Moving Violation Tickets

[marktrump]

I got a careless driving ticket in Wall, NJ that carries 2 points.

What should I plead if I want to change it to a no-point ticket?
I read online that it would be good to plead guilty to obstructing traffic.

Any help is appreciated, thanks!

a friend got the same ticket in wall 2 years ago 2 attorneys told him to just pay the $85, this court is very tuff....

[yuneeq]

a friend got the same ticket in wall 2 years ago 2 attorneys told him to just pay the $85, this court is very tuff....

Last time I got a ticket in Wall 5 years ago, I was facing 6-7 points for speeding and careless and managed to whittle it down to 2 points and ~$200 just by talking to the prosecutor. I guess YMMV.

[Hirshthg]

I got a careless driving ticket in Wall, NJ that carries 2 points. What should I plead if I want to change it to a no-point ticket? I read online that it would be good to plead guilty to obstructing traffic. Any help is appreciated, thanks!

The local prosecutors generally have their favorite reductions. Just ask for a none moving violation and take whatever they give you.

Any recommendations for an attorney to handle a leaving the scene of an accident ticket?

1. What state?
2. Was there an injury involved?

Don't you get a suspension right away for that ?

If you are a CDL. I believe that federal guidelines require that all states suspend drivers convicted of leaving the scene of an accident. If you are not a CDL and not a probationary/junior/restricted license then its just a 3 point ticket in NY. If someone was injured its a misdemeanor and if someone dies its a felony in New York.

[good sam]

1. What state?
2. Was there an injury involved?

NJ. No injury.

[Hirshthg]

NJ. No injury.

Try Rosenblum in the wiki

[good sam]

Try Rosenblum in the wiki

In your experience, should a leaving the scene of an accident violation garner a higher legal fee than a speeding ticket?

[The Devil]

Depends on the procedure. If the officer testifies that he checked your blinker and it was working, the defense doesn't work. Otherwise you could successfully claim your bulb was simply out which is not a 2 point violation:)Its a 4 point speed and your insurance company can cancel your "good driver discounts" if you have any. They can raise your rates if you don't. Find someone to work out a plea deal with the Wyoming DA's office or go into court yourself for a reduction.
 
1. By law all NY insurance companies need to reduce your rates by a flat 10% when you take an approved course. Any one of these and any other approved course will do: https://dmv.ny.gov/tickets/point-insurance-reduction-program
2. The class affects starting from the next renewal date and stays on your record for 4 years. Thereafter it expires. I would need to look into the exact start and end date criteria.
3. The "point reduction program" is a misleading name in my humble opinion. No points or convictions are actually reduced/removed. The only 2 things which the class does is give you a 10% discount and extend your point suspension limit from 11 to 14. Usually one is suspended when one received 11 points within 18 months. When one takes the course after receiving several points, those points can not longer contribute to 11, as one need to reach 14. You still can be suspended for 3 speeds, receive the DRAT or be suspended for receiving  a suspend-able offense.

I am not sure if point 3 is clear enough. Lets work this out together. Any other questions about what the course does or how it works?

4. You can take an online course in Boropark https://dmv.ny.gov/pirp/online or find a place in person.

Thanks. Does the fact that Wyoming doesn't have a points system (or so I hear) play any role? Or does that not make any difference?
Also do you have any idea about how much 4 points from out of state affects insurance? I know you can't answer without knowing my info but do you know an average or range?

Thanks a lot

[MeirS]

Thanks. Does the fact that Wyoming doesn't have a points system (or so I hear) play any role? Or does that not make any difference?
Also do you have any idea about how much 4 points from out of state affects insurance? I know you can't answer without knowing my info but do you know an average or range?

Thanks a lot

I see this as a common misconception.

Points don't transfer, violations do.

I have a license from a state that doesn't have a point system.

If I make an illegal turn in State A where it might get me 2 points, they will just tell the State B who issued my license that I committed that violation and State B can penalise me as they see fit. If I go 88 in a 65 zone, the state where I am being held accountable will transfer the violation and the State which issued my license will issue points or other penalties as they see fit.

I believe NJ gives 2 points for any out of state moving violation.

For more info Google "Drivers License Compact"

Hirshtg, please correct me if I'm wrong.

[hocker]

Looking for an inexpensive and good lawyer to handle two tickets for me in NYC. I really need to get these tickets off.

I used Terry Kalker in the past but she didn't win and she charged nicely, any other suggestions?

[The Devil]

I see this as a common misconception.

Points don't transfer, violations do.

I have a license from a state that doesn't have a point system.

If I make an illegal turn in State A where it might get me 2 points, they will just tell the State B who issued my license that I committed that violation and State B can penalise me as they see fit. If I go 88 in a 65 zone, the state where I am being held accountable will transfer the violation and the State which issued my license will issue points or other penalties as they see fit.

I believe NJ gives 2 points for any out of state moving violation.

For more info Google "Drivers License Compact"

Hirshtg, please correct me if I'm wrong.

Thanks. So basically it's almost always worth fighting an out of state moving violation, right?

[Hirshthg]

In your experience, should a leaving the scene of an accident violation garner a higher legal fee than a speeding ticket?

Depends on the court and the amount of time required to deal with the violation. Try price shopping.

Thanks. Does the fact that Wyoming doesn't have a points system (or so I hear) play any role? Or does that not make any difference?
Also do you have any idea about how much 4 points from out of state affects insurance?

I see this as a common misconception.

Points don't transfer, violations do.

I have a license from a state that doesn't have a point system. If I make an illegal turn in State A where it might get me 2 points, they will just tell the State B who issued my license that I committed that violation and State B can penalize me as they see fit. If I go 88 in a 65 zone, the state where I am being held accountable will transfer the violation and the State which issued my license will issue points or other penalties as they see fit.

I believe NJ gives 2 points for any out of state moving violation. For more info Google "Drivers License Compact"

Hirshtg, please correct me if I'm wrong.

MeirS is correct. Each state has its own point system and the violation are reported. However each state also has its own violations. Although most violations are identical not all violations in state A will be recognized in state B.

For instance Florida didn't have a cell phone violation for a while. When NY cell phone convictions were reported to Florida they were recorded as a 3 point careless driving convictions. Therefore we need to know where your license is from and if that state treats speeding tickets from Wyoming as speeding tickets.

Another factor is which conviction need to be reported. Some traffic convictions like obstructing traffic in an intersection (2 points in NY) or improper use of 4 way flashers (2 points in NY) do not need to be reported according to the "Drivers License Compact."

For insurance purposes, insurance companies check the driving record of the driver's state. Therefore when I  -a NY licensed driver- get a 100 MPH speeding conviction in PA, my insurance company won't know about it unless that conviction appears on my NY driving record. Because NY does not recognize out of state driving convictions in the DMV database, my insurance co. will never find out about it. Hence my rates do not go up:)

However if I got a speeding ticket in which that high speed is a misdemeanor (Virginia?) that conviction would appear on my criminal record. Another place which the insurance co. can check.

Thanks. So basically it's almost always worth fighting an out of state moving violation, right?

Not at all. It depends on your state's rules and the state you are convicted in. Always ask an attorney from both states. (Call it a consultation for which you want to know the worst possible outcome. Call several attorneys to make sure your are getting good intel. )

Looking for an inexpensive and good lawyer to handle two tickets for me in NYC. I really need to get these tickets off. I used Terry Kalker in the past but she didn't win and she charged nicely, any other suggestions?

All the locals are more or less the same. They go to trial and have the same bag of tricks. Find an attorney in that local TVB office (there are 9 of them.) No matter how often they lose, any attorney would have lost:(

[ckmk47]

A speeding ticket in Maine. NY license.  I paid it. 
It sounds like I'll get 2 points, but the insurance co won't know.
Is that correct?

[sammy n]

A speeding ticket in Maine. NY license.  I paid it. 
It sounds like I'll get 2 points, but the insurance co won't know.
Is that correct?

I haven't been following this thread, but I thought NY license doesn't get any points from any other state? Is that wrong?

[ckmk47]

I haven't been following this thread, but I thought NY license doesn't get any points from any other state? Is that wrong?

read the last few pages of this thread.

[Dr Moose]

According to this new information that's being said, why according to the WIKI, if I have a NY license and received a moving violation in NJ, can I just pay the ticket without it affecting my NY driving record?

[Yehuda25]

According to this new information that's being said, why according to the WIKI, if I have a NY license and received a moving violation in NJ, can I just pay the ticket without it affecting my NY driving record?

correct

[Yehuda25]

Thanks @Hirshthg for taking the time to explain that.

[Dr Moose]

correct

My question is why?

Wouldn't NJ tell NY that I was speeding, going 20 Mph over speed limit?

[dsw193]

My question is why?

Wouldn't NJ tell NY that I was speeding, going 20 Mph over speed limit?

NY chooses not to care.

The NYSDMV does not record out-of-state violations committed by NYS drivers in other jurisdictions. The exceptions are alcohol-related violations, drug-related violations, and moving violations committed in Quebec or Ontario

[ckmk47]

NY chooses not to care.

Thanks.  I thought it depended on the state of the offense.