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This thread discusses speeding tickets and traffic tickets in the state of New York. For parking tickets go here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=15090.0 or here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=23665.msg1088489. For moving violations outside of New York, please start a new thread and add a link here.

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Please read this wiki first. I am not an attorney and this is not legal advice.

Q: Can I get a plea bargain in New York City?
A: No. Every single ticket goes to trial, guilty or not guilty, in New York City. (The 5 boroughs of NY, Kings, Queens, Bronx and Richmond.)

Q: How long does it take for points to fall off your New York State record/license/abstract?
A: For DMV persistent violation purposes 18 months from the date of offense regardless of the date of conviction. At 3 years after the date of conviction on the following January first the points are no longer visible on the driving record which insurance companies and traffic prosecutors look at. DMV always keeps a record of your conviction and if you get too many points over your lifetime you could get a "10 year" revocation, however those records are not visible to insurance companies.

Q: Does it pay to fight my NY ticket or should I just pay it?
A: In order to figure the true cost of a traffic ticket conviction (aside from figuring out the total fines and the effects on your record) you need to call up your insurance company and ask them 2 questions. 1. How much will my insurance go up over the next 4 years if I pay this ticket? 2. How much money in "good driver discounts" will I loss over the next 4 years and how much does this add up to?

The reason you need to ask these 2 questions separately is because the insurance companies "shield themselves" from the statutory requirement to not raise insurance rates for a first violation (or speeds up to 15 MPH) by granting "good driver discounts", and then taking away these good driver discounts when you get your first violation. Therefore the (technically) correct answer to the first question you ask them could be "your insurance will not be raised at all". Then when you ask them the second question the answer may be in the thousands of dollars over the next 4 years, depending on your insurance bracket.

Q: How can I find my New York ticket online? 
A: If it is New York City ticket you can find it at https://transact.dmv.ny.gov/pleadnpay if you received a ticket anywhere outside of NYC and anywhere upstate you must contact the individual Court by phone or mail. There is no way to find your ticket online. Google is not able to find most small Courts as it get confused with giving you the most popular courts and attorneys, therefore I suggest you look up your Court at at www.town-court.com.

Q: How can I get a copy of my NYS driving record/license/abstract?
A: You can buy it at the statutory minimum of $7 at https://my.dmv.ny.gov/crm

Q: Do NJ tickets show up on a regular non CDL NY license?
A: As long as you pay them, no they will not.

Q: Do NY tickets show up on NJ licenses?
A: Yes as a 2 point out of state conviction (most violations).

Q: Do NJ tickets show up on a NY license?
A: As long as you pay them, no. Exceptions 1. if you have a CDL the NJ conviction will record on your NY license. 2. DUI/DWI and criminal driving convictions from NJ do record on your NY license. 3. as stated above if you don't respond to the ticket the suspension will follow you to NY. In addition NJ issues warrants for failing to respond to traffic tickets. 4 If you are convicted of a high speed (90+ MPH, 100+ MPH) in NJ the Judge may suspend your NJ driving privileges. 

Q: Can I pay Court fines with a CC?
A: In NYC for moving violations you can use https://transact.dmv.ny.gov/pleadnpay. For NYC parking tickets you can use http://www.nyc.gov/html/dof/html/parking/parking.shtml. As far as "upstate" Courts go, most Courts will allow you to pay with visa or mastercard in person. Many Courts have a CC sheet which you can fill in and mail back, other Courts have a third party processor such as https://www.ncourt.com to accept cc payments. Call the Court to find out what options they have. No one (so far that I have seen) will take CCs over the phone.

Q: I received a camera ticket for a red light (3 points) or speeding (3-11 points) or a bus lane violation (2 points). Do traffic tickets issued from a camera add points to my license?
A: Camera Tickets never go on your license as they are issued against the car and not the driver. Therefor a camera ticket will not add points to your license or increase your insurance.

Q: If I push a ticket off for 18 months and then I am convicted, can I still be suspended by the DMV for having more than 11 points?
A: Pushing off a ticket will not help protect you from DMV actions. The reason is as follows: if you receive 2 tickets worth 6 points each on the same day, and you plead guilty to one of them on that same day and you push the second ticket off for 5 years, and then you plead guilty to that second ticket, the DMV computer will look at the 2 dates of violation and say "the motorist accumulated (more than) 11 points within an 18 month period" and issue a persistent violator suspension against you license.

Insurance companies work the other way around. They can only raise your premium after your date of conviction. Therefore in our example the insurance companies will increase your insurance after the first conviction appears on your record when they renew your policy (which will stay on your record for 3 years and then until the next January 1st) and then they will increase your rates again after the second ticket conviction shows up on your record when they renew your policy, (once again this second ticket will stay on the record for  3 years plus until the next January first. It follows that pleading/being found guilty in December saves 11 months of policy increase, and if there is a way to lock in a one year policy right before a conviction in December you can be looking at a car increase for only 2 years and 1 day, instead of 4 years minus one day.)

Travelers Insurance offers 1 year rates.
Geico is 6 months.

Traffic Ticket Lawyers:

State
New York Attorney Matisyahu Wolfberg http://www.speedingdefense.com/
New York Attorney Zev Goldstein www.zevgoldsteinlaw.com 845-356-7770
New York Attorney Benjamin Goldman https://www.benjamingoldmanlawoffice.com/ 212-203-3810
New Jersey and New York Attorney Adam H. Rosenblum www.ticketdefenselaw.com
New Jersey Attorney Leib Klein www.avvo.com/attorneys/08701-nj-leib-klein-1602182.html 732-987-7040

Great Upstate NY lawyer at very cheap prices. http://jaydrillings.net/

Not that many parking ticket lawyers!
Parking ticket Non Lawyer (NYC)
Cathy Mei She takes 50% to fight the parking or camera ticket
Office Number 212-349-4978
Email 329ticket@gmail.com
Fax 646-699-3630

Parking Expert non attorney (718) 384-5052

Non attorney runner http://www.myticketsnyc.com/

Non attorney runner http://www.wefighttickets.com/

10+ Counties in upstate NY have diversion programs, allowing you to dismiss the ticket for a fine and defensive driving class. Conditions and restrictions apply. Check the District Attorney's website for your county: Allegany, Broome, Cayuga, Chenango, Clinton, Franklin, Livingston, Orleans, Otsego, Tioga, and Wyoming.

This wiki is not legal advice, nor the advice of an attorney.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2480 on: June 22, 2016, 03:55:55 PM »
Friend of mine got a ticket in PA for going 87 in a 65, cop promised to write down that he was only going 70.

On the ticket it says actual speed 70 MPH, but in the comments on the bottom it says "87/65"


He has a NY license.


Did the cop lie about putting down 70? And should he just pay the $140 fine?


Thanks.
i think ny takes pa points , as far as the lie its his word vs. the cop who usually wins...
to be sure wait for the pro to respond... HIRSHTHG!

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2481 on: June 22, 2016, 06:29:10 PM »
Weird. It's like  a little note to self that he was really going 87 so don't let the guy plea down to failure to clean up dog.
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2482 on: June 22, 2016, 10:39:24 PM »
Friend of mine got a ticket in PA for going 87 in a 65, cop promised to write down that he was only going 70. On the ticket it says actual speed 70 MPH, but in the comments on the bottom it says "87/65".  He has a NY license. Did the cop lie about putting down 70? And should he just pay the $140 fine? Thanks.

The charge is whatever the officer wrote in the "charge" location. The comments are to make sure the motorist doesn't get a better deal and so his sergeant knows the officer wasn't wasting his time.

NY does not record simple traffic convictions from PA but is he ignores it NY will recognize the scofflaw suspension. Yep, pay the $140. 

Just want to give a shoutout to Hirshthg for his advice.

Got three tickets (speeding, following too closely, and merging out of HOV lane) and was able to plea them down to 2 jaywalking tickets and a non-moving violation. Thanks, Hirshthg!
You are very welcome AJK!

I got a ticket for a busted brake light. I got it fixed and sent in the letter from the mechanic with the plea of not guilty. Do I still need to go to court to fight it?
Some courts don't dismiss the "fit it tickets" upon receipt. In those courts the clerk simply does nothing when they receive the receipt in the mail. They will only look at the receipt at a hearing which you need to attend.

By "going light", you mean reducing it to a parking fine, or just less points? Trying to figure out if it's worth the hassle. The goal in this case would probably be to get it off of the insurance radar.
In NY generally both. The less the points generally the money will be less.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2483 on: June 24, 2016, 09:14:16 AM »
Got a ticket for "failing to signal when switching lanes"
 
Anyone know what my best bet is ? Is it possible to win such a ticket?

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2484 on: June 26, 2016, 12:35:21 AM »
Got a ticket for "failing to signal when switching lanes"
 
Anyone know what my best bet is ? Is it possible to win such a ticket?
Its 2 points. Depends on which court its filed in.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2485 on: June 26, 2016, 12:40:04 AM »
Got a ticket for "failing to signal when switching lanes"
 
Anyone know what my best bet is ? Is it possible to win such a ticket?
Got a receipt from mechanic that he repaired the light signal system, will that be sufficient to win it?

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2486 on: June 26, 2016, 01:44:20 AM »
Hitshthg
Got a ticket in Wyoming for doing 60 in a 45 zone. The fine is $110 and I have a NY license. Does a conviction affect my insurance at all (and so should consider hiring a lawyer to fight it)? Or should I just pay it and move on? Thanks

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2487 on: June 26, 2016, 04:18:32 AM »
I was quoted $700 to fight a ticket for leaving the scene of an accident. Sounds pretty high to me. Any experience here?
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2488 on: June 26, 2016, 08:00:58 AM »
have a NJ license...already have far too many NY points pending...tonight i received a speeding ticket going 90 in 65 AND reckless driving ticket from state trooper in Howell who is the best person to talk to? thanks.
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2489 on: June 26, 2016, 01:31:23 PM »
Reading the wiki, I don't see any advise at point reduction.

Can anyone advise if and what type of 5 hour ckass will help for Insurance rates ?
How early before renewal does one need to take the class ?
How many points does it lower it by ?
Any contacts phone numbers of classes in BP ?

Thanks in advance.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2490 on: June 27, 2016, 02:57:01 PM »
Reading the wiki, I don't see any advise at point reduction.

Can anyone advise if and what type of 5 hour ckass will help for Insurance rates ?
How early before renewal does one need to take the class ?
How many points does it lower it by ?
Any contacts phone numbers of classes in BP ?

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2491 on: June 28, 2016, 11:04:49 PM »
Got a receipt from mechanic that he repaired the light signal system, will that be sufficient to win it?
Depends on the procedure. If the officer testifies that he checked your blinker and it was working, the defense doesn't work. Otherwise you could successfully claim your bulb was simply out which is not a 2 point violation:)
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Got a ticket in Wyoming for doing 60 in a 45 zone. The fine is $110 and I have a NY license. Does a conviction affect my insurance at all (and so should consider hiring a lawyer to fight it)? Or should I just pay it and move on? Thanks
Its a 4 point speed and your insurance company can cancel your "good driver discounts" if you have any. They can raise your rates if you don't. Find someone to work out a plea deal with the Wyoming DA's office or go into court yourself for a reduction.

Reading the wiki, I don't see any advise at point reduction. Thanks in advance.
1. Can anyone advise if and what type of 5 hour class will help for Insurance rates ?
2. How early before renewal does one need to take the class ?
3. How many points does it lower it by ?
4. Any contacts phone numbers of classes in BP ?

1. By law all NY insurance companies need to reduce your rates by a flat 10% when you take an approved course. Any one of these and any other approved course will do: https://dmv.ny.gov/tickets/point-insurance-reduction-program
2. The class affects starting from the next renewal date and stays on your record for 4 years. Thereafter it expires. I would need to look into the exact start and end date criteria.
3. The "point reduction program" is a misleading name in my humble opinion. No points or convictions are actually reduced/removed. The only 2 things which the class does is give you a 10% discount and extend your point suspension limit from 11 to 14. Usually one is suspended when one received 11 points within 18 months. When one takes the course after receiving several points, those points can not longer contribute to 11, as one need to reach 14. You still can be suspended for 3 speeds, receive the DRAT or be suspended for receiving  a suspend-able offense.

I am not sure if point 3 is clear enough. Lets work this out together. Any other questions about what the course does or how it works?

4. You can take an online course in Boropark https://dmv.ny.gov/pirp/online or find a place in person.


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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2492 on: June 28, 2016, 11:16:19 PM »


Depends on the procedure. If the officer testifies that he checked your blinker and it was working, the defense doesn't work. Otherwise you could successfully claim your bulb was simply out which is not a 2 point violation:)

He didn't check the blinker, i also never told him it was broken,  I guess i can claim i realized after...

I got a receipt saying the signaling system was repaired is that good enough?
Thanks!

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2493 on: June 29, 2016, 06:26:20 PM »
Hirshthg, or anyone,

My Lawyer has told me that a defensive Driving course would reduce 4 Points. Is that so ?

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2494 on: June 29, 2016, 07:29:02 PM »
He didn't check the blinker, i also never told him it was broken,  I guess i can claim i realized after... I got a receipt saying the signaling system was repaired is that good enough? Thanks!

Its evidence which could back a claim that you could't signal.

Hirshthg, or anyone, my Lawyer has told me that a defensive Driving course would reduce 4 Points. Is that so ?
It extends your limit from 11 to 14. It doesn't technically "remove" the 4 points which is what the work "reduce" indicates.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2495 on: June 29, 2016, 09:07:32 PM »
I got a careless driving ticket in Wall, NJ that carries 2 points.

What should I plead if I want to change it to a no-point ticket?
I read online that it would be good to plead guilty to obstructing traffic.

Any help is appreciated, thanks!

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2496 on: June 29, 2016, 10:12:49 PM »
I got a careless driving ticket in Wall, NJ that carries 2 points.

What should I plead if I want to change it to a no-point ticket?
I read online that it would be good to plead guilty to obstructing traffic.

Any help is appreciated, thanks!
I'm no lawyer, but based on my limited experience I've had some tickets pled down to a obstructing passage of other vehicles (which I was told is basically a parking ticket).

I believe u plea not guilty and see what they offer you, or have an attorney do it for you..

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« Reply #2497 on: June 29, 2016, 10:28:28 PM »
Any recommendations for an attorney to handle a leaving the scene of an accident ticket?
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2498 on: June 30, 2016, 12:44:41 AM »
Any recommendations for an attorney to handle a leaving the scene of an accident ticket?
Don't you get a suspension right away for that ?

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« Reply #2499 on: June 30, 2016, 12:45:27 AM »
Don't you get a suspension right away for that ?
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