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This thread discusses speeding tickets and traffic tickets in the state of New York. For parking tickets go here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=15090.0 or here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=23665.msg1088489. For moving violations outside of New York, please start a new thread and add a link here.

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Please read this wiki first. I am not an attorney and this is not legal advice.

Q: Can I get a plea bargain in New York City?
A: No. Every single ticket goes to trial, guilty or not guilty, in New York City. (The 5 boroughs of NY, Kings, Queens, Bronx and Richmond.)

Q: How long does it take for points to fall off your New York State record/license/abstract?
A: For DMV persistent violation purposes 18 months from the date of offense regardless of the date of conviction. At 3 years after the date of conviction on the following January first the points are no longer visible on the driving record which insurance companies and traffic prosecutors look at. DMV always keeps a record of your conviction and if you get too many points over your lifetime you could get a "10 year" revocation, however those records are not visible to insurance companies.

Q: Does it pay to fight my NY ticket or should I just pay it?
A: In order to figure the true cost of a traffic ticket conviction (aside from figuring out the total fines and the effects on your record) you need to call up your insurance company and ask them 2 questions. 1. How much will my insurance go up over the next 4 years if I pay this ticket? 2. How much money in "good driver discounts" will I loss over the next 4 years and how much does this add up to?

The reason you need to ask these 2 questions separately is because the insurance companies "shield themselves" from the statutory requirement to not raise insurance rates for a first violation (or speeds up to 15 MPH) by granting "good driver discounts", and then taking away these good driver discounts when you get your first violation. Therefore the (technically) correct answer to the first question you ask them could be "your insurance will not be raised at all". Then when you ask them the second question the answer may be in the thousands of dollars over the next 4 years, depending on your insurance bracket.

Q: How can I find my New York ticket online? 
A: If it is New York City ticket you can find it at https://transact.dmv.ny.gov/pleadnpay if you received a ticket anywhere outside of NYC and anywhere upstate you must contact the individual Court by phone or mail. There is no way to find your ticket online. Google is not able to find most small Courts as it get confused with giving you the most popular courts and attorneys, therefore I suggest you look up your Court at at www.town-court.com.

Q: How can I get a copy of my NYS driving record/license/abstract?
A: You can buy it at the statutory minimum of $7 at https://my.dmv.ny.gov/crm

Q: Do NJ tickets show up on a regular non CDL NY license?
A: As long as you pay them, no they will not.

Q: Do NY tickets show up on NJ licenses?
A: Yes as a 2 point out of state conviction (most violations).

Q: Do NJ tickets show up on a NY license?
A: As long as you pay them, no. Exceptions 1. if you have a CDL the NJ conviction will record on your NY license. 2. DUI/DWI and criminal driving convictions from NJ do record on your NY license. 3. as stated above if you don't respond to the ticket the suspension will follow you to NY. In addition NJ issues warrants for failing to respond to traffic tickets. 4 If you are convicted of a high speed (90+ MPH, 100+ MPH) in NJ the Judge may suspend your NJ driving privileges. 

Q: Can I pay Court fines with a CC?
A: In NYC for moving violations you can use https://transact.dmv.ny.gov/pleadnpay. For NYC parking tickets you can use http://www.nyc.gov/html/dof/html/parking/parking.shtml. As far as "upstate" Courts go, most Courts will allow you to pay with visa or mastercard in person. Many Courts have a CC sheet which you can fill in and mail back, other Courts have a third party processor such as https://www.ncourt.com to accept cc payments. Call the Court to find out what options they have. No one (so far that I have seen) will take CCs over the phone.

Q: I received a camera ticket for a red light (3 points) or speeding (3-11 points) or a bus lane violation (2 points). Do traffic tickets issued from a camera add points to my license?
A: Camera Tickets never go on your license as they are issued against the car and not the driver. Therefor a camera ticket will not add points to your license or increase your insurance.

Q: If I push a ticket off for 18 months and then I am convicted, can I still be suspended by the DMV for having more than 11 points?
A: Pushing off a ticket will not help protect you from DMV actions. The reason is as follows: if you receive 2 tickets worth 6 points each on the same day, and you plead guilty to one of them on that same day and you push the second ticket off for 5 years, and then you plead guilty to that second ticket, the DMV computer will look at the 2 dates of violation and say "the motorist accumulated (more than) 11 points within an 18 month period" and issue a persistent violator suspension against you license.

Insurance companies work the other way around. They can only raise your premium after your date of conviction. Therefore in our example the insurance companies will increase your insurance after the first conviction appears on your record when they renew your policy (which will stay on your record for 3 years and then until the next January 1st) and then they will increase your rates again after the second ticket conviction shows up on your record when they renew your policy, (once again this second ticket will stay on the record for  3 years plus until the next January first. It follows that pleading/being found guilty in December saves 11 months of policy increase, and if there is a way to lock in a one year policy right before a conviction in December you can be looking at a car increase for only 2 years and 1 day, instead of 4 years minus one day.)

Travelers Insurance offers 1 year rates.
Geico is 6 months.

Traffic Ticket Lawyers:

State
New York Attorney Matisyahu Wolfberg http://www.speedingdefense.com/
New York Attorney Zev Goldstein www.zevgoldsteinlaw.com 845-356-7770
New York Attorney Benjamin Goldman https://www.benjamingoldmanlawoffice.com/ 212-203-3810
New Jersey and New York Attorney Adam H. Rosenblum www.ticketdefenselaw.com
New Jersey Attorney Leib Klein www.avvo.com/attorneys/08701-nj-leib-klein-1602182.html 732-987-7040

Great Upstate NY lawyer at very cheap prices. http://jaydrillings.net/

Not that many parking ticket lawyers!
Parking ticket Non Lawyer (NYC)
Cathy Mei She takes 50% to fight the parking or camera ticket
Office Number 212-349-4978
Email 329ticket@gmail.com
Fax 646-699-3630

Parking Expert non attorney (718) 384-5052

Non attorney runner http://www.myticketsnyc.com/

Non attorney runner http://www.wefighttickets.com/

10+ Counties in upstate NY have diversion programs, allowing you to dismiss the ticket for a fine and defensive driving class. Conditions and restrictions apply. Check the District Attorney's website for your county: Allegany, Broome, Cayuga, Chenango, Clinton, Franklin, Livingston, Orleans, Otsego, Tioga, and Wyoming.

This wiki is not legal advice, nor the advice of an attorney.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2940 on: June 06, 2017, 09:50:06 PM »
I have a NJ license, not commercial
 The ticket was issued in Staten Island
 There was no accident
 The ticket was for disobeying steady red light
 I want information on do it yourself

 My court date is tomorrow in Staten Island TVB

Can anyone give me advice?

The office needs to present a prime facie case. Your hope is that he leaves out enough detail that he has not testified to all the elements in the statute. Read the statute, and point out to the judge if the cop doesn't say an element.  http://codes.findlaw.com/ny/vehicle-and-traffic-law/vat-sect-1111.html

For instance a "clearly marked stop line" or "if none, then shall stop before entering the crosswalk" or "in the event there is no crosswalk, at the point nearest the intersecting roadway where the driver has a view of the approaching traffic"

Don't testify yourself. You might be filling in a detail that the officer left out and convicting yourself.

You are trying to do something very difficult. This is a hard court.

I got a ticket last week in Toledo, OH. Speeding 81 in a 60. Arraignment date was today. I paid online $181. Seems like paying is automatic guilty plea. It's done already but should I have done this differently?
Where is your license from?

please explain, if I had any moving violation dismissed during the time period I qualify?
If it was a "pink" moving violation yes, a "yellow" moving violation no. For instance reckless driving (VTL 1212) is a pink ticket. Speeding is a yellow.

Blocking the block could be orange for parking, yellow for VTL 1175 blocking the box or pink for disorderly conduct interfering with traffic.

Parking tickets that were dismissed won't qualify?
Not orange. Only Pink.
I just read it. And the quick answer is NO.  Basically this is for people who received a "Criminal Court Summons" for something different than what they did (eg is a pink ticket for a moving violation) and had it dismissed.

Lots of truck drivers get 6-8 pink tickets for "administrative violations" like a loud mufflers or broken headlight covers.

Does this include a moving violation (stop sign)?
Stop sign tickets are usually yellow.


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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2941 on: June 06, 2017, 09:53:57 PM »
Lots of truck drivers get 6-8 pink tickets for "administrative violations" like a loud mufflers or broken headlight covers.
 Stop sign tickets are usually yellow.
I've been put out of service (driving a truck) a good 5-6 times in the past six years with not a single pink ticket to show for it. if only.....

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2943 on: June 07, 2017, 02:03:06 AM »
I got a ticket last week in Toledo, OH. Speeding 81 in a 60. Arraignment date was today. I paid online $181. Seems like paying is automatic guilty plea.

It's done already but should I have done this differently?
Seems like you did it the simple way and the way most municipalities hope. By paying you probably plead guilty and got four points to show. Although I'm not familiar with the specifics of this case.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2944 on: June 07, 2017, 03:06:53 AM »
Seems like you did it the simple way and the way most municipalities hope. By paying you probably plead guilty and got four points to show. Although I'm not familiar with the specifics of this case.
You can usually open up the case again IME

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2945 on: June 07, 2017, 02:50:15 PM »
PA
I believe that PA does not record speeding convictions from other states. Call a PA attorney.

All those in the peanut gallery who have no experience in the state in question: please, the internet has enough inaccurate info.
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2946 on: June 07, 2017, 09:19:18 PM »


All those in the peanut gallery who have no experience in the state in question: please, the internet has enough inaccurate info.



Although I'm not familiar with the specifics of this case.


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Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2947 on: June 20, 2017, 08:19:56 PM »
Any suggestions for a lawyer upstate ny (buffalo) area. Got two speeding tickets one in genesse county (pembroke town court, village of Corfu) and one in Erie county (South Wales court)

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2948 on: June 22, 2017, 12:32:46 AM »
Any suggestions for a lawyer upstate ny (buffalo) area. Got two speeding tickets one in genesse county (pembroke town court, village of Corfu) and one in Erie county (South Wales court)
I'm sure @Hirshthg can help you find someone.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2949 on: June 22, 2017, 03:49:22 AM »
Got 2 Tickets in Chester NY
1. Improper seat belt ( wasn't across the chest )
2. 79MPH in a 65MPH zone.


Spoke to one of the advertised places and they claim that I will never will in Chester and I should just take the plea bargain ( 4 points )

Anyone with experience in Chester?

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2950 on: June 25, 2017, 01:51:58 PM »
Any suggestions for a lawyer upstate ny (buffalo) area. Got two speeding tickets one in genesse county (pembroke town court, village of Corfu) and one in Erie county (South Wales court)
Check the link on my DDF profile. Zev Goldstein handles those areas.
Got 2 Tickets in Chester NY
1. Improper seat belt ( wasn't across the chest )
2. 79MPH in a 65MPH zone.
Spoke to one of the advertised places and they claim that I will never will in Chester and I should just take the plea bargain ( 4 points ) Anyone with experience in Chester?
We do.

Was this a adult seat belt or a child? Sounds like an adult seat belt which is no points. So your deal would be to dismiss the 0 point charge and plead to the 4 point. Bad deal and an attorney can usually get better.

Even if its a 3 point child seat belt ticket, you are still pleading to more than half the points. Usually an attorney can do better in Orange County.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2951 on: June 26, 2017, 09:51:43 PM »
DW got a ticket in Lakewood for headlights being off. What is the best course of action, just pay it or try going to court?

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2952 on: June 28, 2017, 12:52:07 PM »
Got a bunch of tickets last week in Brooklyn (70th precinct) on my new Yamaha scooter that I just bought - I need some motorcycle specializing lawyers to speak with !!
1. No Insurance (biggest worry I have)
2.No registration
3. No inspection
4. No face shield/goggles (BS ticket in my opinion
5. No reflector for license plate
6. Weaving past a car
7. I cant even read what he wrote on the last one

I was so ignorant at the time that I did not know how bad it is to drive without insurance. Because I was in the middle of purchasing the bike I thought the previous owner still had insurance on it and I didn't really ride it much (just that one time I got caught) and now I'm reading online I can get suspended/revoked up to one year which I cant afford. The other issue was that the prior owner canceled the insurance 6 days before I bought the bike. So technically the bike wasn't insured under no one. I didn't know also that you can register/insure/inspect the same day and possibly show "proof" it was all legal on that day.

If anyone has experience in this kind of case or know a very good lawyer to consult with please post here or PM me. 

Unfortunately, I just had a suspension for one month earlier this year because of accumulation of points on my license. I am very worried for this suspension/revocation possibility. For a few stupid mistakes , I just dug a big hole.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2953 on: June 30, 2017, 12:01:11 PM »
DW got a ticket in Lakewood for headlights being off. What is the best course of action, just pay it or try going to court?
License from NY or NJ?

Got a bunch of tickets last week in Brooklyn (70th precinct) on my new Yamaha scooter that I just bought - I need some motorcycle specializing lawyers to speak with !!
1. No Insurance (biggest worry I have)
2.No registration
3. No inspection
4. No face shield/goggles (BS ticket in my opinion
5. No reflector for license plate
6. Weaving past a car
7. I cant even read what he wrote on the last one

I was so ignorant at the time that I did not know how bad it is to drive without insurance. Because I was in the middle of purchasing the bike I thought the previous owner still had insurance on it and I didn't really ride it much (just that one time I got caught) and now I'm reading online I can get suspended/revoked up to one year which I cant afford. The other issue was that the prior owner canceled the insurance 6 days before I bought the bike. So technically the bike wasn't insured under no one. I didn't know also that you can register/insure/inspect the same day and possibly show "proof" it was all legal on that day.

If anyone has experience in this kind of case or know a very good lawyer to consult with please post here or PM me. 

Unfortunately, I just had a suspension for one month earlier this year because of accumulation of points on my license. I am very worried for this suspension/revocation possibility. For a few stupid mistakes , I just dug a big hole.
Is there any question whether the bike is considered a motor vehicle? At trial an attorney would try to get the officer to admit he doesn't know whether it is properly classified as a motor vehicle. If you lose on the insurance issue you are revocated for a year and you are looking at a lot in fines.


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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2954 on: June 30, 2017, 04:03:06 PM »
I have a license from NYS
Residential
The ticket was issued in NYS
The ticket was filed in NYS Route 17/Town of Goshen
Ticket one: Failing to signal
I want information on both "do it yourself" & "hire an attorney"

Also is there points and is there a fine? I don't see it written anywhere on the ticket!

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2955 on: July 03, 2017, 06:45:21 AM »
DW got a ticket in Lakewood for headlights being off. What is the best course of action, just pay it or try going to court?
call mrs. shain she specializes in ur area

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2956 on: July 03, 2017, 10:40:36 AM »
AFAF he got a reckless driving ticket in Brooklyn, NY license. What are his options.

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« Reply #2957 on: July 04, 2017, 03:04:38 PM »
I have a license from NYS
Residential
The ticket was issued in NYS
The ticket was filed in NYS Route 17/Town of Goshen
Ticket one: Failing to signal
I want information on both "do it yourself" & "hire an attorney"
Also is there points and is there a fine? I don't see it written anywhere on the ticket!

Its 2 points and $100-$250 fine. You could plead it down to a parking ticket yourself if you can attend the court date. You could also hire an attorney to do the same thing for you. Check the wiki for names.

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« Reply #2958 on: July 04, 2017, 03:07:31 PM »
AFAF he got a reckless driving ticket in Brooklyn, NY license. What are his options.


Reckless driving is an unclassified misdemeanor in NY. Most attorneys can get them down to a non moving violation in one appearance. I haven't hear of defendants doing these pro se.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2959 on: July 04, 2017, 03:44:31 PM »
Its 2 points and $100-$250 fine. You could plead it down to a parking ticket yourself if you can attend the court date. You could also hire an attorney to do the same thing for you. Check the wiki for names.
There's no court date written on the ticket (nor is the information, which you provided, about the fine or pts)