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This thread discusses speeding tickets and traffic tickets in the state of New York. For parking tickets go here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=15090.0 or here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=23665.msg1088489. For moving violations outside of New York, please start a new thread and add a link here.

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Please read this wiki first. I am not an attorney and this is not legal advice.

Q: Can I get a plea bargain in New York City?
A: No. Every single ticket goes to trial, guilty or not guilty, in New York City. (The 5 boroughs of NY, Kings, Queens, Bronx and Richmond.)

Q: How long does it take for points to fall off your New York State record/license/abstract?
A: For DMV persistent violation purposes 18 months from the date of offense regardless of the date of conviction. At 3 years after the date of conviction on the following January first the points are no longer visible on the driving record which insurance companies and traffic prosecutors look at. DMV always keeps a record of your conviction and if you get too many points over your lifetime you could get a "10 year" revocation, however those records are not visible to insurance companies.

Q: Does it pay to fight my NY ticket or should I just pay it?
A: In order to figure the true cost of a traffic ticket conviction (aside from figuring out the total fines and the effects on your record) you need to call up your insurance company and ask them 2 questions. 1. How much will my insurance go up over the next 4 years if I pay this ticket? 2. How much money in "good driver discounts" will I loss over the next 4 years and how much does this add up to?

The reason you need to ask these 2 questions separately is because the insurance companies "shield themselves" from the statutory requirement to not raise insurance rates for a first violation (or speeds up to 15 MPH) by granting "good driver discounts", and then taking away these good driver discounts when you get your first violation. Therefore the (technically) correct answer to the first question you ask them could be "your insurance will not be raised at all". Then when you ask them the second question the answer may be in the thousands of dollars over the next 4 years, depending on your insurance bracket.

Q: How can I find my New York ticket online? 
A: If it is New York City ticket you can find it at https://transact.dmv.ny.gov/pleadnpay if you received a ticket anywhere outside of NYC and anywhere upstate you must contact the individual Court by phone or mail. There is no way to find your ticket online. Google is not able to find most small Courts as it get confused with giving you the most popular courts and attorneys, therefore I suggest you look up your Court at at www.town-court.com.

Q: How can I get a copy of my NYS driving record/license/abstract?
A: You can buy it at the statutory minimum of $7 at https://my.dmv.ny.gov/crm

Q: Do NJ tickets show up on a regular non CDL NY license?
A: As long as you pay them, no they will not.

Q: Do NY tickets show up on NJ licenses?
A: Yes as a 2 point out of state conviction (most violations).

Q: Do NJ tickets show up on a NY license?
A: As long as you pay them, no. Exceptions 1. if you have a CDL the NJ conviction will record on your NY license. 2. DUI/DWI and criminal driving convictions from NJ do record on your NY license. 3. as stated above if you don't respond to the ticket the suspension will follow you to NY. In addition NJ issues warrants for failing to respond to traffic tickets. 4 If you are convicted of a high speed (90+ MPH, 100+ MPH) in NJ the Judge may suspend your NJ driving privileges. 

Q: Can I pay Court fines with a CC?
A: In NYC for moving violations you can use https://transact.dmv.ny.gov/pleadnpay. For NYC parking tickets you can use http://www.nyc.gov/html/dof/html/parking/parking.shtml. As far as "upstate" Courts go, most Courts will allow you to pay with visa or mastercard in person. Many Courts have a CC sheet which you can fill in and mail back, other Courts have a third party processor such as https://www.ncourt.com to accept cc payments. Call the Court to find out what options they have. No one (so far that I have seen) will take CCs over the phone.

Q: I received a camera ticket for a red light (3 points) or speeding (3-11 points) or a bus lane violation (2 points). Do traffic tickets issued from a camera add points to my license?
A: Camera Tickets never go on your license as they are issued against the car and not the driver. Therefor a camera ticket will not add points to your license or increase your insurance.

Q: If I push a ticket off for 18 months and then I am convicted, can I still be suspended by the DMV for having more than 11 points?
A: Pushing off a ticket will not help protect you from DMV actions. The reason is as follows: if you receive 2 tickets worth 6 points each on the same day, and you plead guilty to one of them on that same day and you push the second ticket off for 5 years, and then you plead guilty to that second ticket, the DMV computer will look at the 2 dates of violation and say "the motorist accumulated (more than) 11 points within an 18 month period" and issue a persistent violator suspension against you license.

Insurance companies work the other way around. They can only raise your premium after your date of conviction. Therefore in our example the insurance companies will increase your insurance after the first conviction appears on your record when they renew your policy (which will stay on your record for 3 years and then until the next January 1st) and then they will increase your rates again after the second ticket conviction shows up on your record when they renew your policy, (once again this second ticket will stay on the record for  3 years plus until the next January first. It follows that pleading/being found guilty in December saves 11 months of policy increase, and if there is a way to lock in a one year policy right before a conviction in December you can be looking at a car increase for only 2 years and 1 day, instead of 4 years minus one day.)

Travelers Insurance offers 1 year rates.
Geico is 6 months.

Traffic Ticket Lawyers:

State
New York Attorney Matisyahu Wolfberg http://www.speedingdefense.com/
New York Attorney Zev Goldstein www.zevgoldsteinlaw.com 845-356-7770
New York Attorney Benjamin Goldman https://www.benjamingoldmanlawoffice.com/ 212-203-3810
New Jersey and New York Attorney Adam H. Rosenblum www.ticketdefenselaw.com
New Jersey Attorney Leib Klein www.avvo.com/attorneys/08701-nj-leib-klein-1602182.html 732-987-7040

Great Upstate NY lawyer at very cheap prices. http://jaydrillings.net/

Not that many parking ticket lawyers!
Parking ticket Non Lawyer (NYC)
Cathy Mei She takes 50% to fight the parking or camera ticket
Office Number 212-349-4978
Email 329ticket@gmail.com
Fax 646-699-3630

Parking Expert non attorney (718) 384-5052

Non attorney runner http://www.myticketsnyc.com/

Non attorney runner http://www.wefighttickets.com/

10+ Counties in upstate NY have diversion programs, allowing you to dismiss the ticket for a fine and defensive driving class. Conditions and restrictions apply. Check the District Attorney's website for your county: Allegany, Broome, Cayuga, Chenango, Clinton, Franklin, Livingston, Orleans, Otsego, Tioga, and Wyoming.

This wiki is not legal advice, nor the advice of an attorney.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2440 on: May 16, 2016, 08:31:35 PM »
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2441 on: May 17, 2016, 04:01:05 PM »
I got a cell phone ticket in NYC. I have a NJ license. In NY, the ticket is 5 points, in NJ it's 0. I've seen opinions that at most 2 points will transfer to NJ, and at least 0, since the ticket doesn't get points in NJ.
Does anyone have any experience with this?

NJ will give you 2 points for any ticket conviction in NY as long as that offense is also recognized as a moving violation in NJ.

Although I do not practice this area of law in NJ, my understanding is as follows: New Jersey’s cell phone law is provided for in the New Jersey Motor Vehicle Act 39:4-97.3 entitled “Use of hands-free wireless telephone in moving vehicle.” 

The offense is considered a non-moving violation and does not currently carry any points.   Therefore, if you are convicted of this in NY I do not believe the points will carry over to NJ.  Keep in mind, however, that NY does track out of state drivers and if you get too many tickets in NY even with an out of state license you can lose the privilege to drive in NY.

You may want to consult a NJ lawyer to confirm.
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2442 on: May 18, 2016, 11:25:03 PM »
NJ will give you 2 points for any ticket conviction in NY as long as that offense is also recognized as a moving violation in NJ. Although I do not practice this area of law in NJ, my understanding is as follows: New Jersey’s cell phone law is provided for in the New Jersey Motor Vehicle Act 39:4-97.3 entitled “Use of hands-free wireless telephone in moving vehicle.”  The offense is considered a non-moving violation and does not currently carry any points.   Therefore, if you are convicted of this in NY I do not believe the points will carry over to NJ.  Keep in mind, however, that NY does track out of state drivers and if you get too many tickets in NY even with an out of state license you can lose the privilege to drive in NY. You may want to consult a NJ lawyer to confirm.

In general a "non moving violation" is one what does not affect one's driving record. Even a 0 point violation may be recorded on a driving record if it is a moving violation.

I am looking right now at one NJ record here which has a cell phone conviction in 2013 which does not have points. Note: the conviction IS on the record and insurance companies and prosecutors see it.

I have not seen a NJ record with points from a cell phone conviction recently. My NJ buddies tell me that one 2015 resolution was to provide two points for the cell phone convictions. Like PBaruch says, ask a NJ attorney yourself so you can sue his carrier when things go wrong:) In addition, all of the above is based on the premise that the MVC will actually act consistently. 

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2443 on: May 23, 2016, 06:51:07 PM »
I received a violation in cedar hurst for an expired emissions inspection. Is there anything to do about it or should I just pay it?

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2444 on: May 23, 2016, 07:07:16 PM »
I received a violation in cedar hurst for an expired emissions inspection. Is there anything to do about it or should I just pay it?
If you can get inspected today, you may be able to get it dismissed. I think.  Worth trying. (and then report back)
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2445 on: May 23, 2016, 09:11:03 PM »
I received a violation in cedar hurst for an expired emissions inspection. Is there anything to do about it or should I just pay it?

If your car was parked at the time, its a parking ticket, it doesn't affect your driving record.
It goes on your record if you were driving at the time.  Plead it down to a parking ticket.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2446 on: May 24, 2016, 02:16:25 PM »
I got a ticket in Spring Valley, NY for not wearing a seatbelt. What are my options? What am I looking at?
This time it's in Middletown, NY. Same thing? Just plead not guilty, and try to get a plea deal?
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2447 on: May 24, 2016, 03:36:08 PM »
I received a speeding violation in the town of Goshen over a month ago. I didn't hear from them anything yet. Is ignoring an option? Meaning to say, can they suspend my license before having sent me a letter by mail? Checked my license I have no pending tickets in the DMV record.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2448 on: May 24, 2016, 04:09:18 PM »
I received a speeding violation in the town of Goshen over a month ago. I didn't hear from them anything yet. Is ignoring an option? Meaning to say, can they suspend my license before having sent me a letter by mail? Checked my license I have no pending tickets in the DMV record.
They can suspend your license without sending anything, yes. I have a friend who's license got suspended 3 years later for an unpaid ticket. The court probably needed money then or was going through old records.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2449 on: May 24, 2016, 05:41:06 PM »
This time it's in Middletown, NY. Same thing? Just plead not guilty, and try to get a plea deal?
How about you start wearing a seatbelt?  It's safer and cheaper.
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2450 on: May 24, 2016, 07:07:46 PM »
How about you start wearing a seatbelt?  It's safer and cheaper.


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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2451 on: May 25, 2016, 12:33:25 AM »
"I got a ticket in Spring Valley, NY for not wearing a seatbelt. What are my options? What am I looking at?"
This time it's in Middletown, NY. Same thing? Just plead not guilty, and try to get a plea deal?
Same game, different location.

I received a speeding violation in the town of Goshen over a month ago. I didn't hear from them anything yet. Is ignoring an option? Meaning to say, can they suspend my license before having sent me a letter by mail? Checked my license I have no pending tickets in the DMV record.
Did you plead not guilty to begin with? Sometimes tickets fall through the cracks. If it really has been a full year that they missed you, your best bet is to continue waiting for a notice. If its only 6 months or so, they may still issue that suspension.

The town of Goshen court cannot suspend your itself for this speeding ticket. They would need to send the order to DMV who would issue a letter with a 30 day notice. As long as the DMV has your correct address, they probably will send your suspension to that address.

They can suspend your license without sending anything, yes. I have a friend who's license got suspended 3 years later for an unpaid ticket. The court probably needed money then or was going through old records.
You know this how?

How about you start wearing a seatbelt?  It's safer and cheaper.
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2452 on: May 25, 2016, 12:40:10 AM »

Did you plead not guilty to begin with? Sometimes tickets fall through the cracks. If it really has been a full year that they missed you, your best bet is to continue waiting for a notice. If its only 6 months or so, they may still issue that suspension.

The town of Goshen court cannot suspend your itself for this speeding ticket. They would need to send the order to DMV who would issue a letter with a 30 day notice. As long as the DMV has your correct address, they probably will send your suspension to that address.

I didn't plead,  I'm just sitting and waiting hoping I won't hear from them ever. This is good news that the town of Goshen can't suspend with out a letter,  so I think sitting and waiting is a good option.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2453 on: May 25, 2016, 01:57:13 AM »


You know this how?
Look what I wrote. I have a friend that was jailed for that. Was pulled over while driving with a suspended license. From an unpaid ticket from 3 years ago. They never sent anything. Or it got lost in the mail. Or they lied.

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« Reply #2454 on: May 27, 2016, 01:49:14 AM »
Look what I wrote. I have a friend that was jailed for that. Was pulled over while driving with a suspended license. From an unpaid ticket from 3 years ago. They never sent anything. Or it got lost in the mail. Or they lied.
Or he lied, or didn't read his mail, or didn't give the DMV his new address. The point is you don't know because you don't know what he did or didn't do.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2455 on: May 27, 2016, 04:05:49 AM »
Or he lied, or didn't read his mail, or didn't give the DMV his new address. The point is you don't know because you don't know what he did or didn't do.
He lives with me, I'm in charge of mail. I know what he did or didn't, or I wouldn't have mentioned it.

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« Reply #2456 on: May 29, 2016, 02:21:15 AM »
He lives with me, I'm in charge of mail. I know what he did or didn't, or I wouldn't have mentioned it.
Quite a friend:) He generally receives mail from the DMV at your address?

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2457 on: May 29, 2016, 02:40:27 AM »
have a NJ license...already have far too many NY points pending...tonight i received a speeding ticket going 90 in 65 AND reckless driving ticket from state trooper in Howell who is the best person to talk to? thanks.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2458 on: May 29, 2016, 03:12:05 AM »
have a NJ license...already have far too many NY points pending...tonight i received a speeding ticket going 90 in 65 AND reckless driving ticket from state trooper in Howell who is the best person to talk to? thanks.
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2459 on: May 29, 2016, 03:18:08 AM »
Quite a friend:) He generally receives mail from the DMV at your address?
We live together, as I mentioned. Rent an apartment.