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This thread discusses speeding tickets and traffic tickets in the state of New York. For parking tickets go here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=15090.0 or here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=23665.msg1088489. For moving violations outside of New York, please start a new thread and add a link here.

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Please read this wiki first. I am not an attorney and this is not legal advice.

Q: Can I get a plea bargain in New York City?
A: No. Every single ticket goes to trial, guilty or not guilty, in New York City. (The 5 boroughs of NY, Kings, Queens, Bronx and Richmond.)

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Q: How long does it take for points to fall off your New York State record/license/abstract?
A: For DMV persistent violation purposes 18 months from the date of offense regardless of the date of conviction. At 3 years after the date of conviction on the following January first the points are no longer visible on the driving record which insurance companies and traffic prosecutors look at. DMV always keeps a record of your conviction and if you get too many points over your lifetime you could get a "10 year" revocation, however those records are not visible to insurance companies.

Q: Does it pay to fight my NY ticket or should I just pay it?
A: In order to figure the true cost of a traffic ticket conviction (aside from figuring out the total fines and the effects on your record) you need to call up your insurance company and ask them 2 questions. 1. How much will my insurance go up over the next 4 years if I pay this ticket? 2. How much money in "good driver discounts" will I loss over the next 4 years and how much does this add up to?

The reason you need to ask these 2 questions separately is because the insurance companies "shield themselves" from the statutory requirement to not raise insurance rates for a first violation (or speeds up to 15 MPH) by granting "good driver discounts", and then taking away these good driver discounts when you get your first violation. Therefore the (technically) correct answer to the first question you ask them could be "your insurance will not be raised at all". Then when you ask them the second question the answer may be in the thousands of dollars over the next 4 years, depending on your insurance bracket.

Q: How can I find my New York ticket online? 
A: If it is New York City ticket you can find it at https://transact.dmv.ny.gov/pleadnpay if you received a ticket anywhere outside of NYC and anywhere upstate you must contact the individual Court by phone or mail. There is no way to find your ticket online. Google is not able to find most small Courts as it get confused with giving you the most popular courts and attorneys, therefore I suggest you look up your Court at at www.town-court.com.

Q: How can I get a copy of my NYS driving record/license/abstract?
A: You can buy it at the statutory minimum of $7 at https://my.dmv.ny.gov/crm

Q: Do NJ tickets show up on a regular non CDL NY license?
A: As long as you pay them, no they will not.

Q: Do NY tickets show up on NJ licenses?
A: Yes as a 2 point out of state conviction (most violations).

Q: Do NJ tickets show up on a NY license?
A: As long as you pay them, no. Exceptions 1. if you have a CDL the NJ conviction will record on your NY license. 2. DUI/DWI and criminal driving convictions from NJ do record on your NY license. 3. as stated above if you don't respond to the ticket the suspension will follow you to NY. In addition NJ issues warrants for failing to respond to traffic tickets. 4 If you are convicted of a high speed (90+ MPH, 100+ MPH) in NJ the Judge may suspend your NJ driving privileges. 

Q: Can I pay Court fines with a CC?
A: In NYC for moving violations you can use https://transact.dmv.ny.gov/pleadnpay. For NYC parking tickets you can use http://www.nyc.gov/html/dof/html/parking/parking.shtml. As far as "upstate" Courts go, most Courts will allow you to pay with visa or mastercard in person. Many Courts have a CC sheet which you can fill in and mail back, other Courts have a third party processor such as https://www.ncourt.com to accept cc payments. Call the Court to find out what options they have. No one (so far that I have seen) will take CCs over the phone.

Q: I received a camera ticket for a red light (3 points) or speeding (3-11 points) or a bus lane violation (2 points). Do traffic tickets issued from a camera add points to my license?
A: Camera Tickets never go on your license as they are issued against the car and not the driver. Therefor a camera ticket will not add points to your license or increase your insurance.

Q: If I push a ticket off for 18 months and then I am convicted, can I still be suspended by the DMV for having more than 11 points?
A: Pushing off a ticket will not help protect you from DMV actions. The reason is as follows: if you receive 2 tickets worth 6 points each on the same day, and you plead guilty to one of them on that same day and you push the second ticket off for 5 years, and then you plead guilty to that second ticket, the DMV computer will look at the 2 dates of violation and say "the motorist accumulated (more than) 11 points within an 18 month period" and issue a persistent violator suspension against you license.

Insurance companies work the other way around. They can only raise your premium after your date of conviction. Therefore in our example the insurance companies will increase your insurance after the first conviction appears on your record when they renew your policy (which will stay on your record for 3 years and then until the next January 1st) and then they will increase your rates again after the second ticket conviction shows up on your record when they renew your policy, (once again this second ticket will stay on the record for  3 years plus until the next January first. It follows that pleading/being found guilty in December saves 11 months of policy increase, and if there is a way to lock in a one year policy right before a conviction in December you can be looking at a car increase for only 2 years and 1 day, instead of 4 years minus one day.)

Travelers Insurance offers 1 year rates.
Geico is 6 months.

Traffic Ticket Lawyers:

State
New York Attorney Matisyahu Wolfberg http://www.speedingdefense.com/
New York Attorney Zev Goldstein www.zevgoldsteinlaw.com 845-356-7770
New Jersey Attorney Adam H. Rosenblum www.ticketdefenselaw.com
New Jersey Attorney Leib Klein www.avvo.com/attorneys/08701-nj-leib-klein-1602182.html 732-987-7040

Great Upstate NY lawyer at very cheap prices. http://jaydrillings.net/

Not that many parking ticket lawyers!
Parking ticket Non Lawyer (NYC)
Cathy Mei She takes 50% to fight the parking or camera ticket
Office Number 212-349-4978
Email 329ticket@gmail.com
Fax 646-699-3630

Parking Expert non attorney (718) 384-5052

Non attorney runner http://www.myticketsnyc.com/

Non attorney runner http://www.wefighttickets.com/

10 Counties in upstate NY have diversion programs, allowing you to dismiss the ticket for a fine and defensive driving class. Conditions and restrictions apply. Check the District Attorney's website for your county: Allegany, Broome, Cayuga, Chenango, Franklin, Livingston, Orleans, Otsego, Tioga, and Wyoming.

This wiki is not legal advice, or the advice of an attorney.
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2985 on: August 03, 2017, 08:05:46 PM »
The ticket was issued in this state: NYC
The ticket is returnable to in this Town/Village/City: Brooklyn South
I have a license from: NYS
Commercial/Residential: CDL
Ticket one: Tinted Glass 375 12AB
I want information on "do it yourself": I plead not guilty and thereby postponed it for a year. my plan of action is to ultimately (as far out as possible) change my plea to guilty and pay. although I"d like to have them wait for it.

Is there anything that I"m missing? as far as insurance rates / Driving record?

While we're on the topic: I was going to ask the cop if I"m legally required to comply to his request to roll up window for him to test but figured It"ll end up costing way more than this one ticket.  Any input @Hirshthg ?

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2986 on: August 04, 2017, 11:59:04 AM »
anyone ever get a ticket in NYC for an improper left turn

I was driving in the city and went around the first car into the center lane of a one-way street.

worth fighting or is it a sure loser in court?

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2987 on: August 05, 2017, 11:32:32 PM »
Not a parking ticket but I got it while I was parked
Got a ticket  for improper display of regstration sticker
My registration is expiring 8/9/17and I already had my new one expiring 8/2019 so I took of the original one and put the new one on the dashboard but didn't apply the sticker yet since I wanted to apply gogo and clean the glass before placing the new one. It was 100% visible
This was in NYC  4-08(j)(3)
got no responses there figured I'll cross bump
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2988 on: August 07, 2017, 07:51:16 PM »
The ticket was issued in this state: NY
The ticket is returnable to in this Town/Village/City: Shandaken
I have a license from: NY
Commercial/Residential: Residential
Ticket one: 1180B - 73 in a 55 zone
Accident?: No
I want both: Yes

Just got nailed by a speed trap at the bottom of a long downhill in the mountains. At least it was a local cop and not a state trooper. I have a clean record, and my goal is to get it down to a no-points non-moving violation. Is that realistic, and if so, can I get that outcome myself, or am I likely to need a lawyer? If a lawyer, anyone to recommend - Jay Drillings or someone else?

Also, the paper the cop gave me has a choice to plead guilty, not guilty, and to request a supporting deposition. Will it help me buy time to ask for the supporting deposition, or will that just annoy them and make them less likely to give me a good plea offer? Lastly, I'd prefer to shlep it out if possible; is this one of the upstate courts that's likely to be backed up and give me an appearance date months down the line? Thanks!

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2989 on: August 07, 2017, 11:48:50 PM »
got no responses there figured I'll cross bump
bump

Not a parking ticket but I got it while I was parked
Got a ticket  for improper display of regstration sticker
My registration is expiring 8/9/17and I already had my new one expiring 8/2019 so I took of the original one and put the new one on the dashboard but didn't apply the sticker yet since I wanted to apply gogo and clean the glass before placing the new one. It was 100% visible
This was in NYC  4-08(j)(3)
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2990 on: August 07, 2017, 11:59:05 PM »
bump

Not a parking ticket but I got it while I was parked
Got a ticket  for improper display of regstration sticker
My registration is expiring 8/9/17and I already had my new one expiring 8/2019 so I took of the original one and put the new one on the dashboard but didn't apply the sticker yet since I wanted to apply gogo and clean the glass before placing the new one. It was 100% visible
This was in NYC  4-08(j)(3)
Does it have the proper expiration date for the registration? That might be a way to win
What was the comment the meter maid wrote?

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2991 on: August 08, 2017, 12:08:57 AM »
The ticket was issued in this state: NY
The ticket is returnable to in this Town/Village/City: Shandaken
I have a license from: NY
Commercial/Residential: Residential
Ticket one: 1180B - 73 in a 55 zone
Accident?: No
I want both: Yes

Just got nailed by a speed trap at the bottom of a long downhill in the mountains. At least it was a local cop and not a state trooper. I have a clean record, and my goal is to get it down to a no-points non-moving violation. Is that realistic, and if so, can I get that outcome myself, or am I likely to need a lawyer? If a lawyer, anyone to recommend - Jay Drillings or someone else?

Also, the paper the cop gave me has a choice to plead guilty, not guilty, and to request a supporting deposition. Will it help me buy time to ask for the supporting deposition, or will that just annoy them and make them less likely to give me a good plea offer? Lastly, I'd prefer to shlep it out if possible; is this one of the upstate courts that's likely to be backed up and give me an appearance date months down the line? Thanks!

Always ask for the supporting deposition. A lot of times the cop won't even bother and when you show up to fight it, it'll get dismissed. You'll want to photocopy everything and bring it with you. The prosecutor might try to offer you a deal since he knows he's got nothing but you can just push it all the way. Also, don't send it in right away. It'll be less likely the cop will remember what happened.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2992 on: August 08, 2017, 03:56:42 AM »
Always ask for the supporting deposition. A lot of times the cop won't even bother and when you show up to fight it, it'll get dismissed. You'll want to photocopy everything and bring it with you. The prosecutor might try to offer you a deal since he knows he's got nothing but you can just push it all the way. Also, don't send it in right away. It'll be less likely the cop will remember what happened.
Just gonna add the obvious they're required to supply supporting disposition within X amount of days, if they don't ticket is dismissed.

Only drawback is they can sometimes not offer good plea bargain in retaliation.
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2993 on: August 08, 2017, 09:14:55 AM »
Does it have the proper expiration date for the registration? That might be a way to win
What was the comment the meter maid wrote?
so the original one that was no longer in the window is expiring 08/09/17 on the ticket it says 08/09/17  which is the expiration of the new registration (the one that was on the dash.

"Impropr dsply of reg stckr"  and in the comments it says "sticker on dash"
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2994 on: August 08, 2017, 09:53:53 AM »
First off, we are trying to change the NYC traffic court system. https://www.change.org/p/new-york-change-traffic-courts-in-new-york-city-nyc-tvb

Quote from: dsw193 link=topic=1206.msg1783487#msg1783487
date=1501805146
The ticket was issued in this state: NYC
The ticket is returnable to in this Town/Village/City: Brooklyn South
I have a license from: NYS
Commercial/Residential: CDL
Ticket one: Tinted Glass 375 12AB
I want information on "do it yourself": I plead not guilty and thereby postponed it for a year. my plan of action is to ultimately (as far out as possible) change my plea to guilty and pay. although I"d like to have them wait for it.

Is there anything that I"m missing? as far as insurance rates / Driving record?

While we're on the topic: I was going to ask the cop if I"m legally required to comply to his request to roll up window for him to test but figured It"ll end up costing way more than this one ticket.  Any input @Hirshthg ?
Tint tickets are equipment violations which do not affect your driving record. 

Delaying the $100 fine guves you the opportunity to forget about it and get suspended.

Would I have fought with the cop over rolling the window up? Once he saw the window he probably had probable cause for arrest and inspection of the window. Probably would have cost you more than that one ticket.

anyone ever get a ticket in NYC for an improper left turn

I was driving in the city and went around the first car into the center lane of a one-way street.

worth fighting or is it a sure loser in court?

Its two points. if you figjt it you may win.

Not a parking ticket but I got it while I was parked
Got a ticket  for improper display of regstration sticker
My registration is expiring 8/9/17and I already had my new one expiring 8/2019 so I took of the original one and put the new one on the dashboard but didn't apply the sticker yet since I wanted to apply gogo and clean the glass before placing the new one. It was 100% visible
This was in NYC  4-08(j)(3)
its a moving violation which will affect your record. Print out a copy of VTL 401 and the city code. I believe both say "display" not "stuck to windshield."

The ticket was issued in this state: NY
The ticket is returnable to in this Town/Village/City: Shandaken
I have a license from: NY
Commercial/Residential: Residential
Ticket one: 1180B - 73 in a 55 zone
Accident?: No
I want both: Yes

Just got nailed by a speed trap at the bottom of a long downhill in the mountains. At least it was a local cop and not a state trooper. I have a clean record, and my goal is to get it down to a no-points non-moving violation. Is that realistic, and if so, can I get that outcome myself, or am I likely to need a lawyer? If a lawyer, anyone to recommend - Jay Drillings or someone else?

Also, the paper the cop gave me has a choice to plead guilty, not guilty, and to request a supporting deposition. Will it help me buy time to ask for the supporting deposition, or will that just annoy them and make them less likely to give me a good plea offer? Lastly, I'd prefer to shlep it out if possible; is this one of the upstate courts that's likely to be backed up and give me an appearance date months down the line? Thanks!
Speeding ticket depositions are the one type of deposition the officers always write because almost no information is added. When officers don't answer the court order on time its because they don't know how to fill it out.

If you are doing youraelf, just plead not guilty and ask for a plea deal. Better to not get punished for asking for the document.

If you can't make it, all of the *attorneys* in the wiki are recommended.

Again, I would love to have better news for tickets in the city. Sign the petition, call your state senator and city counsel rep. NYC is the last TVB left on earth. Lets get rid of it entirely.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2995 on: August 08, 2017, 10:00:04 AM »
its a moving violation which will affect your record. Print out a copy of VTL 401 and the city code. I believe both say "display" not "stuck to windshield."
once again thank you so much for your time!
Do I have to go to court and can I do this online?
If I do have to court does it matter that the car isn't registered on my name?( It's on my mother's name)
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2996 on: August 08, 2017, 10:02:19 AM »
once again thank you so much for your time!
Do I have to go to court and can I do this online?
If I do have to court does it matter that the car isn't registered on my name?( It's on my mother's name)
If its a moving violation in the traffic violations bureau you need to do it in person.
The ticket is on you the driver, not the car. Its irrelevant who's car it was because you are responsible to check the sticker as the driver.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2997 on: August 08, 2017, 10:03:59 AM »
If its a moving violation in the traffic violations bureau you need to do it in person.
The ticket is on you the driver, not the car. Its irrelevant who's car it was because you are responsible to check the sticker as the driver.
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2998 on: August 08, 2017, 11:09:16 AM »
I got a ticket for holding my phone while on speaker and pushed off court date until next year- if I plea guilty then do the points on my license kick in effective the date I got the ticket or the date I plead guilty? and even better if I push off the court for 2 years and plea guilty will I get any points on my license as the 18 months passed since the date the ticket was issued?

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2999 on: August 08, 2017, 12:18:57 PM »
I got a ticket for holding my phone while on speaker and pushed off court date until next year- if I plea guilty then do the points on my license kick in effective the date I got the ticket or the date I plead guilty? and even better if I push off the court for 2 years and plea guilty will I get any points on my license as the 18 months passed since the date the ticket was issued?
Points kick in from the date of conviction.