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This thread discusses speeding tickets and traffic tickets in the state of New York. For parking tickets go here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=15090.0 or here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=23665.msg1088489. For moving violations outside of New York, please start a new thread and add a link here.

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Please read this wiki first. I am not an attorney and this is not legal advice.

Q: Can I get a plea bargain in New York City?
A: No. Every single ticket goes to trial, guilty or not guilty, in New York City. (The 5 boroughs of NY, Kings, Queens, Bronx and Richmond.)

Q: How long does it take for points to fall off your New York State record/license/abstract?
A: For DMV persistent violation purposes 18 months from the date of offense regardless of the date of conviction. At 3 years after the date of conviction on the following January first the points are no longer visible on the driving record which insurance companies and traffic prosecutors look at. DMV always keeps a record of your conviction and if you get too many points over your lifetime you could get a "10 year" revocation, however those records are not visible to insurance companies.

Q: Does it pay to fight my NY ticket or should I just pay it?
A: In order to figure the true cost of a traffic ticket conviction (aside from figuring out the total fines and the effects on your record) you need to call up your insurance company and ask them 2 questions. 1. How much will my insurance go up over the next 4 years if I pay this ticket? 2. How much money in "good driver discounts" will I loss over the next 4 years and how much does this add up to?

The reason you need to ask these 2 questions separately is because the insurance companies "shield themselves" from the statutory requirement to not raise insurance rates for a first violation (or speeds up to 15 MPH) by granting "good driver discounts", and then taking away these good driver discounts when you get your first violation. Therefore the (technically) correct answer to the first question you ask them could be "your insurance will not be raised at all". Then when you ask them the second question the answer may be in the thousands of dollars over the next 4 years, depending on your insurance bracket.

Q: How can I find my New York ticket online? 
A: If it is New York City ticket you can find it at https://transact.dmv.ny.gov/pleadnpay if you received a ticket anywhere outside of NYC and anywhere upstate you must contact the individual Court by phone or mail. There is no way to find your ticket online. Google is not able to find most small Courts as it get confused with giving you the most popular courts and attorneys, therefore I suggest you look up your Court at at www.town-court.com.

Q: How can I get a copy of my NYS driving record/license/abstract?
A: You can buy it at the statutory minimum of $7 at https://my.dmv.ny.gov/crm

Q: Do NJ tickets show up on a regular non CDL NY license?
A: As long as you pay them, no they will not.

Q: Do NY tickets show up on NJ licenses?
A: Yes as a 2 point out of state conviction (most violations).

Q: Do NJ tickets show up on a NY license?
A: As long as you pay them, no. Exceptions 1. if you have a CDL the NJ conviction will record on your NY license. 2. DUI/DWI and criminal driving convictions from NJ do record on your NY license. 3. as stated above if you don't respond to the ticket the suspension will follow you to NY. In addition NJ issues warrants for failing to respond to traffic tickets. 4 If you are convicted of a high speed (90+ MPH, 100+ MPH) in NJ the Judge may suspend your NJ driving privileges. 

Q: Can I pay Court fines with a CC?
A: In NYC for moving violations you can use https://transact.dmv.ny.gov/pleadnpay. For NYC parking tickets you can use http://www.nyc.gov/html/dof/html/parking/parking.shtml. As far as "upstate" Courts go, most Courts will allow you to pay with visa or mastercard in person. Many Courts have a CC sheet which you can fill in and mail back, other Courts have a third party processor such as https://www.ncourt.com to accept cc payments. Call the Court to find out what options they have. No one (so far that I have seen) will take CCs over the phone.

Q: I received a camera ticket for a red light (3 points) or speeding (3-11 points) or a bus lane violation (2 points). Do traffic tickets issued from a camera add points to my license?
A: Camera Tickets never go on your license as they are issued against the car and not the driver. Therefor a camera ticket will not add points to your license or increase your insurance.

Q: If I push a ticket off for 18 months and then I am convicted, can I still be suspended by the DMV for having more than 11 points?
A: Pushing off a ticket will not help protect you from DMV actions. The reason is as follows: if you receive 2 tickets worth 6 points each on the same day, and you plead guilty to one of them on that same day and you push the second ticket off for 5 years, and then you plead guilty to that second ticket, the DMV computer will look at the 2 dates of violation and say "the motorist accumulated (more than) 11 points within an 18 month period" and issue a persistent violator suspension against you license.

Insurance companies work the other way around. They can only raise your premium after your date of conviction. Therefore in our example the insurance companies will increase your insurance after the first conviction appears on your record when they renew your policy (which will stay on your record for 3 years and then until the next January 1st) and then they will increase your rates again after the second ticket conviction shows up on your record when they renew your policy, (once again this second ticket will stay on the record for  3 years plus until the next January first. It follows that pleading/being found guilty in December saves 11 months of policy increase, and if there is a way to lock in a one year policy right before a conviction in December you can be looking at a car increase for only 2 years and 1 day, instead of 4 years minus one day.)

Travelers Insurance offers 1 year rates.
Geico is 6 months.

Traffic Ticket Lawyers:

State
New York Attorney Matisyahu Wolfberg http://www.speedingdefense.com/
New York Attorney Zev Goldstein www.zevgoldsteinlaw.com 845-356-7770
New York Attorney Benjamin Goldman https://www.benjamingoldmanlawoffice.com/ 212-203-3810
New Jersey and New York Attorney Adam H. Rosenblum www.ticketdefenselaw.com
New Jersey Attorney Leib Klein www.avvo.com/attorneys/08701-nj-leib-klein-1602182.html 732-987-7040

Great Upstate NY lawyer at very cheap prices. http://jaydrillings.net/

Not that many parking ticket lawyers!
Parking ticket Non Lawyer (NYC)
Cathy Mei She takes 50% to fight the parking or camera ticket
Office Number 212-349-4978
Email 329ticket@gmail.com
Fax 646-699-3630

Parking Expert non attorney (718) 384-5052

Non attorney runner http://www.myticketsnyc.com/

Non attorney runner http://www.wefighttickets.com/

10+ Counties in upstate NY have diversion programs, allowing you to dismiss the ticket for a fine and defensive driving class. Conditions and restrictions apply. Check the District Attorney's website for your county: Allegany, Broome, Cayuga, Chenango, Clinton, Franklin, Livingston, Orleans, Otsego, Tioga, and Wyoming.

This wiki is not legal advice, nor the advice of an attorney.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2680 on: December 01, 2016, 07:50:02 PM »
Who cares what it says on a police report?
The insurance companies usually do

Not to my knowledge. They say so, but they raise your rates regardless of who is at fault. Do you know for a fact otherwise?

I believe that at fault accidents show up on non CDL MVR'S.
Both at fault and not at fault show up on MVR's in NY.

I just took the online NYS Defensive Driver Course and had the following question.

If I wasn't convicted yet and don't have any points yet, will the course remove the points once I'm convicted? The course was taken after the violation date but before the conviction date.
Yes, as long as you take the course within 18 months of the date of violation.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2681 on: December 01, 2016, 07:56:56 PM »


Not to my knowledge. They say so, but they raise your rates regardless of who is at fault. Do you know for a fact otherwise?
Obviously DROPR, but when dealing with insurance quotes there are 2 reasons why an accident hurts u, 1: doesn't make a difference fault or not, u will lose your ”5 year safe driver" discount. 2: if you were at fault your premiums will be higher. Obv the company u billed for the crash will have higher premiums than other places, because they try to recoup their losses

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2682 on: December 01, 2016, 07:59:40 PM »
Obviously DROPR, but when dealing with insurance quotes there are 2 reasons why an accident hurts u, 1: doesn't make a difference fault or not, u will lose your ”5 year safe driver" discount. 2: if you were at fault your premiums will be higher. Obv the company u billed for the crash will have higher premiums than other places, because they try to recoup their losses
Not "obvious" to me. Please find a source to this rumor.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2683 on: December 01, 2016, 08:01:45 PM »
Not "obvious" to me. Please find a source to this rumor.


Obviously DROPR
Obviously don't rely on phone reps in long hand for u. This is what the rep told me...yes it does need sources because phone reps aren't always reliable

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2684 on: December 01, 2016, 09:08:22 PM »
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I just took the online NYS Defensive Driver Course and had the following question.

If I wasn't convicted yet and don't have any points yet, will the course remove the points once I'm convicted? The course was taken after the violation date but before the conviction date.
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Yes, as long as you take the course within 18 months of the date of violation.



I thought the points don't come off, it just extends the suspension from 11 to 14

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2685 on: December 05, 2016, 10:23:50 PM »
Posting for a friend.

Received on GSP north(Chestnut Ridge) by NY state trooper for going 79 in 65 zone.

Do they plea?
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2686 on: December 06, 2016, 09:28:12 PM »
Posting for a friend.

Received on GSP north(Chestnut Ridge) by NY state trooper for going 79 in 65 zone.

Do they plea?
They are reasonable. He can probably get a parking ticket himself if he goes down.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2687 on: December 06, 2016, 09:31:47 PM »
I thought the points don't come off, it just extends the suspension from 11 to 14

"points coming off" is the way the DMV words it. Points never actually come off, except for the limited purpose of extending one type of suspension limit.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2688 on: December 15, 2016, 01:08:05 PM »
Received a seat belt ticket when I pissed off a cop by beeping my horn on him.. Just pay it or worth fighting?
You can say what you think when you think what you say.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2689 on: December 16, 2016, 02:21:51 AM »
Received a seat belt ticket when I pissed off a cop by beeping my horn on him.. Just pay it or worth fighting?
It's a no point ticket

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2690 on: December 16, 2016, 02:53:25 PM »
Received a seat belt ticket when I pissed off a cop by beeping my horn on him.. Just pay it or worth fighting?
That reminds me of a time when I was going down a two way street and the car from the opposite direction was driving without his head lights so a block away I turned my car on an angle a bit and flashing up that car with my brights, and to my surprise I see blue lettering on the plates (meaning it was a regular cop car!) wow did that cop feel stupid as he couldn't do anything to me.(he just drove by with his jaw wide open...)
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2691 on: December 18, 2016, 02:24:21 PM »
Received a ticket for not properly securing a child with seatbelt in fort Lee nj right before the Washington bridge
It says on the ticket its a non payable offense does that mean I must appear in court? Or is there any way around?
The fine I believe is minor and with no points but to appear in court means waisting a half a day

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2692 on: December 18, 2016, 02:48:13 PM »
Received a speeding ticket going off Throgsneck bridge 73mph in 45mph first time ever getting moving violation what should I do?
If anyone has any advice on anything pls PM me asap
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2693 on: December 19, 2016, 01:23:15 PM »
Received a seat belt ticket in Brooklyn. I believe it's a non point ticket. I'm leaning towards just to pay the summons and move on. Will my insurance company see the summons? Will my rate be affected?

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2694 on: December 21, 2016, 10:54:44 AM »
Just realized I had a hearing scheduled today that I missed for a red light ticket from almost a year ago, is there anything I can do now?

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2695 on: December 21, 2016, 11:05:47 AM »
Just got a cell phone ticket on Brooklyn- checked online and its five points- how can I get around the 5 points? anyway to fight this? does it make a diff if its my first ticket ever?  i would really appreciate if anyone can PM me with advise.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2696 on: December 21, 2016, 11:52:45 AM »
Just realized I had a hearing scheduled today that I missed for a red light ticket from almost a year ago, is there anything I can do now?
Yes. You can vacate the judgement, I've done it in the past.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2697 on: December 30, 2016, 12:27:38 PM »
I got a moving violation in brooklyn 2 years ago and tried postponing it for the third time, I went to the staten island TVB to try to change it but they said i need to do it at brooklyn because that's  where the hearing is.
Anyone know if this is correct?
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2698 on: January 03, 2017, 02:26:46 PM »
got a cellphone ticket in monsey NY (59) ramapo court
sent the letter today pleading not-guilty
the cop wrote on the ticket that i admitted by saying "yes, i was on my cellphone"  when he asked if i know why he pulled me over i said "cellphone?" (not sure if it matters)
clean license(no tickets)
what am i looking at?
 
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2699 on: January 05, 2017, 08:48:30 PM »
just used zev goldstein to fight a red light ticket. (not sure what lawyer actually showed up and if she directly works for him)
found not guilty on some technicality. judge decides to give me some mussar anyway. lawyer basically told him to shut up