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This thread discusses speeding tickets and traffic tickets in the state of New York. For parking tickets go here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=15090.0 or here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=23665.msg1088489. For moving violations outside of New York, please start a new thread and add a link here.

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Please read this wiki first. I am not an attorney and this is not legal advice.

Q: Can I get a plea bargain in New York City?
A: No. Every single ticket goes to trial, guilty or not guilty, in New York City. (The 5 boroughs of NY, Kings, Queens, Bronx and Richmond.)

Q: How long does it take for points to fall off your New York State record/license/abstract?
A: For DMV persistent violation purposes 18 months from the date of offense regardless of the date of conviction. At 3 years after the date of conviction on the following January first the points are no longer visible on the driving record which insurance companies and traffic prosecutors look at. DMV always keeps a record of your conviction and if you get too many points over your lifetime you could get a "10 year" revocation, however those records are not visible to insurance companies.

Q: Does it pay to fight my NY ticket or should I just pay it?
A: In order to figure the true cost of a traffic ticket conviction (aside from figuring out the total fines and the effects on your record) you need to call up your insurance company and ask them 2 questions. 1. How much will my insurance go up over the next 4 years if I pay this ticket? 2. How much money in "good driver discounts" will I loss over the next 4 years and how much does this add up to?

The reason you need to ask these 2 questions separately is because the insurance companies "shield themselves" from the statutory requirement to not raise insurance rates for a first violation (or speeds up to 15 MPH) by granting "good driver discounts", and then taking away these good driver discounts when you get your first violation. Therefore the (technically) correct answer to the first question you ask them could be "your insurance will not be raised at all". Then when you ask them the second question the answer may be in the thousands of dollars over the next 4 years, depending on your insurance bracket.

Q: How can I find my New York ticket online? 
A: If it is New York City ticket you can find it at https://transact.dmv.ny.gov/pleadnpay if you received a ticket anywhere outside of NYC and anywhere upstate you must contact the individual Court by phone or mail. There is no way to find your ticket online. Google is not able to find most small Courts as it get confused with giving you the most popular courts and attorneys, therefore I suggest you look up your Court at at www.town-court.com.

Q: How can I get a copy of my NYS driving record/license/abstract?
A: You can buy it at the statutory minimum of $7 at https://my.dmv.ny.gov/crm

Q: Do NJ tickets show up on a regular non CDL NY license?
A: As long as you pay them, no they will not.

Q: Do NY tickets show up on NJ licenses?
A: Yes as a 2 point out of state conviction (most violations).

Q: Do NJ tickets show up on a NY license?
A: As long as you pay them, no. Exceptions 1. if you have a CDL the NJ conviction will record on your NY license. 2. DUI/DWI and criminal driving convictions from NJ do record on your NY license. 3. as stated above if you don't respond to the ticket the suspension will follow you to NY. In addition NJ issues warrants for failing to respond to traffic tickets. 4 If you are convicted of a high speed (90+ MPH, 100+ MPH) in NJ the Judge may suspend your NJ driving privileges. 

Q: Can I pay Court fines with a CC?
A: In NYC for moving violations you can use https://transact.dmv.ny.gov/pleadnpay. For NYC parking tickets you can use http://www.nyc.gov/html/dof/html/parking/parking.shtml. As far as "upstate" Courts go, most Courts will allow you to pay with visa or mastercard in person. Many Courts have a CC sheet which you can fill in and mail back, other Courts have a third party processor such as https://www.ncourt.com to accept cc payments. Call the Court to find out what options they have. No one (so far that I have seen) will take CCs over the phone.

Q: I received a camera ticket for a red light (3 points) or speeding (3-11 points) or a bus lane violation (2 points). Do traffic tickets issued from a camera add points to my license?
A: Camera Tickets never go on your license as they are issued against the car and not the driver. Therefor a camera ticket will not add points to your license or increase your insurance.

Q: If I push a ticket off for 18 months and then I am convicted, can I still be suspended by the DMV for having more than 11 points?
A: Pushing off a ticket will not help protect you from DMV actions. The reason is as follows: if you receive 2 tickets worth 6 points each on the same day, and you plead guilty to one of them on that same day and you push the second ticket off for 5 years, and then you plead guilty to that second ticket, the DMV computer will look at the 2 dates of violation and say "the motorist accumulated (more than) 11 points within an 18 month period" and issue a persistent violator suspension against you license.

Insurance companies work the other way around. They can only raise your premium after your date of conviction. Therefore in our example the insurance companies will increase your insurance after the first conviction appears on your record when they renew your policy (which will stay on your record for 3 years and then until the next January 1st) and then they will increase your rates again after the second ticket conviction shows up on your record when they renew your policy, (once again this second ticket will stay on the record for  3 years plus until the next January first. It follows that pleading/being found guilty in December saves 11 months of policy increase, and if there is a way to lock in a one year policy right before a conviction in December you can be looking at a car increase for only 2 years and 1 day, instead of 4 years minus one day.)

Travelers Insurance offers 1 year rates.
Geico is 6 months.

Traffic Ticket Lawyers:

State
New York Attorney Matisyahu Wolfberg http://www.speedingdefense.com/
New York Attorney Zev Goldstein www.zevgoldsteinlaw.com 845-356-7770
New York Attorney Benjamin Goldman https://www.benjamingoldmanlawoffice.com/ 212-203-3810
New Jersey and New York Attorney Adam H. Rosenblum www.ticketdefenselaw.com
New Jersey Attorney Leib Klein www.avvo.com/attorneys/08701-nj-leib-klein-1602182.html 732-987-7040

Great Upstate NY lawyer at very cheap prices. http://jaydrillings.net/

Not that many parking ticket lawyers!
Parking ticket Non Lawyer (NYC)
Cathy Mei She takes 50% to fight the parking or camera ticket
Office Number 212-349-4978
Email 329ticket@gmail.com
Fax 646-699-3630

Parking Expert non attorney (718) 384-5052

Non attorney runner http://www.myticketsnyc.com/

Non attorney runner http://www.wefighttickets.com/

10+ Counties in upstate NY have diversion programs, allowing you to dismiss the ticket for a fine and defensive driving class. Conditions and restrictions apply. Check the District Attorney's website for your county: Allegany, Broome, Cayuga, Chenango, Clinton, Franklin, Livingston, Orleans, Otsego, Tioga, and Wyoming.

This wiki is not legal advice, nor the advice of an attorney.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2920 on: May 25, 2017, 11:02:04 AM »
It finally showed up online.
Here is my question. Considering that I have no intention of going to court or hiring a lawyer, should I plead guilty now, or plead NG now, and delay a court date and then eventually change my plea to guilty and pay (if I can even do that)?
My inclination is to pay now. Am I making a mistake? Thanks!
Why not push off and pay later, especially worthwhile for insurance purposes

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2921 on: May 25, 2017, 11:06:52 AM »
Why not push off and pay later, especially worthwhile for insurance purposes
Not necessarily worthwhile to wait, you may as well get thru the first 3 years asap so if you get another ticket in 4 years from now you won't have both affecting your insurance together.
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2922 on: May 25, 2017, 02:25:17 PM »
Thanks everyone for your help. All done!

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2923 on: May 26, 2017, 09:43:39 AM »
I got an 1160a moving violation ticket for an improper right turn. The PO just told me that it's no points, I see online that it's 2 points. Who is right?
Is it something that a lawyer can fight?

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2924 on: May 26, 2017, 10:17:43 AM »
I got an 1160a moving violation ticket for an improper right turn. The PO just told me that it's no points, I see online that it's 2 points. Who is right?
Is it something that a lawyer can fight?
never believe the cop

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2925 on: May 26, 2017, 10:22:02 AM »
never believe the cop
+1, I had a cop once tell me a ticket was no points and he wrote the ticket for speeding 15 over ...  >:( >:(

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2926 on: May 26, 2017, 10:53:04 AM »
never believe the cop
I thought so but what's his point in lying? He didn't have to say anything about points, I didn't ask him.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2927 on: May 26, 2017, 12:03:17 PM »
I thought so but what's his point in lying? He didn't have to say anything about points, I didn't ask him.
so that you plead guilty instead of going to court

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2928 on: May 26, 2017, 04:23:53 PM »
so that you plead guilty instead of going to court
I thought so but what's his point in lying? He didn't have to say anything about points, I didn't ask him.
The police are allowed to lie to you. It helps them get confessions and raise their conviction rates.
I got an 1160a moving violation ticket for an improper right turn. The PO just told me that it's no points, I see online that it's 2 points. Who is right?
Is it something that a lawyer can fight?
You can anyways fight a ticket. Where did you receive the ticket, where is your license from, ex...

It finally showed up online.
Here is my question. Considering that I have no intention of going to court or hiring a lawyer, should I plead guilty now, or plead NG now, and delay a court date and then eventually change my plea to guilty and pay (if I can even do that)?
My inclination is to pay now. Am I making a mistake? Thanks!
The risk is forgetting about the ticket between now and a year from now, having suspension on your record and having the fines triple.

Thanks for the detailed reply. Are you an attorney?Really? The ticket says I have 15 days.Very timely! I just stuck it in my mailbox, so I took it back in.Which way?
I am a paralegal for an attorney.

The ticket has wording from an old law that is no longer in effect.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2929 on: May 26, 2017, 04:25:49 PM »
Thanks!

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2930 on: May 26, 2017, 06:20:22 PM »
“To avoid criticism say nothing, do nothing, be nothing.”


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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2931 on: June 02, 2017, 01:22:11 AM »
https://nypdsummons.com/mainpage/Home.aspx
If you had a pink dismissed there is a class action for you.

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« Reply #2932 on: June 02, 2017, 10:15:30 AM »
https://nypdsummons.com/mainpage/Home.aspx
If you had a pink dismissed there is a class action for you.
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2933 on: June 02, 2017, 10:47:46 AM »
https://nypdsummons.com/mainpage/Home.aspx
If you had a pink dismissed there is a class action for you.
please explain, if I had any moving violation dismissed during the time period I qualify?

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2934 on: June 02, 2017, 04:02:08 PM »
please explain, if I had any moving violation dismissed during the time period I qualify?
I just read it. And the quick answer is NO.

Basically this is for people who received a "Criminal Court Summons" for something different than what they did (eg is a pink ticket for a moving violation) and had it dismissed.

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This question is being asked ONLY for the purpose of determining payment eligibility.  According to the Court's class definition and the settlement agreement, individuals eligible to receive payment for their claims must: 1) have been issued a summons by the NYPD that was dismissed for facial insufficiency between May 25, 2007 and January 25, 2017; AND 2) have been issued a summons without probable cause to believe they committed an offense.

This means that if you were committing the violation for which you received the summons, you are EXCLUDED  and are NOT eligible for payment EVEN IF your summons was dismissed for being facially or legally insufficient.

Therefore, if your answer to Question Number 9 is YES, then you are declaring that you were committing the offense that you were stopped and received a summons for.  As a result, you WILL NOT receive payment and you should NOT submit a claim form.

The only way to be eligible to receive payment is if your answer to Question Number 9 is NO, which states that you were NOT committing the offense that you received a summons for.
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2935 on: June 02, 2017, 04:35:02 PM »
I just read it. And the quick answer is NO.

Basically this is for people who received a "Criminal Court Summons" for something different than what they did (eg is a pink ticket for a moving violation) and had it dismissed.
Parking tickets that were dismissed won't qualify?

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2937 on: June 06, 2017, 04:39:21 PM »
I have a NJ license, not commercial
 The ticket was issued in Staten Island
 There was no accident
 The ticket was for disobeying steady red light
 I want information on do it yourself

 My court date is tomorrow in Staten Island TVB

Can anyone give me advice?

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2938 on: June 06, 2017, 05:01:15 PM »
I got a ticket last week in Toledo, OH. Speeding 81 in a 60. Arraignment date was today. I paid online $181. Seems like paying is automatic guilty plea.

It's done already but should I have done this differently?

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2939 on: June 06, 2017, 07:20:24 PM »
https://nypdsummons.com/mainpage/Home.aspx
If you had a pink dismissed there is a class action for you.
Does this include a moving violation (stop sign)?