tickets that I've been rescheduling for a couple years. Are there any cons with retroactive points (if I lose) if I've have 0 points ever to date?
See the wiki.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #2158 on: November 12, 2015, 05:41:48 PM »
It needs to be a posted school zone and part of the fine is doubled.
 no
 See the wiki.
That's what I'm unclear about. Seems to say that if I succeed in pushing the court date off for 3 years from the date of offense, then the insurance and traffic prosecutors will never see it regardless of a guilty conviction. Is this proven true?
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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #2159 on: November 12, 2015, 06:51:27 PM »


part of the fine is doubled.

What does that mean?
It just says $50 for going 40 in a 25 school zone.