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This thread discusses speeding tickets and traffic tickets in the state of New York. For parking tickets go here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=15090.0 or here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=23665.msg1088489. For moving violations outside of New York, please start a new thread and add a link here.

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Please read this wiki first. I am not an attorney and this is not legal advice.

Q: Can I get a plea bargain in New York City?
A: No. Every single ticket goes to trial, guilty or not guilty, in New York City. (The 5 boroughs of NY, Kings, Queens, Bronx and Richmond.)

Q: How long does it take for points to fall off your New York State record/license/abstract?
A: For DMV persistent violation purposes 18 months from the date of offense regardless of the date of conviction. At 3 years after the date of conviction on the following January first the points are no longer visible on the driving record which insurance companies and traffic prosecutors look at. DMV always keeps a record of your conviction and if you get too many points over your lifetime you could get a "10 year" revocation, however those records are not visible to insurance companies.

Q: Does it pay to fight my NY ticket or should I just pay it?
A: In order to figure the true cost of a traffic ticket conviction (aside from figuring out the total fines and the effects on your record) you need to call up your insurance company and ask them 2 questions. 1. How much will my insurance go up over the next 4 years if I pay this ticket? 2. How much money in "good driver discounts" will I loss over the next 4 years and how much does this add up to?

The reason you need to ask these 2 questions separately is because the insurance companies "shield themselves" from the statutory requirement to not raise insurance rates for a first violation (or speeds up to 15 MPH) by granting "good driver discounts", and then taking away these good driver discounts when you get your first violation. Therefore the (technically) correct answer to the first question you ask them could be "your insurance will not be raised at all". Then when you ask them the second question the answer may be in the thousands of dollars over the next 4 years, depending on your insurance bracket.

Q: How can I find my New York ticket online? 
A: If it is New York City ticket you can find it at https://transact.dmv.ny.gov/pleadnpay if you received a ticket anywhere outside of NYC and anywhere upstate you must contact the individual Court by phone or mail. There is no way to find your ticket online. Google is not able to find most small Courts as it get confused with giving you the most popular courts and attorneys, therefore I suggest you look up your Court at at www.town-court.com.

Q: How can I get a copy of my NYS driving record/license/abstract?
A: You can buy it at the statutory minimum of $7 at https://my.dmv.ny.gov/crm

Q: Do NJ tickets show up on a regular non CDL NY license?
A: As long as you pay them, no they will not.

Q: Do NY tickets show up on NJ licenses?
A: Yes as a 2 point out of state conviction (most violations).

Q: Do NJ tickets show up on a NY license?
A: As long as you pay them, no. Exceptions 1. if you have a CDL the NJ conviction will record on your NY license. 2. DUI/DWI and criminal driving convictions from NJ do record on your NY license. 3. as stated above if you don't respond to the ticket the suspension will follow you to NY. In addition NJ issues warrants for failing to respond to traffic tickets. 4 If you are convicted of a high speed (90+ MPH, 100+ MPH) in NJ the Judge may suspend your NJ driving privileges. 

Q: Can I pay Court fines with a CC?
A: In NYC for moving violations you can use https://transact.dmv.ny.gov/pleadnpay. For NYC parking tickets you can use http://www.nyc.gov/html/dof/html/parking/parking.shtml. As far as "upstate" Courts go, most Courts will allow you to pay with visa or mastercard in person. Many Courts have a CC sheet which you can fill in and mail back, other Courts have a third party processor such as https://www.ncourt.com to accept cc payments. Call the Court to find out what options they have. No one (so far that I have seen) will take CCs over the phone.

Q: I received a camera ticket for a red light (3 points) or speeding (3-11 points) or a bus lane violation (2 points). Do traffic tickets issued from a camera add points to my license?
A: Camera Tickets never go on your license as they are issued against the car and not the driver. Therefor a camera ticket will not add points to your license or increase your insurance.

Q: If I push a ticket off for 18 months and then I am convicted, can I still be suspended by the DMV for having more than 11 points?
A: Pushing off a ticket will not help protect you from DMV actions. The reason is as follows: if you receive 2 tickets worth 6 points each on the same day, and you plead guilty to one of them on that same day and you push the second ticket off for 5 years, and then you plead guilty to that second ticket, the DMV computer will look at the 2 dates of violation and say "the motorist accumulated (more than) 11 points within an 18 month period" and issue a persistent violator suspension against you license.

Insurance companies work the other way around. They can only raise your premium after your date of conviction. Therefore in our example the insurance companies will increase your insurance after the first conviction appears on your record when they renew your policy (which will stay on your record for 3 years and then until the next January 1st) and then they will increase your rates again after the second ticket conviction shows up on your record when they renew your policy, (once again this second ticket will stay on the record for  3 years plus until the next January first. It follows that pleading/being found guilty in December saves 11 months of policy increase, and if there is a way to lock in a one year policy right before a conviction in December you can be looking at a car increase for only 2 years and 1 day, instead of 4 years minus one day.)

Travelers Insurance offers 1 year rates.
Geico is 6 months.

Traffic Ticket Lawyers:

State
New York Attorney Matisyahu Wolfberg http://www.speedingdefense.com/
New York Attorney Zev Goldstein www.zevgoldsteinlaw.com 845-356-7770
New York Attorney Benjamin Goldman https://www.benjamingoldmanlawoffice.com/ 212-203-3810
New Jersey and New York Attorney Adam H. Rosenblum www.ticketdefenselaw.com
New Jersey Attorney Leib Klein www.avvo.com/attorneys/08701-nj-leib-klein-1602182.html 732-987-7040

Great Upstate NY lawyer at very cheap prices. http://jaydrillings.net/

Not that many parking ticket lawyers!
Parking ticket Non Lawyer (NYC)
Cathy Mei She takes 50% to fight the parking or camera ticket
Office Number 212-349-4978
Email 329ticket@gmail.com
Fax 646-699-3630

Parking Expert non attorney (718) 384-5052

Non attorney runner http://www.myticketsnyc.com/

Non attorney runner http://www.wefighttickets.com/

10+ Counties in upstate NY have diversion programs, allowing you to dismiss the ticket for a fine and defensive driving class. Conditions and restrictions apply. Check the District Attorney's website for your county: Allegany, Broome, Cayuga, Chenango, Clinton, Franklin, Livingston, Orleans, Otsego, Tioga, and Wyoming.

This wiki is not legal advice, nor the advice of an attorney.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2540 on: July 14, 2016, 11:22:12 PM »
wouldve pulled off first exit and parked car. but yea you are right not worth risk just speaking hypothetically.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2541 on: July 15, 2016, 01:41:09 AM »
wouldve pulled off first exit and parked car. but yea you are right not worth risk just speaking hypothetically.
My thoughts exactly...
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2542 on: July 15, 2016, 03:19:20 PM »
does defensive driving course that takes off 4 points in ny help for insurance or only for license purposes

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2543 on: July 16, 2016, 10:27:43 PM »
does defensive driving course that takes off 4 points in ny help for insurance or only for license purposes
4 points are 'subtracted' for the purposes of calculating a suspension if you have 11 or more points.
The tickets/points do not physically come off your driving record.
 The course reduces the base rate of your auto and motorcycle insurance premiums 10% each year for three years.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2544 on: July 17, 2016, 12:54:54 AM »
just got a cell phone talking ticket by the verrazzano MTA toll booth guy. Does that have 5 point like a regular cop?? Can a defensive driving course take it off? Should I hire attorney? Any other course of action? First big ticket for me :(
1. He gave you a ticket while you were practically standing still:/
2. If the code is 1225-c2a or 1225-d then it should be a regular 5 point ticket. Which county is it filed in?
3. The DDC does not actually take 4 points off. It extends your limit from 11 to 14. As DSW193 explains.
4. Fighting the ticket means going to trial and rolling the dice. It may still be worth the risk.

could be. but he was not uniformed.
The transit officers have limited jurisdiction with similar powers as police officers over their brides and tunnels.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2545 on: July 25, 2016, 03:04:19 PM »
My mother got 2 tickets 1 for running a red-VTL 1111D1 and 1 for blocking the intersection-VTL 1175
I asked a law firm about fighting these and they said its 3 points for the red and 2 pints for blocking
afterwards I looked it up and I kept seeing that VTL 1175 is no points
this is the email they sent me back:
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The police have the authority to write this particular violation of VTL 1175 in one of 3 different ways;

criminal offense - which would be a pink ticket and which carries 2 points
TVB ticket - which would be a yellow ticket and which carries 2 points
NYC parking ticket - which would be a white ticket and carries no points.

In your mother's case, this is a 2 point violation.

The fines depend on your record and is set by the judge at the time of conviction.

Our fee is $390 is for each ticket as each ticket must be fought separately.

Although our general track is excellent, no attorney can guarantee results; each situation is totally different.
anyone know if this is true regarding the different types of this violation?
also is $390 a reasonable amount to pay?

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2546 on: July 25, 2016, 06:46:53 PM »
My mother got 2 tickets 1 for running a red-VTL 1111D1 and 1 for blocking the intersection-VTL 1175
I asked a law firm about fighting these and they said its 3 points for the red and 2 pints for blocking
afterwards I looked it up and I kept seeing that VTL 1175 is no points
this is the email they sent me back:anyone know if this is true regarding the different types of this violation?
also is $390 a reasonable amount to pay?
Was this in the city or out of the city?

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2547 on: July 25, 2016, 07:05:05 PM »
Was this in the city or out of the city?
in the city (brooklyn)

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2548 on: July 26, 2016, 12:55:04 AM »
I got collection letters for $300 in nyc parking tickets

Does anyone know if it goes on social and on the credit report ?

Thats horrible, why do they send it to collections

But i am want to know if it goes on social

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2549 on: July 28, 2016, 10:39:37 PM »
My mother got 2 tickets 1 for running a red-VTL 1111D1 and 1 for blocking the intersection-VTL 1175
I asked a law firm about fighting these and they said its 3 points for the red and 2 pints for blocking
afterwards I looked it up and I kept seeing that VTL 1175 is no points
this is the email they sent me back:anyone know if this is true regarding the different types of this violation?
also is $390 a reasonable amount to pay?
$400 is a regular amount. Did she get the two tickets at different times or at the same time? $800 for 2 regular tickets is quite high.

VTL 1175 is 2 points across NYS. They were both yellow for TVB: 3 letters and 7 digits in the ticket number. Pink is criminal court. White is parking.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2550 on: July 29, 2016, 12:15:51 AM »
$400 is a regular amount. Did she get the two tickets at different times or at the same time? $800 for 2 regular tickets is quite high.

VTL 1175 is 2 points across NYS. They were both yellow for TVB: 3 letters and 7 digits in the ticket number. Pink is criminal court. White is parking.
thanks for the confirmation on the points

yeah they were both given at the same time

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2551 on: July 29, 2016, 08:32:06 AM »
anyone have a recommendation on who to use both
www.ticketdefenselaw.com
and
ZevGoldsteinLaw.com
said it would be $400 total for both tickets

anyone with personal experience with them?
should I try someone else?

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2552 on: July 29, 2016, 09:09:03 AM »
anyone have a recommendation on who to use both
www.ticketdefenselaw.com
and
ZevGoldsteinLaw.com
said it would be $400 total for both tickets

anyone with personal experience with them?
should I try someone else?
I have heard very good things about Matis Wolf (or Wolfberg) from what I hear he's a real Mentsch as well.

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Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2553 on: July 29, 2016, 09:11:42 AM »
I have heard very good things about Matis Wolf (or Wolfberg) from what I hear he's a real Mentsch as well.

845 362 3234
I've used him. He's ok. (Not gonna say he got my ticket off but he helped out) and his name is Wolfberg.

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« Reply #2554 on: July 29, 2016, 09:13:27 AM »
I've used him. He's ok. (Not gonna say he got my ticket off but he helped out) and his name is Wolfberg.
Oh. I got his name from someone who had a success story with him.

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« Reply #2555 on: July 29, 2016, 09:15:04 AM »
Oh. I got his name from someone who had a success story with him.
By me it was a 6 point ticket and he changed me $400 and said he's usually pretty good at getting it down to a parking ticket and in the end he only got off 2 points leaving me with the same ticket and 4 points plus the $400 paid him.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2556 on: July 29, 2016, 10:11:17 AM »
anyone have a recommendation on who to use both
www.ticketdefenselaw.com
and
ZevGoldsteinLaw.com
said it would be $400 total for both tickets

anyone with personal experience with them?
should I try someone else?
I once used ZevGoldsteinLaw and although the outcome was disappointing (aren't all tickets disappointing?) For a 6 point ticket with$6-700 in fines and fees, he charged me around $400 and got it down to a non moving violation (no points) for $325. So I ended up paying around the same money and avoided all 6 points.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2557 on: July 31, 2016, 03:37:21 AM »
Zev Goldstein law has helped many posters on this forum!

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2558 on: July 31, 2016, 02:36:51 PM »
Zev Goldstein law has helped many posters on this forum!
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2559 on: July 31, 2016, 02:45:13 PM »
All the locals are more or less the same. They go to trial and have the same bag of tricks. Find an attorney in that local TVB office (there are 9 of them.) No matter how often they lose, any attorney would have lost:(
So I guess it really boils down to who is cheapest.