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This thread discusses speeding tickets and traffic tickets in the state of New York. For parking tickets go here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=15090.0 or here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=23665.msg1088489. For moving violations outside of New York, please start a new thread and add a link here.

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Please read this wiki first. I am not an attorney and this is not legal advice.

Q: Can I get a plea bargain in New York City?
A: No. Every single ticket goes to trial, guilty or not guilty, in New York City. (The 5 boroughs of NY, Kings, Queens, Bronx and Richmond.)

Q: How long does it take for points to fall off your New York State record/license/abstract?
A: For DMV persistent violation purposes 18 months from the date of offense regardless of the date of conviction. At 3 years after the date of conviction on the following January first the points are no longer visible on the driving record which insurance companies and traffic prosecutors look at. DMV always keeps a record of your conviction and if you get too many points over your lifetime you could get a "10 year" revocation, however those records are not visible to insurance companies.

Q: Does it pay to fight my NY ticket or should I just pay it?
A: In order to figure the true cost of a traffic ticket conviction (aside from figuring out the total fines and the effects on your record) you need to call up your insurance company and ask them 2 questions. 1. How much will my insurance go up over the next 4 years if I pay this ticket? 2. How much money in "good driver discounts" will I loss over the next 4 years and how much does this add up to?

The reason you need to ask these 2 questions separately is because the insurance companies "shield themselves" from the statutory requirement to not raise insurance rates for a first violation (or speeds up to 15 MPH) by granting "good driver discounts", and then taking away these good driver discounts when you get your first violation. Therefore the (technically) correct answer to the first question you ask them could be "your insurance will not be raised at all". Then when you ask them the second question the answer may be in the thousands of dollars over the next 4 years, depending on your insurance bracket.

Q: How can I find my New York ticket online? 
A: If it is New York City ticket you can find it at https://transact.dmv.ny.gov/pleadnpay if you received a ticket anywhere outside of NYC and anywhere upstate you must contact the individual Court by phone or mail. There is no way to find your ticket online. Google is not able to find most small Courts as it get confused with giving you the most popular courts and attorneys, therefore I suggest you look up your Court at at www.town-court.com.

Q: How can I get a copy of my NYS driving record/license/abstract?
A: You can buy it at the statutory minimum of $7 at https://my.dmv.ny.gov/crm

Q: Do NJ tickets show up on a regular non CDL NY license?
A: As long as you pay them, no they will not.

Q: Do NY tickets show up on NJ licenses?
A: Yes as a 2 point out of state conviction (most violations).

Q: Do NJ tickets show up on a NY license?
A: As long as you pay them, no. Exceptions 1. if you have a CDL the NJ conviction will record on your NY license. 2. DUI/DWI and criminal driving convictions from NJ do record on your NY license. 3. as stated above if you don't respond to the ticket the suspension will follow you to NY. In addition NJ issues warrants for failing to respond to traffic tickets. 4 If you are convicted of a high speed (90+ MPH, 100+ MPH) in NJ the Judge may suspend your NJ driving privileges. 

Q: Can I pay Court fines with a CC?
A: In NYC for moving violations you can use https://transact.dmv.ny.gov/pleadnpay. For NYC parking tickets you can use http://www.nyc.gov/html/dof/html/parking/parking.shtml. As far as "upstate" Courts go, most Courts will allow you to pay with visa or mastercard in person. Many Courts have a CC sheet which you can fill in and mail back, other Courts have a third party processor such as https://www.ncourt.com to accept cc payments. Call the Court to find out what options they have. No one (so far that I have seen) will take CCs over the phone.

Q: I received a camera ticket for a red light (3 points) or speeding (3-11 points) or a bus lane violation (2 points). Do traffic tickets issued from a camera add points to my license?
A: Camera Tickets never go on your license as they are issued against the car and not the driver. Therefor a camera ticket will not add points to your license or increase your insurance.

Q: If I push a ticket off for 18 months and then I am convicted, can I still be suspended by the DMV for having more than 11 points?
A: Pushing off a ticket will not help protect you from DMV actions. The reason is as follows: if you receive 2 tickets worth 6 points each on the same day, and you plead guilty to one of them on that same day and you push the second ticket off for 5 years, and then you plead guilty to that second ticket, the DMV computer will look at the 2 dates of violation and say "the motorist accumulated (more than) 11 points within an 18 month period" and issue a persistent violator suspension against you license.

Insurance companies work the other way around. They can only raise your premium after your date of conviction. Therefore in our example the insurance companies will increase your insurance after the first conviction appears on your record when they renew your policy (which will stay on your record for 3 years and then until the next January 1st) and then they will increase your rates again after the second ticket conviction shows up on your record when they renew your policy, (once again this second ticket will stay on the record for  3 years plus until the next January first. It follows that pleading/being found guilty in December saves 11 months of policy increase, and if there is a way to lock in a one year policy right before a conviction in December you can be looking at a car increase for only 2 years and 1 day, instead of 4 years minus one day.)

Travelers Insurance offers 1 year rates.
Geico is 6 months.

Traffic Ticket Lawyers:

State
New York Attorney Matisyahu Wolfberg http://www.speedingdefense.com/
New York Attorney Zev Goldstein www.zevgoldsteinlaw.com 845-356-7770
New York Attorney Benjamin Goldman https://www.benjamingoldmanlawoffice.com/ 212-203-3810
New Jersey and New York Attorney Adam H. Rosenblum www.ticketdefenselaw.com
New Jersey Attorney Leib Klein www.avvo.com/attorneys/08701-nj-leib-klein-1602182.html 732-987-7040

Great Upstate NY lawyer at very cheap prices. http://jaydrillings.net/

Not that many parking ticket lawyers!
Parking ticket Non Lawyer (NYC)
Cathy Mei She takes 50% to fight the parking or camera ticket
Office Number 212-349-4978
Email 329ticket@gmail.com
Fax 646-699-3630

Parking Expert non attorney (718) 384-5052

Non attorney runner http://www.myticketsnyc.com/

Non attorney runner http://www.wefighttickets.com/

10+ Counties in upstate NY have diversion programs, allowing you to dismiss the ticket for a fine and defensive driving class. Conditions and restrictions apply. Check the District Attorney's website for your county: Allegany, Broome, Cayuga, Chenango, Clinton, Franklin, Livingston, Orleans, Otsego, Tioga, and Wyoming.

This wiki is not legal advice, nor the advice of an attorney.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #2300 on: February 01, 2016, 09:00:45 PM »
I got a moving violation for 'failure to yield to a pedestrian in the crosswalk' in Feb 2015.
I pleaded not guilty on line and got a hearing date for (this friday) Feb 2016.
I looked on line now, and I can move it to Feb 2017.
Do I benefit if I do this?
This is what I understand from the information in this thread and elsewhere:
If I am convicted in Feb 2017, I will get points on my licence, but they will immediately not count because it's too old.
a)Unless I got 12 or more points in a 18 month period - that included the Feb 2015 violation date?
B) I took a 'drivers education' class 4 months ago. (approx Aug 2015)


But for insurance purposes, I am penalized for the conviction going forward.  So if I'm convicted Feb 2017, it will stay on my driving record with the insurance companies until the end of Dec (5 years?) 2022 [ or 3 years - end Dec 2020 ]


Do I have this right?


How do I actually fight the ticket and not get convicted?
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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #2301 on: February 02, 2016, 11:21:40 PM »
BUMP again *sigh*
You might get better luck in the parking tickets thread... Check out the wiki for a link.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #2302 on: February 03, 2016, 06:56:07 PM »
Terri Kalker just got a 6pt speeding ticket dismissed for me.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #2303 on: February 03, 2016, 07:33:48 PM »
Terri Kalker just got a 6pt speeding ticket dismissed for me.

Yah, I've used her.  She got my ticket off.  Was pending for like year and a half or two years, but I guess eventually the officer didn't show.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #2304 on: February 03, 2016, 09:53:29 PM »
Yah, I've used her.  She got my ticket off.  Was pending for like year and a half or two years, but I guess eventually the officer didn't show.
I think mine was a full 3 years

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #2305 on: February 04, 2016, 03:56:26 PM »
I think mine was a full 3 years
gotta double check but I think I beat both of you :P

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #2306 on: February 04, 2016, 04:28:37 PM »
You might get better luck in the parking tickets thread... Check out the wiki for a link.
Got what I needed but this used to be the Traffic Tickets thread and someone just changed it to moving violations... Whatevs
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2307 on: February 05, 2016, 04:44:09 PM »
Anyone have experience with seatbelt ticket?
I took mine off for a few seconds at a red light in order to reach something on the back seat and a cop saw me when I put it back on. He pulled me over for driving without a seatbelt.
Any ideas?

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2308 on: February 07, 2016, 08:51:48 PM »
Anyone have experience with seatbelt ticket?
I took mine off for a few seconds at a red light in order to reach something on the back seat and a cop saw me when I put it back on. He pulled me over for driving without a seatbelt.
Any ideas?
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2309 on: February 08, 2016, 12:40:35 AM »
Bump
Where exactly was this? (Whoever can help you would probably need this info.)

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #2310 on: February 08, 2016, 07:33:53 PM »
I got a moving violation for 'failure to yield to a pedestrian in the crosswalk' in Feb 2015.
I pleaded not guilty on line and got a hearing date for (this friday) Feb 2016.
I looked on line now, and I can move it to Feb 2017. Do I benefit if I do this?
This is what I understand from the information in this thread and elsewhere:
1)If I am convicted in Feb 2017, I will get points on my licence, but they will immediately not count because it's too old.
 
           a)Unless I got 12 or more points in a 18 month period - that included the Feb 2015 violation date?
           B) I took a 'drivers education' class 4 months ago. (approx Aug 2015)

2) But for insurance purposes, I am penalized for the conviction going forward.  So if I'm convicted Feb 2017, it will stay on my driving record with the insurance companies until the end of Dec (5 years?) 2022 [ or 3 years - end Dec 2020 ]
3) How do I actually fight the ticket and not get convicted?

Hi ckmk47!

1) (a) If you get a 4 point ticket on January 1st 2015 and plead guilty that same day, you live with the uncertainty as to whether you will receive any more points over the next 18 months. If you do not receiving any other points within 18 months the 5 points which you received will be irrelevant on your life. It works the same way when you push the court date off for 18 months: now you know that you didn't receive any other points within 18 months for receiving the 4 point ticket. If however you did receive another 7 points within the 1 month period, regardless of when you were convicted of either ticket, your license would be suspended. As you can see pushing the ticket off does nothing for you with the DMV.

b) if you push 12 points worth of ticket off for longer than 18 month and then you you take the defensive driving course it won't work. In this regard you are worse off because you pushed off the ticket.

2) For insurance the purposes they count from the date of conviction (Feb. 2017) until January 1st 2021 (3 years + January). For this reason you are better off with a December trial date than a January (or February) trial date.

3) How to fight and win a traffic ticket is the question;) Good luck.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2311 on: February 08, 2016, 07:46:06 PM »
Anyone have experience with seatbelt ticket?
I took mine off for a few seconds at a red light in order to reach something on the back seat and a cop saw me when I put it back on. He pulled me over for driving without a seatbelt.
Any ideas?
Where did you receive it? (which state, county, city)

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2312 on: February 08, 2016, 08:51:54 PM »
Where did you receive it? (which state, county, city)
Brooklyn

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #2313 on: February 09, 2016, 12:34:22 PM »
Hi ckmk47!
.....
Good luck.
Thanks Hirshthg for your answer!
From today back 18 months, I only have the ‘failure to yield to a pedestrian’ from 12 months ago.  And I had a seatbelt  ticket 11 months before that.
Seems like the ‘points’ won’t be a problem because I’m not over the 12 point limit but the conviction will affect my insurance rates.  Should I get a lawyer to handle the hearing? I have an ‘at fault’ accident 6 months before the ticket. Will my insurance anyway be high, so I shouldn’t care about the conviction?
(Can I get the hearing moved back to December 2016 from the ‘nearest date’ that they gave me in feb 2017?
Can a lawyer possibly move the date if I can't?)

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2314 on: February 09, 2016, 06:02:57 PM »
Brooklyn

You can show up at trial and question the officer. They won't let you plead it down.

Thanks Hirshthg for your answer!
From today back 18 months, I only have the ‘failure to yield to a pedestrian’ from 12 months ago.  And I had a seatbelt  ticket 11 months before that.
Seems like the ‘points’ won’t be a problem because I’m not over the 12 point limit but the conviction will affect my insurance rates.  Should I get a lawyer to handle the hearing? I have an ‘at fault’ accident 6 months before the ticket. Will my insurance anyway be high, so I shouldn’t care about the conviction?
(Can I get the hearing moved back to December 2016 from the ‘nearest date’ that they gave me in feb 2017?
Can a lawyer possibly move the date if I can't?)
Once you accumulate 6 points within 18 months you get a $300 fine, and every additional point costs you another $75. As for moving trial dates back, its not usually possible.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2315 on: February 10, 2016, 09:10:27 AM »

Once you accumulate 6 points within 18 months you get a $300 fine, and every additional point costs you another $75. As for moving trial dates back, its not usually possible.
The 'failure...' is 3 points.  How much is a seatbelt? Sounds like I should hire a lawyer to avoid getting convicted.
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2316 on: February 11, 2016, 07:10:13 PM »
How much is a seatbelt?

That was 0 pts for me in Westchester County.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2317 on: February 11, 2016, 10:02:04 PM »
That was 0 pts for me in Westchester County.
In general if the ticket is for the driver not wearing it, it's no points. If it's for someone under 16, then it's 3 points iinm

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2318 on: February 12, 2016, 01:00:32 AM »
In general if the ticket is for the driver not wearing it, it's no points. If it's for someone under 16, then it's 3 points iinm
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2319 on: February 12, 2016, 08:42:46 AM »
I got a ticket for passing a all way stop sign. I actually did stop before the sign there was a car parked in the corner so the cop couldn't see me. Is it worth fighting?